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If your team is diverse enough, you can also usually just pick the 4 you'll need from seeing what they have too. 'Oh, half their team is weak to fairy. So I'll keep this one with Moonblast in the back.' Stuff like that. Egg moves on their team can still completely gently caress you over in that method though.
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Or, keep back your own guys. "Oh, they Weavile and Mamoswine. Guess I'm not using Garchomp."
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Apr 30, 2017 03:55
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I know entry hazards will destroy it very quickly, but I have always wanted a doubles team of 6 Greninja with U-Turn and Mat Block. One blocks, the other hits an opponent and switches out. Is my dream feasible, goons?
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Apr 30, 2017 09:12
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Eox posted:I know entry hazards will destroy it very quickly, but I have always wanted a doubles team of 6 Greninja with U-Turn and Mat Block. One blocks, the other hits an opponent and switches out. Is my dream feasible, goons?
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Apr 30, 2017 09:30
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Is anyone in the market for a perfect 6 IV Quirky or Impish Eevee? I'd love a shiny in return but it's not a requirement. Shoot me a PM if you're interested.
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Apr 30, 2017 11:07
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Mat block protects both pokemon iirc. Trick Room and literally any priority gently caress this over looking at it now.
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Apr 30, 2017 11:08
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nobody uses entry hazards in doubles, OP
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Apr 30, 2017 11:32
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After reading all the talk about bulky Porygon-2, I decided to make my own. Whoooooo else needs to get a trade evo done? We'll get two birds stoned at once! Or, if you prefer the MYSTERY BOX, you can send me a junk-mon and I'll send you back a different junk-mon with a prize attached! 0533 5340 6744 - ign is Maika. Come on, somebody's gotta be on right now.
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Improbable Lobster posted:Nah, Poison/Steel Garbodor that's hiding in a dumpster 
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Apr 30, 2017 17:33
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Is the damage calc really this slow and cumbersome? I have no idea how I should be using this to assume what EVs I want. How am I supposed to calculate my own when I don't know what my enemy's EVs would be?
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Dizz posted:Is the damage calc really this slow and cumbersome? I have no idea how I should be using this to assume what EVs I want. How am I supposed to calculate my own when I don't know what my enemy's EVs would be?
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Apr 30, 2017 20:53
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PMush Perfect posted:Generally speaking, just go for max in either "attacking stat and speed", "HP and attacking stat" or "HP and lower of Def/SpDef", depending on what the Pokemon is doing. Anything more specific than that is really for people who are hyper focused on very specific threats. Sounds good. fake edit: http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7battlespotdoubles-569260680
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Apr 30, 2017 20:57
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Dizz posted:Sounds good.  There's an exception for certain Pokemon who want a very specific HP stat, but that's usually to either get an extra Substitute out, or minimize Stealth Rock damage, and even then, it's very niche. So don't worry about it.
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Apr 30, 2017 21:06
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PMush Perfect posted:Generally speaking, just go for max in either "attacking stat and speed", "HP and attacking stat" or "HP and lower of Def/SpDef", depending on what the Pokemon is doing. Anything more specific than that is really for people who are hyper focused on very specific threats. Right. Like "I want my Tangrowth to take less than X% from max attack Mega Metagross' Ice Punch so I can switch in Y times after calculating for Stealth Rocks and 1 layer of Spikes, so I'll give them this specific defensive spread."
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Apr 30, 2017 21:12
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Well I mean it's fine and all if I wanna make sure Braviary survives a Z thunder from Koko in electric terrain, but what about every other single interaction? like a Helping Hand Explosion, Blizzards, Ice beams, Stone edge? Is it just a thing like "If I can survive this, I pray to god i can survive all that other stuff? Also I tried to work Braviary but it's not working much.
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Apr 30, 2017 21:41
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Dizz posted:Well I mean it's fine and all if I wanna make sure Braviary survives a Z thunder from Koko in electric terrain, but what about every other single interaction? like a Helping Hand Explosion, Blizzards, Ice beams, Stone edge? Is it just a thing like "If I can survive this, I pray to god i can survive all that other stuff? Braviary's hard to use. Aside from Defiant, everything it does, Swellow or Staraptor does better.
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Braviary, unfortunately, just isn't as good as Swellow or Staraptor. ^^ efb It has a chunky attack, but is just slow enough that it gets outrun by a lot of threats. Like Conversion-Z'd Porygon-Z. 
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A decent Staraptor set could be Choice Band Intimidate, Jolly, with Brave Bird, Close Combat, U-Turn, and Quick Attack. Smogon says Talonflame is better than Staraptor, but in doubles, I think that Intimidate shouldn't be underestimated.
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I was hoping to use it in Trick room and to counter intimidate users or people who who lower any stats like Icy Wind since that's been pretty common as well.
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PMush Perfect posted:A decent Staraptor set could be Choice Band Intimidate, Jolly, with Brave Bird, Close Combat, U-Turn, and Quick Attack. Smogon says Talonflame is better than Staraptor, but in doubles, I think that Intimidate shouldn't be underestimated. why would Jim Smogon say talonflame is better than staraptor
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does talonflame get a doubles niche out of fairy resist+tailwind
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There's no mention of Talonflame on the Sun/Moon page for Staraptor so I'm guessing it was the Gen6 page that said it was better. They could have got over the Gale Wings thing though with a new secret.
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http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7battlespotdoubles-569316147 I really need to find a replacement for Braviary. Also might just put Chomp in a more offensive role, He kinda just hits someone and they either take like 50% life or barely anything, and then he dies and goes to hell useless prick (Garchomp) @ Assault Vest Ability: Rough Skin Level: 50 EVs: 28 HP / 172 Atk / 4 Def / 52 SpD / 252 Spe Jolly Nature - Earthquake - Fire Fang - Poison Jab - Rock Slide Should I just switch to something else or go with the ultimate prick [Lando - T] and remove Arcanine for something else?
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Gale Wings only working when Talonflame's at full HP only makes sneaky pebbles all the more central to the metagame which suuuuucks. I think Garchomp's niche is primarily in singles -- maximum beef and maximum poke works wonders still for dealing with physical attackers. If you use Lando-T I will think less of you -- try Hitmontop instead. e: And Ursaring @ Flame Orb as a Braviary replacement. 
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Hilariously enough jolly Ursaring with 228 EV's under quick feet will outspeed all non scarf Garchomp, and can hit back hard with Ice Punch (not a guaranteed OHKO, but close against offensive Garchomps). Not quite a counter but funny and unexpected. Ice Punch in an ORAS tutor move if not playing on Showdown.
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PSWII60 posted:Hilariously enough jolly Ursaring with 228 EV's under quick feet will outspeed all non scarf Garchomp, and can hit back hard with Ice Punch (not a guaranteed OHKO, but close against offensive Garchomps). Not quite a counter but funny and unexpected. Ice Punch in an ORAS tutor move if not playing on Showdown. I figured if we're already using the Trick Room, may as well go slow and go with Guts / Flame Orb for nuclear attack. STAB Guts/Burn Facade has ridiculous BP.
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The only sensible thing would be to run a Toxic Orb Quick Feet Ursaring and a Flame Orb Guts Swellow and name them "Banjo" and "Kazooie"
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Bogart posted:Gale Wings only working when Talonflame's at full HP only makes sneaky pebbles all the more central to the metagame which suuuuucks. I sorta feel like it's the opposite - it's expected that your opponent will have rocks so people just don't use Talonflame so there's honestly less pressure to prioritize putting rocks out ASAP.
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Rich Uncle Chet posted:The only sensible thing would be to run a Toxic Orb Quick Feet Ursaring and a Flame Orb Guts Swellow and name them "Banjo" and "Kazooie" I love you for this. Thank you.
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Due to the Burn nerf, you only run Toxic Orb on pokemon that need to be poisoned.
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Crosspeice posted:Due to the Burn nerf, you only run Toxic Orb on pokemon that need to be poisoned.
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PSWII60 posted:I love you for this. Thank you. Gothitelle named Gruntilda Dusclops named Mumbo I dunno about the sixth, though.
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[very calmly, and not furious] mismagius would be gruntilda and marowak would be mumbo. and uh. vespiqueen would be honey b from tooie
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oddium posted:[very calmly, and not furious] mismagius would be gruntilda 
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May 1, 2017 11:37
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that is nowhere near as gruntildish as mismagius
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pokemon thread, i saw bw's soundtrack on sale but i kinda don't remember it. was it any good/worth buying the hard copy over? please provide examples for or against it
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oddium posted:[very calmly, and not furious] mismagius would be gruntilda and marowak would be mumbo. and uh. vespiqueen would be honey b from tooie Meloetta as Tooty
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Hammerite posted:Meloetta as Tooty Teddiursa
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The White Dragon posted:pokemon thread, i saw bw's soundtrack on sale but i kinda don't remember it. was it any good/worth buying the hard copy over? please provide examples for or against it I'm on phone but BW's soundtrack was pretty good . As a specific example, Route 10 is fantastic. I'd buy it if I saw it cheap but I buy a bunch of cheap OST CDs just to have them. For what it's worth, though you didn't mention it's an option, BW2's is probably the better value purchase if it comes up since it came with Emerald/Platinum tracks missing from the RS/DP OSTs too.
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That's the beautiful Gruntilda after she steals Tooty's beauty. Tooty is Trubbish in this scenario
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