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Majestic
Mar 19, 2004

Don't listen to us!

We're fuckwits!!

Balobam posted:

i think, and bear with me fellas

maybe, just maybe

OG... are good?

maybe, highest mmr ana isn't the worst player in the world

maybe, notail isnt actually a trashbag

or maybe they are unbeleivable trash who fluke their way to victories across 4 majors

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I mean it's not even questionable they're the best team to play the game to date, nobody else has managed that sort of consistency. I think given that only two players were constant across the two iterations of the team you can't really question Fly as the best captain in the world. I also think he's been really underrated as a player for a long time, even when he was offlane for secret he was very good (including on non-tidehunter heroes, despite the memes around him having a small hero pool). Strong case for Ana as the best mid in the world from 15 minutes onwards, though I have to say part of me would still like to see how it would look with Ana replaced by Miracle.

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Original_Z
Jun 14, 2005
Z so good
I think it was after Notail was mediocre with the old C9 when there were rumors among the pros that he would never be able to play on a T1 team again and that all of the old Fnatic players were finished? Boy do they have egg on their faces now!

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH
Just my dumbass opinion from watching far too many hours of Dota over all these years, often staying late at night watching tourneys at all hours, but I think the best mid player in the world right now is MidOne. That's why it annoys me to see the current Secret.

I mean, it's funny. But it's also unfortunate.

a witch
Jan 12, 2017

Wings / Random have disbanded.

https://mobile.twitter.com/KBBQDotA/status/858943815507464192

funmanguy
Apr 20, 2006

What time is it?

Well poo poo.

Also i realized that the current iteration of OG more closely resembles the original team secret lineup than the original OG lineup

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008
It sucks that Wings won't be back for TI to defend their title.

Quincy Smallvoice
Mar 18, 2006

Bitches leave
edit: and also this ^^^^^^

I wonder how much cash they managed to salvage from that team clusterfuck

Crell
Nov 4, 2008

Hot Leggy Blonde, you
got it goin' on.
https://twitter.com/TobiWanDOTA/status/859043309175672832

Finally event runners with some sense

Balobam
Apr 28, 2012


i wouldnt say event organisers throwing lumi on the casters desk have 'sense'

still get L 'suckysucky' D though

Balobam
Apr 28, 2012

"and heres crystal maiden with the supernova, oh shes using her battleborn to silence the enemy carry and oh no her mkb has run out and she's getting one shot repeatedly by the enemies treebeard" - translation: lina died to monkey king

Looke
Aug 2, 2013


Good news!

Martian Manfucker
Dec 27, 2012

misandry is real

I wonder who's gonna keep playing. faith_bian, and shadow would both do well on another team, I think.

Arkane
Dec 19, 2006

by R. Guyovich
Really great tournament, and that final series was amazing.

Only thing that could've made it better was that trashbag Brazilian team beating EG/Arteezy after dumpstering Secret/Puppey -- which came legit close to happening!

Kainser
Apr 27, 2010

O'er the sea from the north
there sails a ship
With the people of Hel
at the helm stands Loki
After the wolf
do wild men follow

Man, that sucks. Really hope Faith_Bian keeps playing, best player of 2016 in my opinion.

e; he actually spoke a bit of English at the summit so maybe he'll go to the west and we can see NP.Faith Bian

Centzon Totochtin
Jan 2, 2009

Martian Manfucker posted:

I wonder who's gonna keep playing. faith_bian, and shadow would both do well on another team, I think.

NP. Shadow

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008
I think SG deserves an invite to TI imo with wings/random disbanding.

E: If Valve does 6 invites again for TI, I think it should be:

OG
EG
VP
IG
SG
and then a tossup between VG J and Faceless imo

The REAL Goobusters fucked around with this message at 17:10 on May 1, 2017

Arzachel
May 12, 2012
As much as I like Faceless, I don't think they deserve a direct invite. No SEA direct invite but an extra qual slot seems like a better way to go.

Cerepol
Dec 2, 2011


Arzachel posted:

As much as I like Faceless, I don't think they deserve a direct invite.

Same.

Arkane posted:

Really great tournament, and that final series was amazing.

Only thing that could've made it better was that trashbag Brazilian team beating EG/Arteezy after dumpstering Secret/Puppey -- which came legit close to happening!

Sir please don't disrespect the Brazilian team. they make sex with 30 women at carnivale while you made this post!

cerious
Aug 18, 2010

:dukedog:
How does valve even do wildcards anymore with 6 regions. 4 is easy, 6 is weird.

Kainser
Apr 27, 2010

O'er the sea from the north
there sails a ship
With the people of Hel
at the helm stands Loki
After the wolf
do wild men follow

The REAL Goobusters posted:

I think SG deserves an invite to TI imo with wings/random disbanding.

E: If Valve does 6 invites again for TI, I think it should be:

OG
EG
VP
IG
SG
and then a tossup between VG J and Faceless imo

Remember that there are going to be more LANs before the invites which might change things a bit. Hope they'll do 6 invites again though, the more qualifier spots the better.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH
Huh. TI with no defending champions in any form. Interesting. There's a lot of amazing individual moments in that team, but 7.xx wrecked them and they did not want to adapt.

Hover your wings :smith:

e: Okay wait a minute the defending champions get a free trip to Seattle to stay in a swank hotel room and even if they bomb out dead last they get SOME money. Retiring now and not after TI is actually pretty stupid. It was $100,000 last year.

Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 18:31 on May 1, 2017

Majuju
Dec 30, 2006

I had a beer with Stephen Miller once and now I like him.
hey y'all, Sleeping Dogs Definitive Edition is apparently 80% off on Steam

Incoherence
May 22, 2004

POYO AND TEAR

cerious posted:

How does valve even do wildcards anymore with 6 regions. 4 is easy, 6 is weird.
Have the EU/CIS and NA/SA wildcards play each other first?

Taffer
Oct 15, 2010


The REAL Goobusters posted:

I think SG deserves an invite to TI imo with wings/random disbanding.

E: If Valve does 6 invites again for TI, I think it should be:

OG
EG
VP
IG
SG
and then a tossup between VG J and Faceless imo

They played well but not THAT well. I was rooting for them super hard because they were really fun new-guy underdogs but 5th-8th in a major isn't TI invite material by itself. They need to prove themselves at another tournament, maybe make top 3 before they deserve that. And if they can't get it they could probably fight their way through a qualifier. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing them play again.

Craptacular!
Jul 9, 2001

Fuck the DH
Apparently there's posts on Facebook CN or whatever that Shadow has health problems. Explains why they wouldn't take easy TI money.

( http://reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/68km4h/wings_is_dead_only_one_player_from_ti6_squad/dgzax4d )

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

Such a bummer about Wings, but can't say it was surprising news after the drama that erupted just prior to Kiev. I hope they get things sorted out and join some good teams next year.

Drunk Canuck
Jan 9, 2010

Robots ruin all the fun of a good adventure.

Maybe they'll pull an Alliance and reform the TI winning squad in 2 years :v:

a witch
Jan 12, 2017

https://mobile.twitter.com/Phillip_Aram/status/859538492337999872

Centzon Totochtin
Jan 2, 2009
e:wrong thread

Centzon Totochtin fucked around with this message at 01:23 on May 3, 2017

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008
Pieliedie just left team secret. yapzor is replacing him, Puppey is just poaching from ex No Diggity/Escape gaming now lol.

https://twitter.com/teamsecret/status/860123254081679363

Kainser
Apr 27, 2010

O'er the sea from the north
there sails a ship
With the people of Hel
at the helm stands Loki
After the wolf
do wild men follow

The REAL Goobusters posted:

Pieliedie just left team secret. yapzor is replacing him, Puppey is just poaching from ex No Diggity/Escape gaming now lol.

One step closer to Secret.Synderen, I approve.

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008
Holy poo poo FATA and pie have joined NP. It's a cloud 9 miracle lmao

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

The REAL Goobusters posted:

Holy poo poo FATA and pie have joined NP. It's a cloud 9 miracle lmao

Now they just need to kick MSS. Don't they already have bone7 as coach?

Quincy Smallvoice
Mar 18, 2006

Bitches leave
these are all great things to be happening

docLeder
Oct 27, 2004
Oh let the cloud9 begin again!

Kainser
Apr 27, 2010

O'er the sea from the north
there sails a ship
With the people of Hel
at the helm stands Loki
After the wolf
do wild men follow
I still really doubt the new NP will beat Digital Chaos in the NA qualifiers.

e; unless Abed is going back to SEA or something

Majuju
Dec 30, 2006

I had a beer with Stephen Miller once and now I like him.
747 and monkeysforever are off of CoL, apparently?

RisqueBarber
Jul 10, 2005

gently caress complexity

The REAL Goobusters
Apr 25, 2008

Majuju posted:

747 and monkeysforever are off of CoL, apparently?

Yeah this happened before the Kiev major. It was talked about a little bit on Reddit and twitter I guess.

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Zurreco
Dec 27, 2004

Cutty approves.
When is Sing coming out of retirement?

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