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fishmech posted:If you don't think there's plenty of people who actively support deregulation, reducing labor rights etc because they think they're not necessary, well. I congratulate you on your optimistic view of people, but warn you you're missing that a lot of people think those are pointless restrictions which they don't need because they did everything on their own because they're not lazy. You are saying that in response to a post where I literally say the exact words of quote:I'm not going to disagree that, yes, there are a lot of people who support economic liberalism as an ideology. It would be naïve to do otherwise.
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LemonDrizzle posted:Speaking as a black dude, no they wouldn't. You didn't post a Stalin 
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I can't wait to choose between a neolib shithead and a fascist.
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that survey is wack and massively outdated. Macron and Le Pen more popular than mélenchon with younger voters? Actual election results for the 18-24 age group: Mélenchon 31% Le Pen 20% Macron 18% Hamon 10% Fillon 9% Seems like younger voters aren't adverse to leftists with proper left wing economic program (for reminders the elections results were Macron 24, Le Pen 21, Mélenchon and Fillon both at 19)  Really the only electorate that Le Pen does really lovely at is very old people, who probably remember how great the good old france was (or probably because they've vote for the right wingers all their life and dont want to change) She's around 20% for most other group, except for the 30-60 age groups where she does around 30 so yeah the idea that younger french people are somehow all future fascists is kinda bs Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 07:09 on Apr 30, 2017 |
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I heard on the radio just now that Orban caved to the heat MEPs were throwing his way, and is going to undo his bad education law. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-39757962
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Deltasquid posted:I heard on the radio just now that Orban caved to the heat MEPs were throwing his way, and is going to undo his bad education law. What the hell, what could they have possibly have threatened him with to make him back down this easily.
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MiddleOne posted:What the hell, what could they have possibly have threatened him with to make him back down this easily. Hungary's receiving about 5.5% of its GDP in money from the EU, while only spending about 1% of its GDP on payments to the EU, at least as of 2013 or so.
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Kurtofan posted:so yeah the idea that younger french people are somehow all future fascists is kinda bs Not to retread well-trod territory, but the socio-economic factor seems a lot more relevant to who's voted for whom than age (although there is of course an overlap between the two).
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Deltasquid posted:I heard on the radio just now that Orban caved to the heat MEPs were throwing his way, and is going to undo his bad education law. Apparently Orban isn't backing down after all? Only a German-language source, sorry The article quotes Orban as saying that there was no agreement with the EPP and that Hungary will enter negotiations with the Commision over the education law.
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The Swiss intelligence service is diligently keeping its country safe from threats to the national interest by, uh, getting busted for spying on the German tax authorities and trying to hamper their investigations into German citizens who use Swiss banks to evade the righteous taxes of der vaterland: https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article164132038/Schweizer-Spion-soll-deutsche-Steuerfahnder-bespitzelt-haben.html
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LemonDrizzle posted:The Swiss intelligence service is diligently keeping its country safe from threats to the national interest by, uh, getting busted for spying on the German tax authorities and trying to hamper their investigations into German citizens who use Swiss banks to evade the righteous taxes of der vaterland: https://www.welt.de/politik/deutschland/article164132038/Schweizer-Spion-soll-deutsche-Steuerfahnder-bespitzelt-haben.html That's actually........ not surprising(if infuriating) if you think about it. A Dutch security expert also warned last week that GCHQ was exceptionally likely to spy on the Brexit negotiations and that they probably couldn't be stopped. Intelligence services act in their countries' economic interests and facilitating tax evasion is clearly of major economic interest to Switzerland.
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Pluskut Tukker posted:That's actually........ not surprising(if infuriating) if you think about it. A Dutch security expert also warned last week that GCHQ was exceptionally likely to spy on the Brexit negotiations and that they probably couldn't be stopped. Intelligence services act in their countries' economic interests and facilitating tax evasion is clearly of major economic interest to Switzerland.
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Whoever gave me this didn't know how to make red text. Now it just looks like a cool tankie avatar.
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So one week away. How is the election looking? Still a big La Pen loss?
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Deltasquid posted:
The Jacobins would not support 21st century neoliberal EU centrist policies.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:So one week away. How is the election looking? Still a big La Pen loss? Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Apr 30, 2017 |
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Le Pen desperatly begging for a new terrorist attack in Paris to get those numbers above 30%
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Toplowtech posted:Despite her really great week (great dynamism, better charisma than the weakling centrist, alliance with a rightwing nitwit), Le pen is still under 40% in polls (but hey polls, right?). Unless something really stupid happen (and it could happen, never believe otherwise), it looks like it's going to be a 37.5%-45% Lepen defeat/62.5%-55% Macron victory. Note that anything around 45% would be a great result for her image and give her greater chance to win in 2022. Something like 35% would be kind of a personal defeat and if her party do badly (or at least not that good) in the parliamentary election (like in 2002) it would be really bad for the cohesion of a party full of over-ambitious racists. I must repeat myself but for the 200th times, it's the parliamentary elections that matters. So what outcome do you think the parliamentaries have, given a 60-40 win for Macron? Cooperative and willing to ram through all kinds of ghoulish neoliberal stuff, or hostile and obstructionist?
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There haven't been any polls for the legislatives in like 6 months, but at the time the impression was that Republicans and Independent Right would be getting a majority. If that's true they can absolutely cut a grand bargain.
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Shibawanko posted:Whoever gave me this didn't know how to make red text. Now it just looks like a cool tankie avatar. Lmao, is that a pickelhaube? e: ok, it's the death of Peter Fechte, who tried to flee the GDR and was shot by border guards and i'm history illiterate GABA ghoul fucked around with this message at 23:29 on Apr 30, 2017 |
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icantfindaname posted:So what outcome do you think the parliamentaries have, given a 60-40 win for Macron? Cooperative and willing to ram through all kinds of ghoulish neoliberal stuff, or hostile and obstructionist? Toplowtech fucked around with this message at 08:30 on May 1, 2017 |
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https://twitter.com/EuropeElects/status/858943667347869696 Der zug hat doch bremsen (or something like that, my german's really loving horrible)
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wow i was looking at the results by department and i'm really sad but not surprised that Corsica votes so far to the right Marine Le Pen 28,62 François Fillon 25,68 Emmanuel Macron 17,87 Jean-Luc Mélenchon 13,84 Jean Lassalle 5,42 Benoît Hamon 3,49 Nicolas Dupont-Aignan 3,04 Lassalle did better than Hamon tho lol
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http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-39765575/macron-eu-must-reform-or-face-frexitquote:"I'm a pro-European, I defended constantly during this election the European idea and European policies because I believe it's extremely important for French people and for the place of our country in globalisation," Mr Macron, leader of the recently created En Marche! movement, told the BBC.
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His Divine Shadow posted:http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-europe-39765575/macron-eu-must-reform-or-face-frexit - François Hollande, 2012
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Kurtofan posted:Lassalle did better than Hamon tho lol
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Toplowtech posted:The famed Corsican shepherd voting block. oh poo poo that's probably the reason my uncle is a shepherd there and he kinda gives off lassalle vibes
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As a Moroccan black dude I can only wish for Le Pen to win.
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Ligur posted:As a Moroccan black dude I can only wish for Le Pen to win. We said we'd only roleplay in bed, Ligur dear.
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Ligur is Joao Bruno Putulukeso.
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LeoMarr posted:
Soon what? That graph shows Macron will absolutely crush Le Pen may 7th
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TheRat posted:Soon what? That graph shows Macron will absolutely crush Le Pen may 7th If the campaign were to last a few more months, Le Pen would overtake Macron eventually if the trend continued. Thankfully, the election will be over in a week.
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Looks like it's trending to stay under 40 to me. Don't see what you're looking at. jinx
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Torrannor posted:If the campaign were to last a few more months, Le Pen would overtake Macron eventually if the trend continued. Thankfully, the election will be over in a week. Post your map
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lost in postation posted:Not to retread well-trod territory, but the socio-economic factor seems a lot more relevant to who's voted for whom than age (although there is of course an overlap between the two). http://m.leparisien.fr/elections/pr...017-6902829.php quote:De son côté, Marine Le Pen, avec 21,3 % des voix dimanche dernier, est championne dans les communes situées au-delà de 15 km des centres d'emploi MLP killing in towns farther than 15km from major employment areas unpacked robinhood fucked around with this message at 21:04 on May 1, 2017 |
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Flowers For Algeria posted:Sums it all up quite well What's that first word?
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Nilbop posted:What's that first word? "plutôt" - the sentence means "Rather Rick & Morty than Emmanuel & Marine".
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