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The Current Era 2012 - Sato-san https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrFIc6RJKGU and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLX3OCmweO0 Winner: Dario Franchitti - Ganassi Racing - Dallara/Honda 2013 - The Fan Favorite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8v-X6S4wlU Winner: Tony Kanaan - KV Racing - Dallara/Chevy (worth watching all 20 laps if youve got the time) 2014 - The Yellow Car Party https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeREa0HUrXY Winner: Ryan Hunter-Reay - Andretti Autosport - Dallara/Honda 2015 - The Drive https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyYKUKXT520&t=10656s Winner: Juan Pablo Montoya - Team Penske - Dallara/Chevy (engine and aero) (really, just reset the timestamp and watch the whole drat race. Montoya's drive in this race is just incredible) 2016 - The Miracle, "Clutch and Coast!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7BZrwSLSZE Winner: Alexander Rossi - Andretti/Herta Autosport - Dallara/Honda (engine and aero)
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Paging IOC and Bentai http://www.racer.com/more/viewpoints/item/140089-miller-indycar-s-desert-debacle quote:If the IndyCar paddock could send a message to the few thousand souls who showed up at Phoenix International Raceway or the people trying to watch Saturday night's race on NBCSN, it would be brief and heartfelt:
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May 1, 2017 20:13
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Yeah it was a Bad Race, I even considered leaving early to try and beat traffic. The USAC silver crown race was more exciting; poo poo the USAC quarter-midget races held in the drat fan pavilion put on a better show too. 
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wicka posted:Didn't hear the atheist stuff but I thought his ex-wife (Brook?) was the reason he became religious. Brooke was the reason for the super Christian part and I do remember the video about being Christian and married. Though according to Gordon's book he is "spiritual" blending all sorts of teachings and stuff so yeah he is not atheist but not the Uber Christian that he was. Also wooo it's May!
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KingShibby posted:Paging IOC and Bentai Here's the thing. I can't see any other major series coming out and going "... we're sorry for that lovely race. You guys deserve better  "I was looking at RA tickets and they have garage access FOR FREE. The Xfinity races you have to pay for that poo poo, and it's Saturday only. Keep on keeping on, Indy.
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"Hey last year the leader couldn't pass lapped cars cause of all the dirty air better add more downforce"
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KingShibby posted:Paging IOC and Bentai A bad race at PIR still beats a good day in the office. dentist toy box posted:"Hey last year the leader couldn't pass lapped cars cause of all the dirty air better add more downforce" Read the article - they didn't actually make the changes: quote:And Ryan Hunter-Reay felt like it was a success. "We tested different downforce configurations while running together and we found a solution," the 2014 Indianapolis 500 winner said. That said, best parts of the article: quote:There is one year left on the Phoenix contract. I will always give you another chance, TK.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UT9JtACUZuI
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iospace posted:Here's the thing. I can't see any other major series coming out and going "... we're sorry for that lovely race. You guys deserve better That's everything at RA and another reason why that track rules
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May 1, 2017 21:19
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Do you maybe think powerful open wheel cars just aren't suited to the short ovals anymore? And by "anymore" I mean since at least the late 80s. Even the older races I've been watching (90s) the short ovals produced pretty bad racing it must be said.
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Human Grand Prix posted:Do you maybe think powerful open wheel cars just aren't suited to the short ovals anymore? And by "anymore" I mean since at least the late 80s. Even the older races I've been watching (90s) the short ovals produced pretty bad racing it must be said. Iowa has had some solid races. As has Milwaukee at some points. I mean we've seen some yawners at Texas, Pocono and Fontana in recent years. I think it's manageable but IndyCar proper just has to figure out packages for the different forms of oval racing (Short track >1, Speedway >1.5, Super Speedway >2.) e: IIRC? Phoenix during the diet CARY years (03-05) had Tony Kanaan driving like a freak and able to pass.
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I didn't think the racing was that much better back when PT and Emmo both lapped the entire field before trashing their cars in succession in '93.
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THe early 90s racing was mainly exciting because of the massive speed differentials between the top cars and backmarkers meaning lapped traffic was like constant.
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Fauxhawk Express posted:I didn't think the racing was that much better back when PT and Emmo both lapped the entire field before trashing their cars in succession in '93. And yet that race was a classic. Makes you think
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I know it's a dumbass troll argument, but I'm struggling to think of how to even solve the criticism that I've seen Fryer, Trackforum types bring up. (gently caress Crankshaft btw.) What I mean is the "INDY 500 IS THE ONLY BIG EVENT ON THE CALENDAR AND THUS IS HURTING INDYCAR" argument. When an event like Long Beach is brought up? The goal posts are moved to discuss television ratings and thus there is no pleasing them. They thing bring up how NASCAR has all these big events from a prestige, and television stand point. I don't understand what sort of event you could have to 'rival" the "500" on the calendar, and why this is supposedly a recent problem in dire need of fixing at this point. Why is this argument always made?
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The only event that rivals the Indy 500 for NASCAR is the Daytona 500. No other event has the prestige behind it on that schedule. It's telling that the Coke 600 has always been scheduled in the evening. Maybe it's because of another race that same day... Nah, couldn't be.
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May 2, 2017 03:54
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The 600 was in the day for years before they put lights in at Charlotte.
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iospace posted:The only event that rivals the Indy 500 for NASCAR is the Daytona 500. No other event has the prestige behind it on that schedule. I mean there's not much you can really do to replicate the Indy 500. (In terms of attracting both the casual and hardcore fan). CART tried it with the "US 500" going head to head and such. It didn't work. I mean the "Triple Crown" races are bad rear end, and I like them. But no one thinks of "Michigan", "Fontana", "Ontario" or "Pocono" in the same breathe as Indianapolis. Maybe if USAC//AAA had saved the original Vanderbilt Cup races? But that's about it. Even that wouldn't have the impact that the Indy 500 has on popular culture. Something it's had since the first race or so.
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It also may have a little to do with the fact that aside from the 500, winner's purses are loving abysmal. poo poo, winners in Super Formula get more prize money.
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Fauxhawk Express posted:It also may have a little to do with the fact that aside from the 500, winner's purses are loving abysmal. poo poo, winners in Super Formula get more prize money. This was true even during CART's glory days if "racing reference" is to be believed. Outside of winning the Indianapolis 500 or the National Championship? The only" big purse" races that CART had were the Marlboro Challenge and the Michigan 500 IIRC.
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FuzzySkinner posted:Why is this argument always made? Because my favorite form of motorsport is better than your favorite form of motorsport.
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I think the issue is, through the Split and the down times, the calendar turned over so much that there aren't as many "traditional" or "classic" races just because there hasn't been as much consistency. Long Beach is a traditional race and an important race in the calendar partially because it's been there now 30-plus years. There aren't as much races with such consistency on the calendar. Texas, possibly, but few other rounds are as prestigious in IndyCar as the 500 and Long Beach.
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Hell, it's called Indy car racing.
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Once again, Birdbrain demonstrates how firmly he and the rest of the "American" Open-Wheel Racing Eloi have their elbows on the pulse of racing world. The problem at Phoenix is the same as any track with a lap speed over 100 MPH: Wake turbulence off the car ahead makes it impossible for the car coming up behind to pass. Wiping out 1/4 of the field on Lap 1 doesn't help (see next). The problem with attendance is: There are no actual Americans in the series -- just a bunch of F1 Has-Beens and Never-Will-Bes. Nowhere was this more clearly shown than last year's 500, which was won by an "American" who has *zero* American racing credentials -- a third-string driver from a fourth-rate F1 team. And when those drivers can't even get through the first turn of a mile oval (Mr. Aleshin), or indeed the first lap of *every* race this season, well, one does start to question why the "American" series is overrun with F1 Has-Beens and Never-Will-Bes, while actual American Open-Wheel Racers can't get the time of day from the team owners. But then, IndyCART is repeating the same action of the Failed Racing Series, and expecting a different result. Just goes to show: Tony George didn't go far enough in purging the European cancer from the series -- and now "American" OPen-Wheel Racing is dying again. Go figure that, huh?
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Nice impression of a trackforum poster.
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I don't think nationalism has anything to do with it. But you do you I guess
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gret posted:Nice impression of a trackforum poster. Hahaha. That's insanely dead on too.
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gret posted:Nice impression of a trackforum poster. If i had to guess, I'm going to say thats a Racer post.
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I feel the venn diagram of people who think indy is not as good because f1 washouts and think f1 is the best in the world is a perfect circle.
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All that was missing was a shot at Roger Penske. It would have been the perfect post then.
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Ok so tomorrow will be the first time Alonso actually drives the car at IMS.quote:A fully produced live show will be televised online from 9:30 a.m.-noon, with an announcing team of 1969 Indianapolis 500 winner and 1978 Formula One World Champion Mario Andretti and NBC Sports Network's Verizon IndyCar Series talent Kevin Lee and Robin Miller. Coverage of the test will continue from 1-5 p.m. with a live stream without commentary. YouTube link to watch tomorrow Just the thought of Mario Andretti & Robin Miller commentating will be amazing
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Isn't the weather supposed to be pretty bad tomorrow? Like cold, wind, and possibly rain?
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Is it going to be Alonso only or are the other rookies/refreshers/one-offs invited like Harding Racing? Thats a comical amount of coverage for one car running intermittently at Indy. Speaking of testing coverage, feed is up for the test at Gateway today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTDGFrqVWME Cygni fucked around with this message at 17:29 on May 2, 2017 |
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It's great that all of these tests are being livestreamed. I don't remember having this much Indycar coverage in such a short span of time.
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John Andretti has Colon cancer. Seems like it's severe too...
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Hopefully next years aero will have a good balance for short oval, speedway, and RC/SC. I hope Gateway doesn't suffer like Phoenix did.
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Human Grand Prix posted:John Andretti has Colon cancer. Seems like it's severe too... Yeah... https://twitter.com/John_Andretti/status/859386307046408193 Put up a fight, John
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Remember to get your butthole scoped, friends.
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iospace posted:Yeah... Stage 4A.
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Hildebrand slapped the wall.
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