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Neddy Seagoon posted:It's a major cop-out, but SG-1 at least had the hand-wavy excuse of all the little human societies evolving from a common language base and culture. Even if out by 10,000 -odd years. Granted, most languages should've changed wildly among the individual planets in that time, but there's at least a semblance of logic as to why everyone they meet might speak English. That rings a bell but it still doesn't explain why in the beginning he had to try to figure out the language on every new planet they went to until it just sort of stopped at one point. Which is fine - because it wasn't particularly interesting anymore anyway.
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gently caress, English didn't even exist as far as it's modern form until around Shakespears time. Olde~ English might as well be another language
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powerful sex moves posted:That rings a bell but it still doesn't explain why in the beginning he had to try to figure out the language on every new planet they went to until it just sort of stopped at one point. Which is fine - because it wasn't particularly interesting anymore anyway. It's a cop-out, but one you can generally live with because it'd just bog down every goddamn episode otherwise.
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Apr 30, 2017 04:35
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Baronjutter posted:There's an episode where they all end up trapped in some huge industrial site on another planet and their lives become just maintaining the sprawling facility. Then it turns out they're not them, this site actually makes robot copies of people who visit to use for upkeep and their actual meat-selves gated home no problem. They then grapple with not being their "real" selves and actually robot clones who can never leave. Tin Man is the robot doubles episode, though your memory has mixed in some aspects of Beneath the Surface: the episode that Workforce completely ripped off, right down to the stoic black alien being dragged away shouting that it's all a lie.
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Apr 30, 2017 04:40
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Neddy Seagoon posted:It's a cop-out, but one you can generally live with because it'd just bog down every goddamn episode otherwise. And it meant they could revisit the idea and do it justice with the Unas episodes.
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Apr 30, 2017 04:41
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Moddington posted:Tin Man is the robot doubles episode, though your memory has mixed in some aspects of Beneath the Surface: the episode that Workforce completely ripped off, right down to the stoic black alien being dragged away shouting that it's all a lie. Oh hey, there was an SG-1 episode like this one. It also pre-dates Workforce's air date by about five months, but I don't think that's really long enough to wave fingers and declare rip-off.
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Apr 30, 2017 04:47
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Let's not let such petty things like facts get in the way of ribbing on Voyager.
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Apr 30, 2017 05:04
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Data has the ability to control his hair length. Yet he's never had a mullet. Live a little Data.
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Apr 30, 2017 05:58
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Neddy Seagoon posted:It's a major cop-out, but ... WE ALL can imagine a future of human beings escaping capitalism, but none of us know how to get there. But AT LEAST this giant fuckhead nerd with all his confused concepts of Misogyny and Racism didn't have a loving clue either.
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Apr 30, 2017 10:47
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revolther posted:This is the worst part AND the best part of Star Trek. The entirety of the Human species getting over all the lovely problems we have is completely washed away by the convenience of alien abundance machines. One thing I liked with Battlestar Galactica was they also had zero food or water issues due to near-perfect recycling technology... right up until it gets contaminated and then things are royally hosed for the entire fleet.
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Johnny Aztec posted:gently caress, English didn't even exist as far as it's modern form until around Shakespears time. I've slogged through all of shakespeares plays and even deigning to dally with motherfucking marlow, that poo poo is not modern english and we dont get that poo poo until the 18th century at least. middle english is a loving trip too. had to speak only in that for my undergrad chaucer class and could never get my mouth around half the words despite speaking both german and english.
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powerful sex moves posted:That rings a bell but it still doesn't explain why in the beginning he had to try to figure out the language on every new planet they went to until it just sort of stopped at one point. Which is fine - because it wasn't particularly interesting anymore anyway. I don't really remember any cultures they came across besides the Gould and Jaffa not speaking English. I think it was something from the movie that they tried to get rid of as quickly as they could, like changing how the Stargates work from having to figure out what symbols you dial based on the night sky of the planet you're on or something to what's basically a phone network.
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Apr 30, 2017 22:44
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Emergency command holograms should all be Jellico
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Mister Facetious posted:Emergency command holograms should all be Jellico How about a holographic Matt Decker? It'd be easy to program, just have it order the ship into a glorious suicide run against whatever it's up against.
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May 1, 2017 20:16
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I'm not really up on my TOS episodes.
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I don't think Starfleet officers would welcome a holograph jumping over them in the chain of command. Worse for the sole purpose of ordering them to their deaths. Now, Klingons being ordered to death by a holograph of Kahless… e: in the right hands you cloud do some real Jim Jones poo poo.
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May 1, 2017 21:36
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Automatic Slim posted:I don't think Starfleet officers would welcome a holograph jumping over them in the chain of command. Worse for the sole purpose of ordering them to their deaths. Look at it this way: the command crew are dead, the situation is hopeless. Do you want Harry Kim in command, or a suicidal hologram?
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May 1, 2017 22:26
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What if you warped over some holo-emitters to an enemy ship and trapped them in a nightmare zone
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Powered Descent posted:How about a holographic Matt Decker? that wouldn't work on any ship that has children on board
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Sunswipe posted:Look at it this way: the command crew are dead, the situation is hopeless. Do you want Harry Kim in command, or a suicidal hologram? At that point it wouldn't matter. The result would be the same.
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May 2, 2017 03:42
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Automatic Slim posted:At that point it wouldn't matter. The result would be the same. On the way there though you'd get far less mewling and whinging from the Hologram.
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May 2, 2017 03:56
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Sunswipe posted:Do you want Harry Kim in command, or a suicidal hologram? 
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shadow puppet of a posted:On the way there though you'd get far less mewling and whinging from the Hologram. Counterpoint: the hologram is a lot more likely to be distracted by actually getting laid.
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Powered Descent posted:Counterpoint: the hologram is a lot more likely to be distracted by actually getting laid. The real issue is would Commander Harry have more or less time for Kimtones concerts given the burden of command but also the authority to make them mandatory.
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May 2, 2017 04:10
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You sit in a chair too long in Star trek and it gains sentience, how long til all these holograms start talking and it turns into a cylon situation
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May 2, 2017 04:32
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Those dudes could just fly through space like those bad guys on Superman 2
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May 2, 2017 04:33
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Ensign Brooks is quite possibly Riva in drag 
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shadow puppet of a posted:On the way there though you'd get far less mewling and whinging from the Hologram. You did see The Doomsday Machine, right?
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criscodisco posted:You sit in a chair too long in Star trek and it gains sentience How many pages of fan fics have you written based on this premise?
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Neosapiens had more depth than cylons or The Doctor.
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shadow puppet of a posted:Ensign Brooks is quite possibly Riva in drag *in an extremely rich evans voice* oohh mmmyyy god!
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Oh, there's starships and phasers and the roulette wheel A fortune won and lost on ev'ry deal All you need's a greek chorus and a nerve of steel Riva Las Vegas, Riva Las Vegas Rivaaaaa Rivaaaaaaaa Las Vegaaaaaaaaaaaaas
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Why cookie Rocket posted:Oh, there's starships and phasers and the roulette wheel Sorry, I didn't hear that. Because I'm deaf. rear end in a top hat. -Reeva
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Human Error; The cold opening is Seven, sitting at a piano playing a classical piece with her hair down and her implants missing. That's it. Turns out she's been spending time on the holodeck, as practice socializing with the crew and good loving grief where to begin  . Do we start with the fact that the base premise of the episode reveals she's perfectly capable of being social with the crew, or that the writers were hoping no-one would notice they've just straight-up ripped off Hollow Pursuits with "Reg Barclay" crudely scribbled out and "Seven of Nine" written instead? It doesn't even work as a basic premise, because one of the basic tenants of life on Voyager is Holodeck Time is pretty much the only commodity bargained with due to the fact there's only something like two of them on the ship for 150-odd people and Seven apparently racked up about 49 hours in six days.Anyway, the basic gist of the episode is The B-Plot is that Voyager's accidentally wandered into a subspace weapon testing range, getting battered by shockwaves and trying to keep ahead of them as whomever's launching the missiles aren't answering their hails. Also the beacon that was supposed to warn them about not entering the area was deep in the firing range, presumably as a bit of dark humour on the creator's part. Seven's not keeping up with tracking the things due to loving Holo-Chakotay, and gets the ship battered about a bit. When Janeway asks about the Holodeck time, Seven waffles about a new gravometric array design, and Janeway's response that she'd "like to see it after this crisis" is just a big old "I'm gonna find out what you did and burn you for it" tone of voice. Unfortunately, the writers daren't allow character development even at the end of the series so Seven starts experiencing malfunctions and eventually collapses. Which means the Doctor gets a good look at her "Research" on the holodeck, Holo-Chakotay and all. Turns out her Cortical Node has failsafes to limit emotions as a way to mitigate Borg Drones going rogue and now they're being triggered. Which is a pretty high grade of bullshit considering rogue Drones have emoted just fine in every other episode they've occurred in. And still means Seven has chosen to act the way she has all this time. In the end, Seven goes back to working efficiently, disabling an incoming missile by just beaming the detonation mechanism out before it can hit Voyager, and decides to give it all up because it's clearly an inefficient waste of time Seriously, I'm fairly certain the writers have just checked the gently caress out for the end stretch of the series.
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Maybe they also wrote it so that the hamfisted Chakotay/Seven romance didn't come out of nowhere.
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:Neosapiens had more depth than cylons or The Doctor.
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revolther posted:Exosquad was kinda awesome as a kid. A little less awesome as an adult. Why's that?
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Hey, don't be assholes to deaf people and put some more Braille around here. -- Riva
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Hey, don't be assholes to deaf people and put some more Braille around here. Using LCARS must be annoying, what with having zero haptic feedback and all.
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