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https://www.nhl.com/news/michel-therrien-to-interview-for-panthers-coaching-job/c-289208326 Oh no be careful Ekblad! 
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Mind_Taker posted:Goalies add more wins/losses than any skater
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May 2, 2017 05:59
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Mind_Taker posted:Goalies add more wins/losses than any skater so the Hart winner would literally be the Vezina winner every year. They also have far more ice time to do it, but on the other hand you pay for fewer of them. Not even VORP is as simple as VORP.
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May 2, 2017 06:05
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Kale posted:https://www.nhl.com/news/michel-therrien-to-interview-for-panthers-coaching-job/c-289208326 Turn left Cats, nooooooooooooooo!!  e: lollll quote:"We're looking for a guy that's a good communicator, is a good teacher, a modern guy, a contemporary-type guy that can deal with these millennials and Generation Z, whatever that means. That's what we're looking for, somebody that has a little experience but who also is very knowledgeable about how to deal with young players because we have a young core." That guy is not Michel Therrien. yellowcar fucked around with this message at 06:16 on May 2, 2017 |
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May 2, 2017 06:13
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Kale posted:https://www.nhl.com/news/michel-therrien-to-interview-for-panthers-coaching-job/c-289208326 How long would it take for Therrien to convince them to trade Ekblad to some western team for an older more broken down version of Ekblad?
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May 2, 2017 06:19
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Don't you loving dare do that to Jagr. He deserves better.
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May 2, 2017 06:25
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goalies have only won the hart trophy seven times so i think the issue of hart voting becoming all goalies all the time is probably a good ways off, if it ever arrives. just remember the next time you read a spicy hot take from a guy working for a dying newspaper that he probably votes on the hart trophy (like villain of the hour rob rossi, who is in fact a PHWA member) and try to imagine how little of a poo poo that guy likely gives about any hypothetical WAR metric saying goalies rule and skaters drool
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May 2, 2017 06:28
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Furnaceface posted:How long would it take for Therrien to convince them to trade Ekblad to some western team for an older more broken down version of Ekblad? I honestly don't think the trade is Therrien's fault. Eller et al, sure, but not PK. PK was the result of Therrien saying "I think we need more stability on the blue line" and Bergevin getting a call from Nashville "hey we'll give you Shea if you give us PK" which resulted in 2 + -5 = 5.
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May 2, 2017 11:54
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If Bob was league average the Blue Jackets would have added roughly 32 goals against this past season. Got to think the difference between having Crosby/McDavid out there over an average forward is worth more than 32 goals Especially when you consider they can affect the game offensively as well as defensively A Typical Goon fucked around with this message at 13:10 on May 2, 2017 |
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May 2, 2017 12:21
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Pittsburgh doesn't replace Crosby with an average player though. They replace him with Malkin.
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May 2, 2017 13:12
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Aphrodite posted:Pittsburgh doesn't replace Crosby with an average player though. They replace him with Malkin. and then they replace Malkin with Bonino, it's simple trickle down hockeynomics
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May 2, 2017 13:33
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Aye Doc posted:and then they replace Malkin with Bonino, it's simple trickle down hockeynomics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_2Ky_nU2ys
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May 2, 2017 13:45
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Jackets are trying to sign something called Vladislav Gavrikov out of the KHL, who could conceivably push Ryan Murray out of the lineup: http://www.dispatch.com/sports/20170501/blue-jackets-want-to-add-russian-to-blue-line I remember when Ryan Murray was automatically the best defenseman on the team just by showing up. Aphrodite posted:Pittsburgh doesn't replace Crosby with an average player though. They replace him with Malkin. Aye Doc posted:and then they replace Malkin with Bonino, it's simple trickle down hockeynomics Believe that's called an "embarrassment of riches".
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May 2, 2017 14:22
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how the hell did neither EK nor burns get nominated? hurf durf lets always give the hart to a forward cause they're flashy
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May 2, 2017 14:27
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That's five CBJ nominations for hardware- Bob (Vezina, Hart), Torts (Adams), Werenski (Calder), Foligno (some NHL charity award).
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May 2, 2017 14:33
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CBJSprague24 posted:Jackets are trying to sign something called Vladislav Gavrikov out of the KHL, who could conceivably push Ryan Murray out of the lineup: Has Murray really fallen so far? I was never sold on him as the 2nd overall pick, but he's struck me as a serviceable bottom pairing guy at worst. Injuries have been his major downfall, but he's been a 20pt guy when healthy. Is there some serious deficiency to his game that he's at risk of being replaced by a 9 points in the KHL guy? He seems like a decent reclamation project for a rebuilding team like Vancouver. I'd happily flip that 2nd round pick we get for Torts back to you for him.
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May 2, 2017 14:43
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bewbies posted:how the hell did neither EK nor burns get nominated? hurf durf lets always give the hart to a forward cause they're flashy Burns is probably the favourite to win it if San Jose doesn't barf a fart down the stretch. As it stands, hard to fault the votes for Bobs and the two best players in the league. The other near miss who you could make a case for over Bobrovsky is Kucherov, who had a much better season than seems to have been recognized.
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May 2, 2017 14:46
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Hand Knit posted:The other near miss who you could make a case for over Bobrovsky is Kucherov, who had a much better season than seems to have been recognized. Not making the playoffs seems to be a huge black mark for Hart trophy voters, and I don't think that's completely unreasonable if you go by the "most valuable to their team" reading of the award (which most people don't). Plus Tampa were very good last year and took a giant step back, it's hard to say that anyone on that team deserves recognition as team MVP after that letdown of a season.
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May 2, 2017 14:49
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ThinkTank posted:Has Murray really fallen so far? I was never sold on him as the 2nd overall pick, but he's struck me as a serviceable bottom pairing guy at worst. Injuries have been his major downfall, but he's been a 20pt guy when healthy. Is there some serious deficiency to his game that he's at risk of being replaced by a 9 points in the KHL guy? He seems like a decent reclamation project for a rebuilding team like Vancouver. I'd happily flip that 2nd round pick we get for Torts back to you for him. It's not that Murray is bad, it's just that he's been pushed down the lineup by the additions of Jones, Werenski, and Nutivaara, an improved Savard, and a seemingly rejuvenated JMFJ. He seemed to play alright with Nutsack, but wasn't overly flashy. Get another decent defenseman to slot onto the third pair (Gavrikov, Gabriel Carlsson, Quincey did fine in Columbus but probably doesn't come back), and there suddenly isn't enough room at the Inn. Aaron Portzline implied after the CBJ were eliminated that there might be some health issues beyond the wrist injury which cost him his season, too. What that's supposed to mean, I still don't know.
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May 2, 2017 15:09
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A team that could use help defensively should give Columbus a call, maybe?
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May 2, 2017 15:12
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ThinkTank posted:Not making the playoffs seems to be a huge black mark for Hart trophy voters, and I don't think that's completely unreasonable if you go by the "most valuable to their team" reading of the award (which most people don't). Plus Tampa were very good last year and took a giant step back, it's hard to say that anyone on that team deserves recognition as team MVP after that letdown of a season. They also recognized Hedman for the Norris, which I think would take some shine off Kucherov from the voters perspective. Hand Knit posted:Burns is probably the favourite to win it if San Jose doesn't barf a fart down the stretch. As it stands, hard to fault the votes for Bobs and the two best players in the league.
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May 2, 2017 15:14
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Yeah, freshest in the minds of the voters would be the last 20 games of the season where Burns had 2 goals and 8 assists going -4 while the Sharks went 9-11-0 Over that same period, Mcdavid getting 10 goals and 21 assits going +9 while the Oilers went 14-5-1 In the last 20 games, Mcdavid scored 31% of his season points total, Burns scored 14.4% of his points total. Burns went cold and his team suffered.
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May 2, 2017 15:33
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Powershift posted:Yeah, freshest in the minds of the voters would be the last 20 games of the season where Burns had 2 goals and 8 assists going -4 while the Sharks went 9-11-0 Ironically that should help Burns' case more not less since the Sharks were a hot puddle of poo poo when he wasn't playing like a Hart candidate.
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May 2, 2017 15:59
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Ginette Reno posted:a hot puddle of poo poo Seriously man, less gravy.
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edit: wrong thread
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May 2, 2017 16:01
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Aphrodite posted:Seriously man, less gravy. Why do you think Pens fans always have to beat the traffic?
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Ginette Reno posted:Ironically that should help Burns' case more not less since the Sharks were a hot puddle of poo poo when he wasn't playing like a Hart candidate. You would think this would help Bob's case. A few goons felt CBJ still would've made the playoffs with adequate goaltending, but they don't have 50 wins without  in net playing as he did most of the season.
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May 2, 2017 16:04
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Ginette Reno posted:Why do you think Pens fans always have to beat the traffic? 
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Ginette Reno posted:Ironically that should help Burns' case more not less since the Sharks were a hot puddle of poo poo when he wasn't playing like a Hart candidate. But he stopped playing like a Hart candidate, so he isn't one. that's how it works.
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May 2, 2017 16:09
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Are these the facilities at PPG Paints Arena? Because all those empties late in regulation make sense now.
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May 2, 2017 16:10
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Powershift posted:But he stopped playing like a Hart candidate, so he isn't one. The Hart candidates they chose were fine but the season is about 82 games not the last twenty. Burns still had 76 points which is fantastic.
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Ginette Reno posted:The Hart candidates they chose were fine but the season is about 82 games not the last twenty. Burns still had 76 points which is fantastic. Yeah, he had a fantastic season overall, but what's freshest in memory is him and his team being a total drag.
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May 2, 2017 16:25
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N: Zaitsev gets 7 years/4.5m per. V: Somewhere, Don Cherry is furious.
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May 2, 2017 18:10
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Hmm, not a huge fan of that deal
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May 2, 2017 18:09
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The Leafs also signed Ben "literally worst centre to play in the league last year" Smith to a one-year deal, if anyone wants to chime in and try to tell me Lou isn't terrible.
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May 2, 2017 18:16
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That seems like a ton of term to give to Zaitsev
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May 2, 2017 18:20
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I'm really disappointed in re-signing Ben Smith, for the stated above reasons. That man should not be playing in the NHL.
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May 2, 2017 18:35
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Drunk Canuck posted:I'm really disappointed in re-signing Ben Smith, for the stated above reasons. That man should not be playing in the NHL. I was super disappointed in him this year because he doubled his career penalty minutes from 4 to 8 in 237 games.
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ThinkTank posted:I was super disappointed in him this year because he doubled his career penalty minutes from 4 to 8 in 237 games. locker room cancer, right there
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Is it possible Lou re-signed Smith with the idea of leaving him unprotected?
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