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I was expecting Jimmy to throw his hands in the air and say gently caress THIS gently caress YOUUUUU when Chuck amended the cost of the cassette tape to the damage amount.
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timp posted:Mike's Voice I got into Breaking Bad literally two weeks before it ended so I wasn't in the TVIV threads until then. What is this?
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Karmine posted:I got into Breaking Bad literally two weeks before it ended so I wasn't in the TVIV threads until then. What is this? Scene in the desert that some people say sounds like Mike dubbed the last part: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0ygSPO8aXk
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Mr. Gibbycrumbles posted:You are objectively, scientifically provably wrong. The Mike/Gus/Cartel stuff is the best part of this show by far. Mike scenes are good, so far Gus scenes are really really bad. I'd have rather watched 10 minutes of Mike fixing Chuck's door than the scene where Gus has a meeting with his fast food employees
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I have a feeling that Gus' story with Hector will wrap up within this season and he won't be back much in seasons 4 and beyond (or at least if he's around as Mike's employer, he won't be a major plot focus). I do hope that the plan he set in motion last episode eventually culminates with Hector being paralysed. I don't care how implausible the plan will be, I want that Saw-esque "this was my plan from day one" scene. Maybe with Gus standing over Hector's hospital bed as he sleeps. "I'll let you live in this pathetic shell, for as long as it entertains me." Also I'm super happy we got to see Nacho this episode, even if it was just for one awesome "don't go there, bro" moment. I'd be cool to see the Mike and Jimmy story's clash in a big way at the end of this seasons too. I know Gus and Saul aren't super acquainted but there's no reason Gus' plan and Mike's involvement can't play a part in whatever eventually happens with Chuck.
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UZR IS BULLSHIT posted:Mike scenes are good, so far Gus scenes are really really bad. I'd have rather watched 10 minutes of Mike fixing Chuck's door than the scene where Gus has a meeting with his fast food employees Your personal preferences (to which you're entitled!) notwithstanding, the point of that scene was to show/remind the audience what a mastermind Gus is at not only hiding his criminal enterprise but also to manipulate his civilian employees' loyalty. The humility of admitting he paid them off in Michoacan, the rah rah America stuff, the anger at how the cartel intimidated his customers and threatened his employees. It was great.
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May 2, 2017 16:10
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we need more commercials http://i.imgur.com/ns9tpdx.gifv
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May 2, 2017 16:29
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As soon as the opening scene started I knew that was Don Eladio in his pool, and I was so happy. I love Don Eladio, he was the best supporting BB character by far, I love how he enunciates his words and his scarily happy demeanor and cheesy huge grin, can't get enough Don Eladio
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Karmine posted:Your personal preferences (to which you're entitled!) notwithstanding, the point of that scene was to show/remind the audience what a mastermind Gus is at not only hiding his criminal enterprise but also to manipulate his civilian employees' loyalty. The humility of admitting he paid them off in Michoacan, the rah rah America stuff, the anger at how the cartel intimidated his customers and threatened his employees. It was great.
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Aardark posted:Was it just manipulation? I thought he was actually angry about their coming and threatening his employees. It can be two things.
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Anyway, I saw the Promo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKBl1lJxXEI It looks like while Jimmy is showing that Chuck is a danger to himself, I think his start is to throw himself to the mercy of the Board and Chuck, Chuck will try to twist the knife but the board won't go along with him. This will cause a breakdown, perhaps around the same time Hector has his paralysis.
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Karmine posted:Your personal preferences (to which you're entitled!) notwithstanding, the point of that scene was to show/remind the audience what a mastermind Gus is at not only hiding his criminal enterprise but also to manipulate his civilian employees' loyalty. The humility of admitting he paid them off in Michoacan, the rah rah America stuff, the anger at how the cartel intimidated his customers and threatened his employees. It was great. I got that, but I just didn't care. I think the problem with this episode for me is that we already know how Gus got into this situation with Don Eladio and Hector Salamanca, and we already know how it ends. At this point in time they're in a stalemate that has little room for plot or character development. Gus was a great antagonist for Walter, and could be a great catalyst for Mike's development, but I hope they keep any further interaction between Gus and the cartel to the C plot with only a minor scene or two each episode.
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notthegoatseguy posted:Jimmy even mentions that Chuck mentored or helped get people onto the Bar commission so I find it really hard to believe that they're going to be that enamored by Jimmy. And I don't think they'll be surprised about Chuck's illness, though they may not know the extent to what he does to live and get by. I really don't think Jimmy is just going to be able to charm the pants off of the disciplinary board. Well, the thing is, no matter what the folks at the Bar actually think and no matter how they feel about the individual brothers, we already know that Jimmy sees things the way you describe. He's thinking it's not going to be a fair hearing because he's going up against Chuck and his cronies. And he'll act accordingly.
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Aardark posted:Was it just manipulation? I thought he was actually angry about their coming and threatening his employees. I'd bet he was! And if he can use that for the benefit of his subterfuge so much the better.
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NowonSA posted:I didn't think Kim could've been recording them there. I guess that makes more sense than what I thought, which was that Jimmy was pretty sure he knew where the original tape was being held (based on the note that Mike found) and Chuck saying "Yeah that was the duplicate, the original is under lock and key" confirmed it for him and now they're going to go steal it. Hard to imagine Kim being on board for that. Cnut the Great posted:So Gus giving that speech at the fire station is definitely more foreshadowing that something big is going to happen with fire at the end of the season, right? Karmine posted:Why was it odd that there were fire trucks at a fire station in a scene where Gus was talking to a bunch of firefighters? Misremembered the scene thought it was just the DEA. Nude fucked around with this message at 17:39 on May 2, 2017 |
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Nude posted:Could be. But I can see how it could of been just a nod establishing how he became partners/close with the DEA and the community. There being firetrucks was a little odd though. Why was it odd that there were fire trucks at a fire station in a scene where Gus was talking to a bunch of firefighters?
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Longbaugh01 posted:So how'd that metal detector issue you guys talked about for pages end up? Just say it bro, just say it. Say what you really feel. They emulated the realest example of a typical prosecutor that you would find in the system and I have to say this show gets it right on the nose with their characters.
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What if everyone on the board secretly hates Chuck, and the though that he made their careers is a misnomer because every lawyer had to put up with his bullshit to make it in that town?
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The Human Crouton posted:What if everyone on the board secretly hates Chuck, and the though that he made their careers is a misnomer because every lawyer had to put up with his bullshit to make it in that town? 
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R-Type posted:Just say it bro, just say it. Say what you really feel. you seem dumb as poo poo
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Karmine posted:I'd bet he was! And if he can use that for the benefit of his subterfuge so much the better. That's why I love watching Gus so much. We know why he hates Hector and wants revenge, but overall he's unique among our drug kingpins since he seems to really care about and take pride in his legitimate operation too. To me he comes off like he'd prefer to have Los Pollos Hermanos, his hermano alive and well, and to never have ended up slinging meth. I want to see more of how he thinks. He didn't actually lie to his employees, did he?
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DarklyDreaming posted:Ansel Adams of covert photography But Ansel Adams didn't shoot in color. SUSPENSION OF DISBELIEF RUINED. GobiasIndustries posted:Yeah but said ultralawyer isn't going to bring the whole firm against Jimmy, it'll just be him and probably Hamlin, then Kim will play the tape that I think we all assume she recorded, Jimmy's got photos of Chucks house basically being an insane asylum run by the patients, and just about all of Chucks professional credibility will be shot. Bringing the whole firm would probably help the "my crazy brother is out to get me" defense" Edgar Allen Ho posted:
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:He didn't actually lie to his employees, did he? Well they didn't show up asking for money, he didn't say no to them and they didn't leave defeated. The first part of the story might have been true though. maskenfreiheit posted:You should have gone to SXSW Since that was a promotional thing you just know they sold some generic rear end chicken, definitely not up to Gus' standards. It was probably just farmed out to some other local chicken place. stev fucked around with this message at 18:00 on May 2, 2017 |
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Also, frankly I'm not buying the "my brother tricked me into committing a crime" defense. I think that the bar association would most likely take the view that entrapment has a very specific legal meaning, and "my brother trolled me into breaking into his house" would not hold water. Only weirdos like Ted Bundy do bad things for the sake of doing bad things - every criminal has a "reason". Now, I will concede that perhaps they will decline to revoke his law liscense (or perhaps only suspend it, pending successful completion of probation). I think full revocation is out of the question, since it's pretty well established that Saul is not an assumed identity - the bar association knows he's Jimmy McGill. So I'll say that Jimmy either beats the rap or gets a temporary suspension, and Chuck... chuck will at best have his law license revoked, at worst be forced into a mental facility or wig out, hit his head, and die. Steve2911 posted:Well they didn't show up asking for money, he didn't say no to them and they didn't leave defeated. The first part of the story might have been true though. My sources indicate it was very good. Not perfect, but on par with what craft services serves to finicky actors. maskenfreiheit fucked around with this message at 18:07 on May 2, 2017 |
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re: promo Jimmy is sitting in the waiting room of a veterinarian's office. Was Chuck's ex a vet?
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:To me he comes off like he'd prefer to have Los Pollos Hermanos, his hermano alive and well, and to never have ended up slinging meth. I want to see more of how he thinks. I'd be cool with some flashbacks to Gus and Max's progression from "drat this is some good rear end chicken let's sell it" to "we should try making methamphetamine" to "this is some good rear end methamphetamine let's concoct a plot to manipulate Don Eladio into meeting us oh whoops you died and I hate Hector forever." e: clown shoes posted:re: promo There's a vet who moonlights as a black market kinda guy. He got Mike the drugs he sprinkled on the truck last week. Karmine fucked around with this message at 18:12 on May 2, 2017 |
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Karmine posted:There's a vet who moonlights as a black market kinda guy. He got Mike the drugs he sprinkled on the truck last week. IIRC that was a doctor. The vet got him the second tracker.
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R-Type posted:Just say it bro, just say it. Say what you really feel I did say what I really felt you dolt. There was no hidden agenda, or as in your case, a transparent one (or just a drat gimmick) in loving TV/IV posts.
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Steve2911 posted:IIRC that was a doctor. The vet got him the second tracker. You're right! My mistake.
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Steve2911 posted:IIRC that was a doctor. The vet got him the second tracker. Am I the only one to notice he was THE doctor? The one that takes care of them after the Eladio fallout in Mexico?
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Justin Credible posted:Am I the only one to notice he was THE doctor? The one that takes care of them after the Eladio fallout in Mexico? No.
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maskenfreiheit posted:Also, frankly I'm not buying the "my brother tricked me into committing a crime" defense.
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Justin Credible posted:Am I the only one to notice he was THE doctor? The one that takes care of them after the Eladio fallout in Mexico? I suspect that the numerous other people who posted about might have caught on to that little detail
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I don't know much about doctoring documents and whatnot, but would the bar association not be able to tell whether there was any fakery? I'm sure there are experts in the field that would spot it in a heartbeat. Not that they'd want to go to that sort of effort, but still.
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Longbaugh01 posted:Yeah it was a firehouse Edgar Allen Ho, not a police station. And Cnut the Great, according to Sepinwall the significance might just be that that's apparently the very same firehouse that Walt brings the baby to in Ozymandias. I imagine there's plenty of significance in the juxtaposition of Gus talking to a bunch of firemen and the show lingering for a moment on the gas lantern sitting on the newspapers. Jimmy and Kimmy's strategy goes off perfectly, Chuck's entire story is discredited, and Jimmy keeps his law license. Chuck loses his mind (or maybe even has disbarment proceedings brought against him as a result of what comes out in the hearing) and goes home and in his distraught state he knocks over a lantern and burns down his house. Maybe he's committed as a danger to himself, or maybe he actually dies in the fire. Either one pushes Jimmy closer to working as Saul. Karmine posted:At this point the only main character from BrBa who it makes any sense to introduce would be Hank and as much as I'd like to see him, I think that would make it feel just a little TOO much like Breaking Bad when they've got a really excellent show in its own right. In a future scene with Jimmy at the municipal court, we glimpse in the background Marie Schrader, who is there with her husband pleading for clemency after the first time she's caught shoplifting.
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I don't know how much more ground there is to cover in the Gus/Hector rivalry, but I'm kinda hoping the back half of the season gives us more Nacho. I think it's pretty likely he's doing the double agent thing, serving as Gus' man inside Hector's operation-- it's the simplest explanation for how Gus caught on to Mike's activities in the first place.
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It's a disciplinary hearing of a professional (i.e., non-governmental) association, not a court of law. Chuck says that their rules of 'evidence' are much more lenient than a court's. The hearing's purpose is to decide what if any sanction the board will recommend to the State Supreme Court to impose on Jimmy. The criminal charges have been dealt with already. Going to the disciplinary hearing is part of his punishment for the B&E and other charges. So Jimmy's sole objective is to plead mitigation and keep his license. But if Chuck loses his in the process, I don't think Jimmy will mind. The leniency will work both ways - Chuck will be able to play the tape - and Jimmy will be able to bring in evidence that probably wouldn't be permitted in a 'real' court.
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Sagebrush posted:Maybe he's committed as a danger to himself, or maybe he actually dies in the fire. Either one pushes Jimmy closer to working as Saul I'm picturing Chuck covered laid down in a hospital bed, wrapped in white bandages, Jimmy at his side. "Jimmy... Where's Jimmy?" "I'm here for you, Chuck. Brother." "Jimmy... My name... Don't use my name... Argh! " *Dies*
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Steve2911 posted:I don't know much about doctoring documents and whatnot, but would the bar association not be able to tell whether there was any fakery? I'm sure there are experts in the field that would spot it in a heartbeat. If they really wanted to go down that road, yes, it would be fairly easy to detect the faked documents. A trained professional could likely spot the differences between prints from Chuck's printer (original) and ones made at the copy shop (doctored). Jimmy might be superhumanly good with an X-Acto knife but it's more likely that there would be subtle shifts in the text baseline and spacing that, again, a pro would be able to notice. But most importantly, every large commercial printer and copier actually tags its prints (as an anti-counterfeiting measure) with a nearly-invisible code of faint yellow dots, including the printer model and serial number: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printer_steganography So all they have to do is have a tech examine the documents that Chuck claims are doctored, discover that their coding indicates they were printed on a Huge rear end Xerox owned by Discount Copy Shop instead of a personal laser printer, and the evidence against Jimmy is irrefutable. I'd be absolutely shocked if the showrunners actually addressed this though. It would just make things a shitload more complicated and the hidden coding isn't a widely-known thing among the public anyway.
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