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So for the secret religion conversion event chains, anyone have a good idea of what to look to for success (in both conversion and getting them into the cult)? Because it seems pretty unpredictable to me so far.
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Ormi posted:So for the secret religion conversion event chains, anyone have a good idea of what to look to for success (in both conversion and getting them into the cult)? Because it seems pretty unpredictable to me so far. 60% against unlanded 43% against barons 33% counts 27% dukes 9% kings 4% emperors Sympathy is even easier (still base 60%, but higher chances for title dudes). If you want to spread fast, you can target unlanded dudes and let them exponentially snowball entire empires into secret religions, because there doesn't appear to be any target restriction for the AI, and the cooldown for rejected attempts is pretty short at 5 years, so the same guy can be spammed by many dudes in his lifetime until RNG successfully rolls). Also, since the AI chooses randomly for the argument, they start off with a bonus base chance of ~69% poo poo might be broken. See MNM.3405 and MNM.3410 in mnm_secret_religious_societies_events.txt lurksion fucked around with this message at 21:52 on Apr 27, 2017 |
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I REALLY LOVE getting war declared on me during a plague. I had horse nomads declare. The plague started near me, it wasn't to them yet. Yeah, come on, motherfuckers. Guess who died of the plague? Their whole army and also their leader. RIP
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Decided to play as the last Merovingian. Just consoled away the monk trait, gave him Kleves, and away I went. Married a Lombard princess, watched Karl attack Asturias, lose fighting the Saxons, and die. Then I died and my daughter took over, and then it turned out that Lombard princess, imprisoned by the Saxons during the disastrous war, died in prison, but before that she had inherited Lombardy, and when she died it went to my new character, so I suddenly went from the countess of Kleves to the Queen of Italy. I'm suddenly not sure where to go from here, but it's not even 800 yet so I have a bit to figure something out.
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Sorry if the thread takes a dim view on plugging multiplayer games, I checked the OP and searched but I didn't find much to imply anything either way.  My Paradox gaming group finally after something around the length of 18 months finished our megacampaign ending in Hoi4 and we're starting anew! The Song of the Dead: Sundays 0900-1300 PST. We've decided that after several attempts at this that this time around we're going to implement hard nerfs on blobbing. Each time the combination of Players Sufficiently Skilled To Get Empire in the First Ten Years + Players Vassals Because Hell Yeah I Want In just results in something extremely unfun where people don't call the game because we're attached to our nations and hope we can change things up in EU. Map of the intended player slots: White Stars for first priority, Black for if we have enough players; purple we're probably banning interaction with.  quote:A played character may not have a realm size greater than 150. You may get rid of excess lands in any fashion that pleases you; but if a character that was played at any point during the session holds more than 150 holdings at session end, then those lands will be edited away (or alternatively will start triggering nasty events) in the way the editor thinks is least convenient for the player who created this work for him. Our goal is to try to force people to not play CK like Risk, and instead as the dynasty building game it is supposed to be; to that end the goal is to accumulate as much dynastic prestige, namely by spreading it to as many domains as possible, in order to be able to better customize your burgeoning nation-state for EU4. So if anyone thinks this could be fun I'd be happy to play with you and hopefully we won't have to assassinate each other. I'm intending to play as a Merchant republic so my goals are: 1. Get rich. 2. Loan people money. 3. Get angry when they don't pay me back.
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This may be fairly mild when it comes to CK2 diplomacy, but it amused me. I just reunited the christian hispanic kingdoms under a 30-something, gay, chaste king married to a 40 years old chaste woman ( AI marriages - at least they managed to have two kids, here's hoping they make it to kings). So after dealing with the horrible administrative mess that was to suddendly inherit Castilla and Navarra in addition to Aragon, Leon and Galicia, the "Dangerous Factions" popup appeared. Turns out one of my dukes wanted the crown of Castilla, as did his father (who rebelled and got himself imprisoned for a good number of years) and his grandfather (who got elected spymaster and sent to Constantinople to steal tech - somehow managed to survive without a scratch and spent more than twenty years sending out info). This guy is leading two factions, has 130% of my troops, and hates my guts because he's not on the council, among other things. And he's an Elusive Shadow with 19 intrigue. Cool. Not dangerous at all, no sir. So I got him on the council. And turns out the only stat he doesn't suck in is Intrigue, so spymaster it is. Big mistake. That puts him at +8 opinion of me. After a bribe and a honorary title, I get him to ~+30, and he's not moving from there. Meaning that when the bribe wears out I'd have a spymaster who is very, very good at his job, wants one of my crowns, and is just looking for something to get pissed at me for. OR I can fire his rear end and get a guy who's angry at me for firing him from the council. And he's still leading the two factions, to boot. I went searching through the laundry list of opinion traits of me, hoping to find something I can fix. And there's nothing. The worst penalties come from "Wants the kingdom of Castilla" and "Wants the Duchy of Castilla", two things he's NOT getting. And then, there it was... Liege is homosexual: -5 Attraction to homosexual: +30 So I figured, nothing to lose, he's a danger either way. I switched over to Seduction focus, seduced him on the first try, then got the "go to a secluded country house" event not even a month later. He's now the most loyal of all my vassals. The factions are gone for good. And he's still a great Spymaster. As a side effect, my guy lost Chaste in the process  so that'll be one less penalty to kids when he inevitably remarries...
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Jiru posted:And then, there it was... CK2: How I learned to stop worrying and love the dick
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Apr 30, 2017 11:30
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Jiru posted:Meaning that when the bribe wears out I'd have a spymaster who is very, very good at his job, wants one of my crowns, and is just looking for something to get pissed at me for. OR I can fire his rear end and get a guy who's angry at me for firing him from the council. or you can move him to adviser
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lurksion posted:poo poo might be broken. Oh yeah. Once you hit a certain critical mass of vassal-courtiers you snowball out of control. 4% base chance of converting the loving Caliph isn't even a speedbump when you have hundreds of cultists using their own Devotion pools on him. Gahahaha. 
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Apr 30, 2017 13:17
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Jiru posted:
Handled like a true fuckin' vet. Well done 
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Apr 30, 2017 16:27
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Jiru posted:So I figured, nothing to lose, he's a danger either way. I switched over to Seduction focus, seduced him on the first try, then got the "go to a secluded country house" event not even a month later. He's now the most loyal of all my vassals. The factions are gone for good. And he's still a great Spymaster. As a side effect, my guy lost Chaste in the process This is why female rulers can get OP with Way of LIfe.
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Apr 30, 2017 16:31
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And my queen died in a chess game against death at 19 immediately after giving birth to a kid. So, 16 year long regency, ahoy.
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How bad is it to go over the vassal limit? I'm trying to usurp the Arabian Empire through conquest, but I'm way over the vassal limit because I can't hand out the king-level titles until I become Emperor and that will be at least 50-100 years in the future at my current pace. Also, my current ruler is a massive prick with 0 diplomacy. It's been interesting learning vassal management, I can't seem to keep people happy through multiple generations even though I'm passing out good poo poo like candy.
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May 1, 2017 22:04
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Vengarr posted:How bad is it to go over the vassal limit? I'm trying to usurp the Arabian Empire through conquest, but I'm way over the vassal limit because I can't hand out the king-level titles until I become Emperor and that will be at least 50-100 years in the future at my current pace. Also, my current ruler is a massive prick with 0 diplomacy. Being over by one or two probably isn't a problem. Going over by too much causes you to get basically no taxes or levies. Give your Dukes multiple duchies to go back under the limit.
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Edison was a dick posted:Being over by one or two probably isn't a problem. Going over by too much causes you to get basically no taxes or levies. Oh yeah...of course you can have multiple duchies. There was a big rebellion and I have like 6 counts and 2 dukes in my jail. It is intended behavior that I can't just strip all of their titles even though I have the Title Revocation law, yes? I don't see why traitors should get to keep anything  Can't kill or banish them without getting tyranny either...so these guys are destined to rot in prison forever?
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May 1, 2017 23:26
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Vengarr posted:Oh yeah...of course you can have multiple duchies. You can only take one title per incident, I believe. I think Title Revocation is something different? I just keep them in the dungeon forever, I find that if they rebelled once they're unlikely to get enough of an opinion boost to not rebel later on.
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May 1, 2017 23:31
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catlord posted:You can only take one title per incident, I believe. I think Title Revocation is something different? I just keep them in the dungeon forever, I find that if they rebelled once they're unlikely to get enough of an opinion boost to not rebel later on.
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I looked in the OP but it's more than outdated. Can someone recommend resources to get started with this game? I've had it for just over a year and a half and every time I start it, I look at the menu, and immediately feel out of my depth. Is there anything more recent or possibly even better than what's listed on the OP?
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I got into CK2 from Beefart's tutorial LP at the bottom of the OP. That's a good place to start and you can follow along if you turn off cultural names in the game options.
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Yeah, following an lp some of the way is decent training wheels. It won't go down the exact same way obviously but thats part of the fun. You kind of have to sit down and let poo poo get weird for a bit to get the game
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What's the easiest way to bring an unruly and too-powerful vassal duke to heel? I hosed up and didn't notice that this dude somehow got himself set up as the heir to another duchy and now he's being an rear end in a top hat and my borders are all hosed up. Edit: I guess i could just kill him but he's got his inheritance locked down and then i'd just have to deal with his pissed off kid anyway
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andrew smash posted:What's the easiest way to bring an unruly and too-powerful vassal duke to heel? I hosed up and didn't notice that this dude somehow got himself set up as the heir to another duchy and now he's being an rear end in a top hat and my borders are all hosed up. Kill him and his kid, and anyone else who gets in the way.
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andrew smash posted:What's the easiest way to bring an unruly and too-powerful vassal duke to heel? I hosed up and didn't notice that this dude somehow got himself set up as the heir to another duchy and now he's being an rear end in a top hat and my borders are all hosed up. If you marry them vassals can't really do anything against their liege because they're bound by non-aggression pacts.
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Vengarr posted:Oh yeah...of course you can have multiple duchies. You can ransom them for money, or release them for a big opinion boost with all your vassals for being merciful. The dudes you release won't ever like you very much, but if you release a couple duke vassals from prison early in your reign, factions die off quick.
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May 2, 2017 04:21
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Volkerball posted:You can ransom them for money, or release them for a big opinion boost with all your vassals for being merciful. The dudes you release won't ever like you very much, but if you release a couple duke vassals from prison early in your reign, factions die off quick. Of course, keeping them in jail forever will also prevent faction problems. That's the best way to hold on to absolute rule and that sweet demesne bonus
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Lord Cyrahzax posted:Of course, keeping them in jail forever will also prevent faction problems. That's the best way to hold on to absolute rule and that sweet demesne bonus I guess if he's like, your only vassal duke. If you've got multiple vassal dukes/kings, a +10 opinion boost with all of them is worth a hell of a lot more than having one duke imprisoned. Same if you have a bunch of dukes and you captured a lovely count. As an example, if you have a revolt that you crush, and you end up with a king, 3 dukes, and a count imprisoned, you can stand to get nearly a +30 opinion modifier for every one of your vassals, not including the modifier you get for beating a revolt. That's like a 100% guarantee that you aren't going to be revolted on again regardless of how big your realm is, for the rest of your life. And you get a cool 400 gold on top of it. Keeping them imprisoned is a fools move in that situation.
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andrew smash posted:What's the easiest way to bring an unruly and too-powerful vassal duke to heel? I hosed up and didn't notice that this dude somehow got himself set up as the heir to another duchy and now he's being an rear end in a top hat and my borders are all hosed up. If his titles are still on Gavelkind, you can wait for him to have two male kids, then stab him. Gavelkind is real good at breaking up megadukes.
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Volkerball posted:I guess if he's like, your only vassal duke. If you've got multiple vassal dukes/kings, a +10 opinion boost with all of them is worth a hell of a lot more than having one duke imprisoned. Same if you have a bunch of dukes and you captured a lovely count. As an example, if you have a revolt that you crush, and you end up with a king, 3 dukes, and a count imprisoned, you can stand to get nearly a +30 opinion modifier for every one of your vassals, not including the modifier you get for beating a revolt. That's like a 100% guarantee that you aren't going to be revolted on again regardless of how big your realm is, for the rest of your life. And you get a cool 400 gold on top of it. Keeping them imprisoned is a fools move in that situation. The opinion bonus from releasing imprisoned vassals doesn't stack. You will get +9 for five years whether you release one duke or a hundred dukes.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:This is why female rulers can get OP with Way of LIfe. Yeah, my immortal empress was broken because everyone had something like +60 base before all her other good traits.
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Main Paineframe posted:If his titles are still on Gavelkind, you can wait for him to have two male kids, then stab him. Gavelkind is real good at breaking up megadukes. Isn't there a way to force Gavelkind on your vassals?
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White Coke posted:Isn't there a way to force Gavelkind on your vassals? You can demand gavelkind from the diplomacy menu.
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why the gently caress can't I form a merchant republic as a muslim I've made a city the capital holding, I have the required tech and on the coastline Yet the stupid loving thing says my holding type ain't a city UGGHHH and when I consoled into being a merchant republic it turned me into a regular one thank gently caress I wasn't on ironman because the 867 Nefoud start is a loving impossible pain to get off the ground even if it worked
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Deceitful Penguin posted:why the gently caress can't I form a merchant republic as a muslim I think merchant republics have to be a duke-level title. Maybe that's the problem?
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Kenzie posted:I think merchant republics have to be a duke-level title. Maybe that's the problem? Seeing as you can't switch capitals again in a lifetime it was a bit of a hassle. Decided to try my hand at a secret ibadi cult in Aquitaine instead
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Deceitful Penguin posted:why the gently caress can't I form a merchant republic as a muslim You can still do the old republic swapping trick. Easiest with Socotra, but any independent coastal republic can do it.
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Can you no longer convert to you capitals main religion? I just conquered a bunch of Zoroastrian land as a Muslim Persian and I can't seem to convert.
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FreudianSlippers posted:Can you no longer convert to you capitals main religion? Are you zealous? Zealous characters can't take that decision.
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May 4, 2017 00:21
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Also they moved it from the Decisions menu to the right click menu on your own character.
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That seems to have been the problem.
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I was wondering about alternate starts or something and it occurred to me, has anybody done an alternate history mod that's not Lux Invicta? Something less... intensive than that one I was thinking.
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