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Bloody Pom posted:Still testing the waters since I just started playing on the weekend, Raynor is definitely the most newbie-friendly hero I've tried. Picked up Zarya and I've been liking her a lot too. On the support side, Malfurion and Tassadar are the ones I'm having the most fun with.   It's been super fun tooling around on the free rotation guys learning what all the shiny buttons do and smashing the AI. It's really impressive how different heroes feel from each other out of the dozen or so I've played. As a clueless newbie who doesn't own Tracer should I hop into the Brawl mode and awkwardly lose a couple games for the free loot box before that resets?
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BGrifter posted:
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Brawl is not for people to try hard on and this one is pretty fun.
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dont even fink about it posted:If you take all the talents that up your AA damage Raynor is pretty good, I don't really understand people who despise him. His +survivability/aoe buff powers are OK also but not as good. I don't really understand the Raynor hate either. His Q is incredibly good if fully talented and used well, and Hyperion is such a good ult for teamfights or fort pushes. Tried Nova a few times and I can definitely understand the dislike, she just doesn't contribute anything and she can't even gank well.
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Could just be personal bias but I'm finding Murky to be a pretty solid choice on Hanamura. You have enough waveclear to easily blow through a minion wave and start pressuring towers and forts, and along with that you've got a bribe talent at level 1 to take camps easier, so you have multiple ways to generate XP for your team. I just got out of a QM game where it was 8 assassins and 2 specialists so just insane deathmatch city all over the place, and even though fights kept going back and forth with a bunch of ours dying and a bunch of theirs dying, I still managed to keep us at an XP advantage for most of the game.
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Why does my client freeze for a year while clicking the items from loot chests? It makes opening the million free ones they gave me really annoying, and I already find the idea of loot chests and heroes not being free annoying.
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Bloody Pom posted:I don't really understand the Raynor hate either. His Q is incredibly good if fully talented and used well, and Hyperion is such a good ult for teamfights or fort pushes. Much like LiLi, most of Raynor's strategy is placement instead of button pressing so he gets a bad rap. It also doesn't help that bad Raynors love hammering their Q on a fleeing dude -knocking it out of range of teammates who would've sealed the deal. It's also just a workhorse type, so doesn't really get flashy or high skill ceiling plays other characters get. edit: Try using space to open the chests. It'll save some time at least.
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May 3, 2017 03:02
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Bloody Pom posted:Tried Nova a few times and I can definitely understand the dislike, she just doesn't contribute anything and she can't even gank well. To be fair, this is accurate to most video game snipers.
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May 3, 2017 03:11
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Tried Gul'dan's Q build tonight. No sir I don't like it!
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May 3, 2017 04:24
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Played my first hero league in like 6 months, lastpicked Uther on ToD and got a zero death MVP win. At least I know for sure it's going to be all downhill from here.
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Any hero that you can get bribe is great for Hanamura, the "big" creep camps near each base are a single unit, so you can clear the camp instantly with 1 charge, maybe even snag the opposite one if you have 2x charges early on. You easily have enough time to stop and drop the camp while your payload is about to appear. It's free real estate! I tried out Murkey tonight, I was solo vs solo Gul'dan. He could not do anything to shut me down on his own. Any hero that has a channel, like life drain or Leoric's drain or Azmodan's laser, feels so good to bait them into casting and then just drop a blowfish -> bubble. I even got the enemy Li-Ming to waste a couple disintegrate rays on me.
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May 3, 2017 04:26
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Is there an XP difference at all between AI and quick match? When I'm with my friends it's quick match all day long, but when it's just me I don't really touch quick play. But if the XP difference solo is a lot better I'll just suck it up and do quickplay. vs AI is (typically) more chill
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Macaluso posted:Is there an XP difference at all between AI and quick match? When I'm with my friends it's quick match all day long, but when it's just me I don't really touch quick play. But if the XP difference solo is a lot better I'll just suck it up and do quickplay. vs AI is (typically) more chill 25% more XP, it's in the breakdown in the top right corner.
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Macaluso posted:Is there an XP difference at all between AI and quick match? When I'm with my friends it's quick match all day long, but when it's just me I don't really touch quick play. But if the XP difference solo is a lot better I'll just suck it up and do quickplay. vs AI is (typically) more chill
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May 3, 2017 05:33
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On hanamura murky can bubble when the boss is going to eat someone and if murky has aggro during this no one will be eaten.
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May 3, 2017 06:27
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Bruceski posted:25% more XP, it's in the breakdown in the top right corner. Do you get more gold in QM compared to vs AI mode too? 5 man party XP bonus on top of stim pack has made QM an endless festival of loot boxes for now. I still have characters at level 1. Got 7 days stim from beginner chest after doing tutorial. In a couple days, I got another 7 day stim pack from a chest. Has anyone else been getting continuous stim packs from chests? For now, it's a huge help. I can get a character to level 5 super fast, and have plenty that still need to hit that mark. That's a whole lotta chests that are worth rerolling for a perfect drop.
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May 3, 2017 06:35
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Keegers posted:On hanamura murky can bubble when the boss is going to eat someone and if murky has aggro during this no one will be eaten. Further proof that Murky is indeed the best of all characters. Game on Braxis Holdout which I actually kind of like because if you're getting stomped at least it's over quickly and if you win, well, likewise. Spent the whole game feeling like I was on the back foot having to deal with a very aggro Kerrigan and her buddies Sylvanis and Varian but some quick bribery and a stolen camp turned things around along with a choice octograb. Whoever recommended Fishy Deal, that's a good call, I'm liking it more than I thought I would.
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Hi guys, just started playing to get those sweet OW skins but I'm probably going to play until at least hitting level 10- does anyone have a referral link they want me to use as I'm not yet level 5? Didn't see anything in OP about a spreadsheet for them or anything- sorry if I missed it.
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Kitten Baubles posted:Hi guys, just started playing to get those sweet OW skins but I'm probably going to play until at least hitting level 10- does anyone have a referral link they want me to use as I'm not yet level 5? Didn't see anything in OP about a spreadsheet for them or anything- sorry if I missed it. Here's a code if no one else sends one https://battle.net/recruit/CZMSKX7CVP Don't forget to buy a megabundle BEFORE opening any chests. edit: And that's a US region code, you don't get a benefit unless the player who gives you a code is on the same region.
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Played a couple of games with some kind goons yesterday, had a lot of fun. It felt a little awkward having to last-pick when I know nothing about drafting, and because of a very limited hero pool it's hard for those I'm playing with to offer suggestions. I'm not sure how much I contributed, but at least it didn't feel like I made a huge fool of myself. We won both games though, but I noticed that it was hard knowing if we were winning or not, and even if we were winning a team fight or not. Maybe it's my inexperience, but at least in Dota2 I usually always know who's winning. Anyway, thanks to the guys I played with, and hopefully I'll play some more games soon!
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May 3, 2017 09:53
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Hope vs ai games as quests is just a one time thing... alternatively you can't delete a quest you don't want to do, or?
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Sjonkel posted:Played a couple of games with some kind goons yesterday, had a lot of fun. It felt a little awkward having to last-pick when I know nothing about drafting, and because of a very limited hero pool it's hard for those I'm playing with to offer suggestions. I'm not sure how much I contributed, but at least it didn't feel like I made a huge fool of myself. You did pretty fine! As a tip, since you have a limited pool of heroes, it's worth telling people in party who you have so we can build around that. Otherwise everyone will just play what they want to play, assuming you own 99% of the roster like everyone else.  Re: telling whether you're winning a fight or not, some of it boils down to knowing hero mechanics (e.g. a Stim Droned Zul'jin who has Taz'dingo in reserve means "run away"), but mostly it's just about looking at life bars. If your team is down one or more heroes compared to the other team and you're not in a situation where they're all on 30% HP and you're all on 80%, it's going to be very difficult to win the fight, and you're better off just getting out and letting them take the objective than going in one by one to die. Avalerion posted:Hope vs ai games as quests is just a one time thing... alternatively you can't delete a quest you don't want to do, or? You can't delete quests, but you only get vs. AI quests below a certain (fairly low) profile level, IIRC. Once you've got a few hero levels, the game will stop giving them to you. If you're stuck with a bunch of vs. AI quests the easiest way to finish them is to pick Sylvanas, play with AI teammates, and get all the bots to follow you and push down a lane. If you have someone with you who can pick Hammer, it goes even faster. Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 10:18 on May 3, 2017 |
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Avalerion posted:Hope vs ai games as quests is just a one time thing... alternatively you can't delete a quest you don't want to do, or? Yeah they suck. I don't want to play VS AI because I don't learn anything.
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I've played Dota for years, but the stress of it gives me basically permanent stage-fright. I enjoy watching it as an e-sport, but the players are so toxic and the mistakes so punishing. But gently caress do I like HotS. I find myself constantly playing and constantly enjoying myself. Whereas in DotA I would have to spend hours learning item builds and optimal strategies for a hero to even begin to feel like I have a handle on the hero enough to play with others, in HotS I feel I can just jump in. No fear of games dragging on to an hour, no worry about ruining everything for everyone. I can actually just have a good time. I feel like Blizzard just made a MOBA for me personally. That's crazy, but also crazy!
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Must be a bug then cause I'm level 300 something and still rolled the ai one. Yea they can be done fast but still feels like a waste of time. 
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Plavski posted:I've played Dota for years, but the stress of it gives me basically permanent stage-fright. I enjoy watching it as an e-sport, but the players are so toxic and the mistakes so punishing. Even stuff like Hearthstone can give me that sometimes. But not Hots, it's all in good fun, and I love it for that.
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Avalerion posted:Hope vs ai games as quests is just a one time thing... alternatively you can't delete a quest you don't want to do, or? I think you only get that one when your player level is really low. I don't remember ever getting one, but may have when I first started a couple years ago???
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I think I like how many characters have skillshots compared to Dota 2 where it is pretty much all positioning as most abilities are click-targeted. Really improves the skill-ceiling on a lot of characters. Played a bunch of Kael'Thas today. He's a good time for sure. Genji tried to leap over the wall but I caught him mid jump with Gravity Lapse and just wrecked him. So satisfying
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Bruceski posted:25% more XP, it's in the breakdown in the top right corner. Since no one pointed it out, this is for Hero League, NOT Quick Match. siotle posted:Winning a game in QM gives you a flat 50k bonus - you don't get that in Vs. AI. This is the "only" EXP bonus you get in QM. It does add up though, and is noticeably faster. If you really hate playing QM though...
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Martian Buddy posted:Related to Hanamura, how are TLV on that map? Since just looking at it it seems like their kind of map for TLV brand bullshit but I haven't been able to get on and test it. In the few matches I've seen TLV on hanamura they have been really strong. Each viking counts as a body for pushing carts so they can push one or both carts by themselves while the rest of the team contests the enemy payload or pushes down forts.
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Ugh, got a daily quest today to play 3 AI games. That is sure to be a lot of fun being at level 290
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Vikings are strong on Hanamura in that they can do a lot of stuff at once, but imo it's probably not worth it unless you're really confident the other 4 people can handle team fights a man down. Fights are so important on that map. It's been long enough for the stats to build up so here are the Objectively Best Heroes For Hanamura, according to hotslogs hero league data: Azmodan (61.2%) Constant passive split push and can contribute to clearing waves/helping in team fights while pushing/contesting a completely different payload. You can just run in and drop Demonic Invasion and immediately leave and worst case is an enemy hero has to come clean up your mess while a 5v4 happens elsewhere. Samuro (58.6%) I guess being slippery is really good? Can solo push a payload without much risk of being ganked. Also team fights encourage staying in one spot which benefits Samuro as people don't want to run away from him as easily. Probius (56.5%) Huge ability to set up in lane and contest enemy payloads. You know exactly where it's going so easy to get ready. Zul'jin (56.0%) Can back off from team fights, heal up, and come back quickly. Also really good in the smaller skirmishes that tend to happen. LI Li (55.7%) Probably only here because of Li Li's OP as gently caress blind build. The worst heroes are - surprise! - Medivh, Tassadar, Abathur, and also Muradin and Zeratul are very bad apparently.
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I'm 0-5 on hanamura in hero league and 1-12 overall with my one win being a brawl. gently caress that map. Every time I'm up for promo.
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I've been having really good luck playing supports on Hanamura. I think strong support play can carry that map well because there are so many small skirmishes you can tilt in your favor. Auriel in particular I've been having good success with.
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HelixFox posted:Samuro (58.6%) He can steal mercs really easily.
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Kind of lost the will to play this game right now, the map rotation feels super small and even though it's mostly good maps I've gotten really bored with it. Hopefully next patch brings back some more maps.
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The plan is to switch to a different set of reduced maps, so hope you like having both Blackheart's and Garden in the same 6 map rotation! Reddit is extremely red and mad about it though so they might change the plan.
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Had an amazing Hanamura comeback last night with some goons. 1-4 on the verge of a loss when we take a teamfight victory, and the team pushes the payload while I set up to take a fort as probius. 1-3, then we push the fort down for 2x shot next. No one on map so we rush to boss to find them fighting it. With the boss at half health, the game explodes into a huge teamfight with the boss eating and killing people as it goes on. We pick up a quad and finish the boss, then get into a payload race against the one person on the enemy team who had already started to push their payload alone. One hell of a close game and games like that are why this game is so enjoyable.
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I also had an amazing comeback game with Sylvanas on that Zerg map. Aside from sylvanas just being good against the big swarm, it was my first time playing her in a very long time and I took Possession as a talent to try it out. Turns out you can use it on enemy siege creeps. That fact single-handedly turned a lost game into a relatively easy win. The cool down is low enough that you can convert every siege creep on every wave and end up with a huge push of 5+ siege creeps going on the opposite direction. That's definitely a strategy that would only work on the Zerg map, but man, that really made me appreciate Possession.
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HelixFox posted:The plan is to switch to a different set of reduced maps, so hope you like having both Blackheart's and Garden in the same 6 map rotation! Yeeeeeah gonna go ahead and skip that cycle
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