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Taintrunner posted:Because liberals have a fetish for a "reasonable Republican" caricature that they can do the Hamilton with, even if it means showering a loving war criminal responsible for the death and misery of millions with love and adoration. Blue Collar Trump supporters are more reasonable to engage in discussion with than these asshats. At least they're able to recognize how bad of an idea the Iraq war was and you can even win them over on various lefty economic platforms now. The thing that bizarrely angered me is how they're putting themselves on the cross right now. How it's they that are going to go to conversation therapy, get their access to planned parenthood taken away, etc. The person that went to private schools all their lives, had their parents fund them all through their existence..all that poo poo? They're not the ones. It's the poor women and poor lgbt that suffer. They cosplay as people that are supposedly under nazi occupation, which honestly quite offends me. My grandmother lived under Nazi occupation. She got taken in and held captive by the SS because she knew how to read, write english. She was released because they realized she was just a kid at the time. Her brother also got a similiar treatment, and she said her uncle got shot because he wouldn't give up his jewish workers. These people meanwhile have not had their civil liberties taken away. (This is not to say that they AREN'T people in America who have had their rights taken away. But they're not the people in that crowd)
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FuzzySkinner posted:Blue Collar Trump supporters are more reasonable to engage in discussion with than these asshats. At least they're able to recognize how bad of an idea the Iraq war was and you can even win them over on various lefty economic platforms now. i sorta of agree. i think they definitely are more open to actually left wing ideas. but i think their is a decent amount of bigotry/racism in the poor white working class. my friend works at a charity/ngo that helps disabled and poor people find jobs and get a foot in the door and the office is in Coal country south east PA and alot of them have bigoted as gently caress opinions and treat the one black kid who goes there like poo poo. that being said, my friend believes its mostly stems from poverty and them using right wing media as a escape and them slowly believing all that bullshit. it can be undone at least for the younger ones. but yeah your right.
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https://twitter.com/CNN/status/858706384011096064 Naw man. There's no problems. Trump lost the election, and the Democrats regained power at national, state and local levels. ... These are the people that need to be pantsed and mocked at every turn.
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FuzzySkinner posted:https://twitter.com/CNN/status/858706384011096064 It's so goddamn embarassing. One of the most devastating and humiliating defeats in electoral history and the general attitude is "uh russia's behind it all, and we did literally nothing wrong, also berniebros" while making excuses for a President who gave Wall Street a free pass and a blank check, gave private health insurance a blank check with no mandate to provide adequate care, did nothing about Ferguson and the epidemic of police brutality besides giving them more access to military hardware, and waged an illegal drone war on brown bodies with a 90% failure rate. These people should be ashamed, and in exile.  Instead they start talking like this to defend big money in politics.
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Taintrunner posted:It's so goddamn embarassing. One of the most devastating and humiliating defeats in electoral history and the general attitude is "uh russia's behind it all, and we did literally nothing wrong, also berniebros" while making excuses for a President who gave Wall Street a free pass and a blank check, gave private health insurance a blank check with no mandate to provide adequate care, did nothing about Ferguson and the epidemic of police brutality besides giving them more access to military hardware, and waged an illegal drone war on brown bodies with a 90% failure rate. These people should be ashamed, and in exile. She blamed "racism" in the clip. This coming from a woman who doesn't want her children going to school with African Americans, and considered a trip to rikers "paradise" because she didn't have her phone on her. These are the people that need to be ousted, purged from our side, not championed as the "face" of the left. The constant excuses and refusal to acknowledge that people were struggling during this entire time. You can only blame the "republicans" for so long. Do not get me wrong on this. The Republicans are pretty awful, but man the neoliberal enablers are almost worse in a lot of ways. e: The problem isn't so much who voted for Trump. It's who DIDN'T vote for Clinton. They sucked at reaching "Behind the blue wall", getting African Americans, Hispanics, and even women to bother to show up. And really? Who could loving blame them. Would you want to get off your rear end to vote for more neoliberalism? Those people are hurt just as much, if not MORE than the white working class they keep blaming their loss on. FuzzySkinner has issued a correction as of 20:45 on Apr 30, 2017 |
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Bernie's weakest demo now is white people, but bernie is racist and sexist guys
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Taintrunner posted:It's so goddamn embarassing. One of the most devastating and humiliating defeats in electoral history and the general attitude is "uh russia's behind it all, and we did literally nothing wrong, also berniebros" while making excuses for a President who gave Wall Street a free pass and a blank check, gave private health insurance a blank check with no mandate to provide adequate care, did nothing about Ferguson and the epidemic of police brutality besides giving them more access to military hardware, and waged an illegal drone war on brown bodies with a 90% failure rate. These people should be ashamed, and in exile. It's especially bad because they managed to lose to Trump. That's like losing a Marathon to a toddler. The excuses are all some form of, "I would have won, but I lost 30 seconds when my shoes came undone at mile 18." Yeah, sure. Maybe that delay was enough for the toddler to win. But the problem wasn't the 30 second interruption. It was that Hillary's campaign was such a failure that Trump got anywhere close in the first place. Trump had half of Hilary's funding. He didn't have a real campaign staff for most of the election. He had continuous scandals. He got endorsements from all of 2 national newspapers. Hilary should have had a Nixon-level blowout. But, instead of asking how she squandered that unbelievable advantage, the dems are trying to find the one, final factor that pushed Trump over the edge. The dems are going to fix their email server. They'll be ready to beat 2016-era Trump! Meanwhile, Tump will be coming into the 2020 elections with a huge fundraising advantage, control over the house and senate, and a real campaign staff.
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get that OUT of my face posted:moviebob's political beliefs and pop culture analyses come off as really insincere, as do most culture critics who have a political ax to grind. but you don't have to be a dyed-in-the-wool believer in order to get attention and clicks KM mainly keeps to her own posting ghetto, so the simple solution is to just not go there and let the people who want both more recognition and equality but also to segregate themselves while posting angrily about white people have their space. Let people like Tiny Brontosaurus or College Republicans have their own safe space.
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falcon2424 posted:It's especially bad because they managed to lose to Trump. If the DNC just keeps doubling down on Neoliberalism mixed with faux "woke" inter-sectional feminism? I don't see a reason why anyone outside of rich white people who live in Sillicon Valley, Hollywood, Brooklyn/Manhattan, and the Beltway should waste their time giving them a vote. (Aka The "Hamilton" demo). I keep looking at the Sam Bee''s, and Peter Dauo's of the world then I feel physically ill. These are people that don't identify with any sort of struggle related to the working class in this county. Hell they don't identify with minorities in this country, yet they keep hiding behind them in a desperate attempt to excuse their shittiness. I'm tired as an  citizen to have my concerns about friends, family and neighbors of all races, creeds, sexualities and gender being dismissed by these asshats. That's exactly what they do with this "russia" crap, and other gas lighting efforts they chirp up about.
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FuzzySkinner posted:Sam Bee crafted Bernie Sanders into a person that abuses and beats women. Byolante posted:I kinda wonder if the Australian Gun Laws piece on the daily show would still be made now because it criticised politicians for not acting in their voter's interests before their ability to get elected. get that OUT of my face has issued a correction as of 00:33 on May 2, 2017 |
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Go gently caress yourself, Daily Show https://twitter.com/KyleKulinski/status/859242862432722945 (Also, Carter seems to be like he was too good to be involved with the Presidency compared to his contemporaries...) get that OUT of my face posted:that's giving one person too much credit because "bernie bro" worked its way up from random internet people to websites like Blue Nation Review. she was the person most visibly on tv saying that, so it's easy to say she controlled that narrative It really is incredible how much control the Clinton team had over the media during the primary, and hell during the general. It really made a lot of people feel genuinely powerless when they'd report various half truths and outright lies to smear people to the left of them. And it ultimately backfired on them...big time.
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https://twitter.com/RawStory/status/859254889347723265 "hey guys. I'm gonna use a homophobic slur against someone I don't like. Don't worry. It's cool, I'm not like those Neanderthals on the right,"
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drat, Colbert. That's a shame. What annoys me most about all this is that the same flimsy morals were used to abuse family and friends for being white straight people from the Midwest are so easily forgotten when it's "the enemy" you're describing. I don't even mind that he used a homophobic slur, especially since that's a pretty light one. What I mind is the fact that a guy on the street saying the same thing about a different person would be crucified on his show. I guess what I'm saying is that I would like to kill and eat Colbert for his social immunity and money.
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FuzzySkinner posted:https://twitter.com/RawStory/status/859254889347723265 idk if its a homophobic slur but im hella mad at the kink shaming
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FisheyStix posted:drat, Colbert. That's a shame. What annoys me most about all this is that the same flimsy morals were used to abuse family and friends for being white straight people from the Midwest are so easily forgotten when it's "the enemy" you're describing. I don't even mind that he used a homophobic slur, especially since that's a pretty light one. What I mind is the fact that a guy on the street saying the same thing about a different person would be crucified on his show. I think that's kinda what offends me about it. The hypocrisy. I'm a fan of blue humor and offensive jokes. I think that when used right? They can provide a lot of joy and sometimes highlight how hosed up things are. (James Adomian doing a bit on "Gay cartoon villians" for example). But that's what this particular class of people do. It's kinda the same thing with a few of them mocking white trash Americans and acting like they're better than them. I got my rear end kicked trying to find a job out of college. Turns out, no, you're not better than that person who lives in the trailer park busting his rear end to try to feed his family. That's a lesson a lot of people in that "class" of people need to learn or relearn.
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I am about to the point where I honestly wouldn't mind of they learned that lesson under a guillotine. These people never have and never will be my allies unless they can score points off my sexual identity, and if I didn't even have that, they'd toss me in the garbage with the rest of the working poor. I can't imagine how insulting it must be if you're black or transgender, or something way more visible than "gay" to have these soulless hedonist parasites as the vaunted champions of your cause. If minorities weren't so desperate for allies, I think more of them would despise people like colbert for actively harming their cause. Because that's what it does. We would be better served by an enemy that we can unite against instead of an ally that abuses our misfortune for their own profit, to say nothing of the poor and middle class (amazing that there's still a distinction between the two) who could put the money towards something other than sucking their own dicks, to borrow some imagery. Maybe poo poo like not having an entire town full of poison water or an education system that isn't internationally laughed at. You know. The little things.
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FisheyStix posted:I am about to the point where I honestly wouldn't mind of they learned that lesson under a guillotine. These people never have and never will be my allies unless they can score points off my sexual identity, and if I didn't even have that, they'd toss me in the garbage with the rest of the working poor. at least they pretend to care about you. none of these woke cunts give a gently caress about physically disabled people. they fling "abelest" around willy nilly about dumb light stuff or mental illness and they will bend over backwards for "transabled" people but real cripples arn't worth poo poo.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:at least they pretend to care about you. none of these woke cunts give a gently caress about physically disabled people. they fling "abelest" around willy nilly about dumb light stuff or mental illness and they will bend over backwards for "transabled" people but real cripples arn't worth poo poo. The secret to being woke is you don't actually have to give a poo poo about anyone but yourself These people would laugh at a mass grave as long as you put up a sign that said "white people" next to it. Nevermind how many black, Hispanic, gay, crippled children lay strewn across the top. They would laugh and laugh, laugh until tears streamed down their cheeks. Laugh until the light of setting sun turned their tears to blood, and their shadows into long knives. The fuckers.
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FisheyStix posted:I am about to the point where I honestly wouldn't mind of they learned that lesson under a guillotine. These people never have and never will be my allies unless they can score points off my sexual identity, and if I didn't even have that, they'd toss me in the garbage with the rest of the working poor. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcOp2VtIv8o Humanist Report kinda nailed this line of horseshit logic down used by the woke neoliberals. They seem very keen on denying people justice under the guise of trying to "white knight" for people. They use the language of progressivism, populism...and then throw them under the bus when elected. You've kinda nailed it though. The true enemy of justice is not conservative, it's the neoliberal moderate who plays interference for them.
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so what happened with slate, did they forget scare quotes somewhere or are they opening an alt-right joint on the far left?
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Kraps posted:so what happened with slate, did they forget scare quotes somewhere or are they opening an alt-right joint on the far left?
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It's clearly ironic, like that Colbert Show tweet about the Redskins that got him in trouble a few years back. The lesson is to stop hiring C-SPAM posters to write headlines for your mainstream publication.
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colbert is good when hes outrageous and political im more pro-good-entertainment than anything else!! he also said cuck (and he said it RIGHT) so im happy
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FuzzySkinner posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcOp2VtIv8o Why force actual change when you can string them along, throwing out a minor law that kind of benefits them when reelection time comes?
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FisheyStix posted:I am about to the point where I honestly wouldn't mind of they learned that lesson under a guillotine. These people never have and never will be my allies unless they can score points off my sexual identity, and if I didn't even have that, they'd toss me in the garbage with the rest of the working poor. I think if you leave the goal of a more humane society, in the hands of people who are more interested in conspicuous displays of virtue over pragmatic action, society will continue down the path it is. A lot of the growth of reactionary animus over the Obama years, follows as a direct consequence from the influence of these wokes as 'representatives' the multicultural alternative, and their indifference to the concerns of the people they're obstensibly trying to persuade to be less racist or whatever. They're not interested in talking as equals to ordinary people, who probably smell, instead preferring to believe that being smug and self righteous is somehow going to ingratiate people to your cause. But that's presently the situation, it is in their hands, and they've placed it in their hands through supression of anyone else who doesn't fit their mold. 'There is no alternative - we made sure of that'. The probability of them being dislodged is also quite small. They have corporate backing, yet they have adopted the clothing of radical resistance. The irony of this, is that anyone newly politicized, interested in radical opposition, is probably going to end up in their camp, and thereby only perpetuate the system - neoliberal capitalism has essentially become a totalitarian system, where oppossition to the system is now integrated into it's smooth functioning. I dont think anything is going to change, until they lose, bigly. Clinton/Trump wasn't enough, despite losing essentially all government influence, they still remain and somehow still present themselves as viable. Their incompetence is essentially directing us into the worst of all possible worlds. But they'll never take responsibility for the effect of their actions, or accept that they had any part in it - everything is always someone else's fault, never their own. That kind of mindset is impervious to persuasion or self reflection, they'll just keep going until they die or everyone stops listening to them. So I think their loss is inevitable, the question is what comes after they lose, and that can be a different story.
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super sweet best pal posted:tl;dr, primary those fuckers out. They could go back to the republicans where they sincerely belong at this point. They're Rockefeller republicans who fled the right after LBJ signed civil rights legislation Let the left be the party of DSA, Greens, and such. The left needs to be the party of justice reform, economic justice, unions, anti-war, and protecting the environment. Neoliberals represent none of that.
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fast cars loose anus posted:I would like to mock this person Tweet is gone, what was it?
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Not a Step posted:Tweet is gone, what was it?  For reference, the original novel by Agatha Christie was about the train.
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