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MiddleOne posted:Where is that gif of Bugs Bunny sawing off That would only cause it to collide into Norway...
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Randarkman posted:That would only cause it to collide into Norway... Like we won't have to accept danish refugees anyway as soon as Greenland melts and puts all of Denmark under water? Eh, move'em to Greenland, actually. They wanted the place bad enough to steal it in the first place, now they can live there.
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Go all the way instead. http://gravbortskane.se/
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gräv bort stockholm imo. om det finns städer i medelpad kan den nya huvudstaden ligga där dom förtjänar lite uppmärksamhet
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Nice piece of fish posted:Like we won't have to accept danish refugees anyway as soon as Greenland melts and puts all of Denmark under water? Eh, move'em to Greenland, actually. They wanted the place bad enough to steal it in the first place, now they can live there. Danes should evolve gills and stay where they are.
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Randarkman posted:That would only cause it to collide into Norway... Yes, but  Nice piece of fish posted:Like we won't have to accept danish refugees anyway as soon as Greenland melts and puts all of Denmark under water? Eh, move'em to Greenland, actually. They wanted the place bad enough to steal it in the first place, now they can live there. 
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May 3, 2017 14:51
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How is the danish government even surviving
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V. Illych L. posted:How is the danish government even surviving Idiots and Social Democrats, mainly. But I repeat myself. They just finalised a 20bn DKK deal with them to save the wealthiest homeowners from taxes, while at the same time claiming that there's no money for welfare. It's "financed" with half of the supposed economic latitude provided by additional labour supply from welfare cuts based on, you know, the notoriously unreliable projection models used by the government that literally have the words "rational agents" in the name (Danish Rational Economic Agents Model). They have another model called SMILE.
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they are basing their economic policy on a DREAM well ok
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V. Illych L. posted:they are basing their economic policy on a DREAM Socialists?
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V. Illych L. posted:they are basing their economic policy on a DREAM It's referred to as "DREAM-modellen" in regular speech, upsetting pedants everywhere. And yes, Nils, a model supposing the existence of "rational agents" is obviously socialist. Good call.
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SplitSoul posted:It's referred to as "DREAM-modellen" in regular speech, upsetting pedants everywhere. I've worked with the DREAM model, and it's because of the way it's setup with so-called 'dynamic effects' and the way it models labour supply/demand (etc.) it is literally a machine you ask 'what should we do?' and the answer is always going to be 'lower taxes, decrease public spending'. That's basically all it does. It is utterly baffling to me that supposedly reasonably well-educated people (left and right governments have used this) are not able to see the, completely obvious, neo-classical economic theory and laissez faire capitalism ideology the model is based on. The people behind it of course keeps saying 'it's just a tool! It's just a tool!' as if it was statistical method, like OLS/GLM or similar, but it's so clearly not. It has built in assumptions about the behavior of people which are completely ideologically/normatively based, but either the imbeciles who are behind it are so entrenched/indoctrinated in their own field that they simply don't realize it, or they are willfully ignorant/purposefully misleading - I'd wager reasonable money on the latter, but probably a combination.
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Revelation 2-13 posted:(left and right governments have used this) Last time this country had a remotely left-wing government was 1982. Nyrup was responsible for the largest number of privatisations of any government in Danish history.
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I wish we could have Anker Jørgensen back 
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Even if he was a proper Social Democrat he'd still be a Social Democrat. Edit: 4-6 months in juvie with time served and 8-12 months probation for the four youths. Quelle surprise. SplitSoul fucked around with this message at 15:48 on May 4, 2017 |
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Zero Gravitas posted:Hey scandi thread! As a starting wage? Sure. It's pretty ok, you'll easily be able to live on that. Probably even afford property. Then again, you'd be living in Kristiansand, and who wants to do that? It's like 52 000$ a year, but compared to cost of living and such versus health care costs (which is socialized and all)... I dunno. Your hourly wage for a normal full time job would be 239 NOK, which is like 27,50 in $. What do you think? Do keep in mind that norwegian employment law gives you a bunch of benefits that don't exist in other, supposedly developed countries. Feel free to ask if there's anything else you'd like to know. Edit: Wait, is this an engineer's position or as a civil engineer konsulting? If it's the latter, it's kind of low.
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May 5, 2017 14:01
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450k is on the low end of expected for private sector academic work, but you're not getting scammed, and it's a decently middle-class income
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May 5, 2017 14:15
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Like, things are a bit more expensive in general, but outside of eating out or alcohol it's not twice as expensive as britain
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V. Illych L. posted:450k is on the low end of expected for private sector academic work, but you're not getting scammed, and it's a decently middle-class income Yeah, pretty much. I mean, wages are a bit depressed around that area, and it's on the low end sure, but it's not unreasonable. You might be slightly overqualified for that wage, but you can rectify that in re-negotiation or a better job elsewhere once you've got norwegian work experience on your resume. Besides, why would you want to go out in Kristiansand anyway? Ugh.
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V. Illych L. posted:Like, things are a bit more expensive in general, but outside of eating out or alcohol it's not twice as expensive as britain Depends on where in Britain he is coming from, but Norway in general is expensive as hell in terms of general living expenses even compared to other rich European countries. A 2x salary increase might also be significantly larger or smaller depending on the specific income taxation and associated costs for social services.
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A few years ago I would have said that 450k is pretty standard for a BSc, and a MSc should be able to expect 500k. However, once the latest installment of the oil crisis hit that went out the window. Education is now very devalued and if you are low on relevant work experience you should thank your lucky stars you got an offer. 450k will let you live pretty comfortably in Kristiansand.
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If they are set on keeping a typical British lifestyle expecting a 2x salary is pretty accurate. Takeout and alcohol will be the biggest hurdles.
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May 5, 2017 21:12
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You could try putting out an ad stating that you are looking for a place to live, a lot of people pick their tenants like that.
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Zero Gravitas posted:EDIT PS are there other places to find a place to rent than Finn plus jesus christ how the hell are your second hand cars with 100,000 miles on clock still that expensive Well, I know that a whole lot of Norwegian engineers both in country and abroad have lost their jobs in the last couple of years, as the number of students in PPU-programs (1-year teacher education for those with prior higher education) is at a record high, with a whole lot of them being former engineers trying to become math and physics (or chemistry) teachers. This is quite ironic as I remember back when I was in junior high school and onwards that they had people come in to give talks about engineering that basically could be boiled down to: "Everybody become an engineer! We need a whole bunch of you now and forever!" Though other than Norway seems to be doing fine I think. There hasn't really been an economic crash that has had that big of an impact outside of those engineers losing their jobs, and unemployment in general is still very low. Our currency has lost a lot of value over the last couple of years due to the drop in oil prices, used to be Norwegians could spend money frivolously in the EU and the US due to the strength of our currency (and the fact that we are a rather high income country doesn't hurt), that's not really the case any more. And there's the always present ever expanding housing bubble, though that's as much a part of the landscape at this point as fjords and moose. Randarkman fucked around with this message at 21:37 on May 5, 2017 |
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Zero Gravitas posted:Whats wrong with krsand? is this the bible belt thing? Nothing, in actual real life, I'm just trying to get a rise out of any of the damnable southrons reading this. If it had been like Drammen, Fredrikstad or Tønsberg, that would have been poo poo. Wine isn't really all that expensive compared to spirits. There's plenty of cheap, decent wine available. The buying duty free isn't really a huge money saver on your annual budget, that's more of a tradition thing. I can't even begin to describe how not-hosed Norway is going to be in the future compared to just about the entirety of Europe. Norway will be fine, oil or no oil. Honestly, not really even feeling the whole low oil price thing, that's mostly the west country, and things are even picking up now. We're still technically below 4% unemployment. As to the PS, seen the price of a new car? Devaluation doesn't work like that, the price starts high and remains high proportionately. Two reasons: Taxes and the fact that norwegian car buyers can and will pay extra. Because we are stupid like that. Literally, that's a reason why the car sellers keep their prices high. Not joking.
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Nice piece of fish posted:Nothing, in actual real life, I'm just trying to get a rise out of any of the damnable southrons reading this. If it had been like Drammen, Fredrikstad or Tønsberg, that would have been poo poo. I will loving fight you
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Randarkman posted:I will loving fight you If you're from Drammen I suspect you loving will, for just about any reason.
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Can confirm that Drammen is really nice these days. But I've only been there twice and in armed convoys, and have been advised not to interact with the locals (sorry)
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Grevling posted:Drammen looks pretty decent these days. Still the ugliest highway intersection in Norway.
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Nice piece of fish posted:Still the ugliest highway intersection in Norway. The city's an industrial port and communications hub, what do you want? The fact that central areas have been prettied up and there's been some degree of gentrification means that it looks much nicer now than it used to. Still the bad reputation it used to have and still has is undeserved. I think alot of it comes down from people from Oslo having a condescending view of any place in the East that does not contain their cottages, and that attitude seeping into the rest of the country. Maybe also a general prejudice against places viewed as typically low-class/working class (though which now is somewhat gentrified and largely votes for H...). Pledge to fight still stands. Randarkman fucked around with this message at 22:29 on May 5, 2017 |
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Government Handjob posted:You could try putting out an ad stating that you are looking for a place to live, a lot of people pick their tenants like that.
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I look at this and think: FLOODING!
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Poil posted:I look at this and think: FLOODING! Which, lets be honest, could only be an improvement on Drammen.
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Randarkman posted:The city's an industrial port and communications hub, what do you want? Okay, okay, just one more, okay? It's a little known fact about Drammen that it's the only place in Norway that has never had a UFO sighting. It's the closest thing we've found to proof of intelligent life in the universe. Poil posted:I look at this and think: FLOODING! I look at that and think lovely beer. Looks like aass, tastes like aass.
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