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Harrow posted:While I'm griping about story things that I'm probably actually wrong about : I can see Kaneshiro I guess, but the fact that Madarame was part of the conspiracy is hilarious to me. If a sham artist is so integral for Shido's goals, they might as well have gone the whole nine yards and said the gym teacher was in on it too.
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ROFL Octopus posted:I can see Kaneshiro I guess, but the fact that Madarame was part of the conspiracy is hilarious to me. If a sham artist is so integral for Shido's goals, they might as well have gone the whole nine yards and said the gym teacher was in on it too. Create the best volleyball team this country has ever seen!
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May 3, 2017 19:36
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I mean the principal is part of Shido's cronies so it isn't that much of a stretch
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Finally I can embarrass my political rival's alma mater at volleyball
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there should have been more options to spam photos of morgana to everyone to show how he does weird cat stuff when no one is looking
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ROFL Octopus posted:I can see Kaneshiro I guess, but the fact that Madarame was part of the conspiracy is hilarious to me. If a sham artist is so integral for Shido's goals, they might as well have gone the whole nine yards and said the gym teacher was in on it too.
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It's also possible that the students just assumed that Joker wasn't the guy seeing as how a few weeks before, the police actually came to Shujin and interviewed all the students. And if they didn't arrest him back then, when everyone already knows that he's got a record... well, it's probably not him. They also just might not care who it was because they're relieved that the guy was finally arrested and now they're safe.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I think this game not having as many goofy vignettes as 4 (like the "We're all going to eat a watermelon" scene) makes sense, but the group chats could have been used for more characterization stuff, because, you know, teens these days. The stuff they already have is pretty good so more of it would not be unwelcome. Agreed, that seemed like a missed opportunity. The phone chats almost exclusively being plot stuff was disappointing when they could've had more just general conversation going on.
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NRVNQSR posted:I forget, did someone actually say at some point that Madarame was part of the conspiracy? Or are people just assuming that because he saw Black Mask-kun? They did. His paintings were apparently being used to help launder money for the conspiracy.
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I thought Madarame's name came up just in terms of garden-variety political corruption/blackmail, the famous artist kicking up money to a guy likely to do him favors in the future, also probably they learned those nasty secrets about him because they saw his Palace. It wasn't like he was an active conspirator or anythingZore posted:They did. His paintings were apparently being used to help launder money for the conspiracy. Well that's kind of dumb
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ROFL Octopus posted:I can see Kaneshiro I guess, but the fact that Madarame was part of the conspiracy is hilarious to me. If a sham artist is so integral for Shido's goals, they might as well have gone the whole nine yards and said the gym teacher was in on it too. I'm pretty sure he wasn't integral, he was just in on it. In the same sense that Okumura was. A client who maybe ordered a few assassinations in exchange for donating money to the cause. And someone who would be immediately sacrificed if he became a risk. I mean, I do think it was stupid and pointless to name-drop him there, but it doesn't seem unreasonable to me. Madarame was just a successful rear end in a top hat, so why wouldn't he be a part of the Successful Assholes Club? Clarste fucked around with this message at 19:51 on May 3, 2017 |
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I think it would've been more amusing if instead of being one of the conspirators, Madarame was just a guy who happened to rip off Shido with a fake Sayuri, and Shido sent Akechi after him out of spite after realizing it.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I think this game not having as many goofy vignettes as 4 (like the "We're all going to eat a watermelon" scene) makes sense, but the group chats could have been used for more characterization stuff, because, you know, teens these days. The stuff they already have is pretty good so more of it would not be unwelcome. It's a shame, I was excited for the chats going into P5 because I thought they were one of the best parts of the Fire Emblem crossover game. A couple of them are really fun (mainly with Yusuke or Futaba) but most of them are just "I'm worried" "Me too." "All we can do is wait." It feels like a waste, and I hope the inevitable re-release just outright replaces a lot of them.
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May 3, 2017 19:53
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I'd love to press square and bring up the phone, and there's a message from Ryuji waiting for me where all it says is "lol". Open it up, and there's a dumb image meme waiting for me. No social stats ups, no relationship points, just pure character interaction for its own sake. EDIT: Although maybe that'd be more Futaba's thing.
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Coughing Hobo posted:I'd love to press square and bring up the phone, and there's a message from Ryuji waiting for me where all it says is "lol". Open it up, and there's a dumb image meme waiting for me. No social stats ups, no relationship points, just pure character interaction for its own sake.
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The fact that Ann doesn't use a single emoji throughout the entire game requires the biggest suspension of disbelief
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:The fact that Ann doesn't use a single emoji throughout the entire game requires the biggest suspension of disbelief are there really none in her all out attack cutin
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Lakbay posted:I mean the principal is part of Shido's cronies so it isn't that much of a stretch The principal makes more sense to me. It's a top position in a prestigious school, and he has the ability to direct like-minded and useful individuals into Shido's conspiracy. Like he probably wasn't in Shido's inner circle, but people like that can be useful.
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May 3, 2017 20:16
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Coughing Hobo posted:I'd love to press square and bring up the phone, and there's a message from Ryuji waiting for me where all it says is "lol". Open it up, and there's a dumb image meme waiting for me. No social stats ups, no relationship points, just pure character interaction for its own sake. So something like what sister game Tokyo Mirage had in it's messages?
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I would play Tokyo Mirage Sessions, but after Persona 5's pure style, footage of that looked kind of flat to me. Also I don't have a Wii U
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It's good, imo. Still not sold on the whole idol culture being good thing that it + P4DaN seem to espouse, but the characters not named Tiki were very good.
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Bogart posted:It's good, imo. Still not sold on the whole idol culture being good thing that it + P4DaN seem to espouse, but the characters not named Tiki were very good. Tiki is good
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Bogart posted:It's good, imo. Still not sold on the whole idol culture being good thing that it + P4DaN seem to espouse, but the characters not named Tiki were very good. Didn't dancing all night have an idol who killed herself after too much pressure from the exploitive industry?
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ROFL Octopus posted:Didn't dancing all night have an idol who killed herself after too much pressure from the exploitive industry? No, she killed herself because she felt isolated and that there was nobody out there who really understood her or cared about her. There is an rear end in a top hat, exploitive producer as one of the major characters in the game, though it's revealed that most of that is just an act to more effectively market the idols working for her, since fans are more likely to be sympathetic to a group of sweet girls who have an overbearing tyrant as their manager, and thus more likely to spend money on their stuff to support them.
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Rirse posted:So something like what sister game Tokyo Mirage had in it's messages? Hell yeah, that was one of the best things in TMS.
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The thing about TMS is, how lazy and cheap do you have to be not only to not redub the combat dialogue, but to not even sub it? Yes I'm aware it's just the usual combat jabber, but having every fight peppered with completely untranslated japanese dialogue was just a bizarre and not ok experience to me that took me right out of the game. I'm a single issue TMS (localization) hater, I'm sorry for my views
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Wait, Dancing All Night has a plot? I mean I shouldn't be surprised but I am.
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No Mods No Masters posted:The thing about TMS is, how lazy and cheap do you have to be not only to not redub the combat dialogue, but to not even sub it? Yes I'm aware it's just the usual combat jabber, but having every fight peppered with completely untranslated japanese dialogue was just a bizarre and not ok experience to me that took me right out of the game. Given the amount of effort put into localizing everything other than the lack of a dub, I'm pretty sure not dubbing was a stylistic choice, probably because of the number of times the characters break out into jpop songs. This is the game that redid all the textures in a dungeon in order to change a character's arc from "becoming okay with doing skimpy bikini shoots" to "becoming comfortable in front of cameras". This is the game that went back to the original japanese voice acting and had Tsubasa rerecord all of her lines where she says "17 years old", in japanese, to "18 years old" so it would match the localized script.
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NRVNQSR posted:Wait, Dancing All Night has a plot? I mean I shouldn't be surprised but I am. A fairly in-depth one too. You can't fight in the special kind of TV world most of the game takes place in so you need to overcome differences and change minds through the power of dancing.
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cheetah7071 posted:Given the amount of effort put into localizing everything other than the lack of a dub, I'm pretty sure not dubbing was a stylistic choice, probably because of the number of times the characters break out into jpop songs. This is the game that redid all the textures in a dungeon in order to change a character's arc from "becoming okay with doing skimpy bikini shoots" to "becoming comfortable in front of cameras". This is the game that went back to the original japanese voice acting and had Tsubasa rerecord all of her lines where she says "17 years old", in japanese, to "18 years old" so it would match the localized script. That dialogue isn't even subbed, though, as far as I could tell. If they put in effort elsewhere it's more than canceled out IMO by an inexplicable lack of effort being shoved in your face in every single random encounter
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Bogart posted:I want to see more memes.     
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Bogart posted:I want to see more memes. 
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Bogart posted:I want to see more memes. 
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NRVNQSR posted:Wait, Dancing All Night has a plot? I mean I shouldn't be surprised but I am. It opened with an animated cutscene of a little girl trying to track down her favorite idol after a concert to get an autograph and walking in on her mere seconds after she'd hung herself. And you thought Persona 5 escalated quickly.
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No Mods No Masters posted:That dialogue isn't even subbed, though, as far as I could tell. If they put in effort elsewhere it's more than canceled out IMO by an inexplicable lack of effort being shoved in your face in every single random encounter There's a non-zero chance that trying to rework the battle engine to allow for subtitles was a planned feature that ended up taking more effort than they reasonably wanted to put in. As far as I remember, all of the in-battle dialogue was extremely generic dialogue that didn't really say much of anything. Like, if the dialogue actually had anything of substance, I'd agree that it's a really poor decision, but it's a lot of fluff that's just kinda there.
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ChaosArgate posted:There's a non-zero chance that trying to rework the battle engine to allow for subtitles was a planned feature that ended up taking more effort than they reasonably wanted to put in. As far as I remember, all of the in-battle dialogue was extremely generic dialogue that didn't really say much of anything. Like, if the dialogue actually had anything of substance, I'd agree that it's a really poor decision, but it's a lot of fluff that's just kinda there. I feel like the same could be said of the battle dialogue in this game, but if all of it was completely untranslated, sub or dub, I think a lot of people would not be okay with that in the least. That said I'll drop the derail, it's just something that really bothers me about the TMS localization. Most people seem to give it a pass and that's fine but it really killed my ability to enjoy it, I wish I could because otherwise it seemed like a decent game No Mods No Masters fucked around with this message at 21:34 on May 3, 2017 |
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