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So, while I know it's completely ridiculous and futile, mock drafting is actually kind of hard to do, especially outside of the lottery.
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http://www.scout.com/college/basketball/recruiting/story/1774915-source-thomas-bryant-will-sign-with-an-agent Thomas Bryant has signed an agent, bold move for a guy predicted to go in the 2nd round.
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May 1, 2017 23:18
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Rick posted:So, I can't find this direct quote, but I've seen more than one person reference it, and, if you google search the quote, it hits Ford's mock draft so maybe this was said. Also, maybe this was fake news. I have a feeling the Celtics might pick Jackson
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May 1, 2017 23:28
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Charlz Guybon posted:I have a feeling the Celtics might pick Jackson If their pick falls to #2 or #3 sure, but I have a hard time seeing them pass on Fultz considering their budget/guard situation and the :LeBron timeline:.
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May 2, 2017 00:30
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I know virtually nothing about Brown or Jackson. Can one of them play the 2 or 4?
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May 2, 2017 01:17
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ButtWolf posted:I know virtually nothing about Brown or Jackson. Can one of them play the 2 or 4? They both look like they could guard 1-4, but they're 3s at heart. I don't think Boston takes him with the #1 unless there's a trade and one or more of Smart, Brown, Crowder get moved.
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May 2, 2017 01:24
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Neither can play the 4 now, Brown could maybe if he adds muscle. Jackson should be able to play the 2 or 3. Best case scenario Jackson who would be able to create his shot by attacking the basket although you don't see much of that in the Celtics offense outside of IT. Fultz would probably be easier just to plug into that since he does a lot of what Boston already does.
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May 2, 2017 01:37
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Yeah Jackson played 4 at Kansas with the small ball thing and it was awesome to watch but there's quite a big difference between guarding a college 4 and guarding Blake Griffin. I'm a complete Kansas homer and I'd draft Fultz over Jackson and even as loathe as I am to admit it, probably Ball too.
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May 2, 2017 01:48
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kiimo posted:Yeah Jackson played 4 at Kansas with the small ball thing and it was awesome to watch but there's quite a big difference between guarding a college 4 and guarding Blake Griffin. It definitely all depends on how the lottery falls. I think any team who gets 1 should draft Fultz no matter what, but I could see a team like Minnesota or Phoenix valuing Jackson over Ball
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May 2, 2017 02:51
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ButtWolf posted:I know virtually nothing about Brown or Jackson. Can one of them play the 2 or 4? There's barely any difference between 2 and 3 and they should be able to play with one another if that's what you mean.
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May 2, 2017 03:06
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aBagorn posted:It definitely all depends on how the lottery falls. Jackson is a "criminal" so I don't think Phoenix will draft him unless Sarver somehow doesn't find out about it.
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May 2, 2017 03:11
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DeimosRising posted:There's barely any difference between 2 and 3 and they should be able to play with one another if that's what you mean. Yeah, i just equate sg's to being faster generally. Like I said, I knew nothing about them. Boston is in a tricky spot where they could trade for PG and a Robin Lopezy rebounder and contend probably. Or completely go young and prep for 4 years from now. ButtWolf fucked around with this message at 03:25 on May 2, 2017 |
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May 2, 2017 03:22
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I wouldn't hate the Celtics grabbing Ball just because he has a better chance of developing successfully off the ball next to Isaiah Thomas
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May 2, 2017 04:51
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aBagorn posted:It definitely all depends on how the lottery falls. Ainge seems like the kind of guy who'd be repelled by Ball's dad, so I don't see the Celtics taking him.
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May 2, 2017 05:23
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Charlz Guybon posted:Ainge seems like the kind of guy who'd be repelled by Ball's dad, so I don't see the Celtics taking him. Ainge and Lavar would engage in fisticuffs within the first 15 minutes of meeting each other.
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May 2, 2017 06:38
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Declan MacManus posted:I wouldn't hate the Celtics grabbing Ball just because he has a better chance of developing successfully off the ball next to Isaiah Thomas I worry that he needs so much work that the Celtics couldn't find him minutes. Although maybe the Celtics are the team that finally breaks the seal on sending top 10 players down to the D-league for regular minutes. I really do think Phoenix is the best spot for him. Booker is happy to run and can do all the halfcourt offense like a lot of Chriss's weaknesses are hidden when the Suns create tempo. I guess Bledsoe would be pissed again but when has that ever stopped Phoenix from doing something? Also Dragan Bender is against that whole running thing, which might be a more serious thing to consider.
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May 2, 2017 07:35
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Rick posted:I worry that he needs so much work that the Celtics couldn't find him minutes. Although maybe the Celtics are the team that finally breaks the seal on sending top 10 players down to the D-league for regular minutes. Didn't Memphis do that with Thabeet
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May 2, 2017 14:58
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Declan MacManus posted:I wouldn't hate the Celtics grabbing Ball just because he has a better chance of developing successfully off the ball next to Isaiah Thomas Creating with the ball is like, Lonzo Ball's best skill though?
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May 2, 2017 15:04
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Paul Zuvella posted:Creating with the ball is like, Lonzo Ball's best skill though? In transition. Not in half-court.
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May 2, 2017 15:11
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IcePhoenix posted:Didn't Memphis do that with Th*beet Don't speak his name
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IcePhoenix posted:Didn't Memphis do that with Thabeet You are right, they did.
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May 2, 2017 20:46
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Sitting here re-thinking my "Celtics need Fultz or Ball" prediction. Josh Jackson would have been clutch in that game last night and I am no longer sure you ever want to take the ball out of Thomas' hands.
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May 3, 2017 18:23
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kiimo posted:Sitting here re-thinking my "Celtics need Fultz or Ball" prediction. Josh Jackson would have been clutch in that game last night and I am no longer sure you ever want to take the ball out of Thomas' hands. I think Fultz could give you more off ball than Bradley does. Like a lot more.
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May 3, 2017 18:38
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What a shame to move Fultz off ball
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May 3, 2017 19:36
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I don't think Boston would have to move whoever they draft completely off the ball. Like the reason the Lakers have problems with this draft if they have a pick is they have Russell, Clarkson, Randle, (if he's still there) Nick Young, even Ingram right now are guys who need to be on the ball. Boston really only has IT so another guy with the ball could be perfectly fine.
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May 3, 2017 22:53
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Rick posted:I don't think Boston would have to move whoever they draft completely off the ball. Yeah, when I said off ball I didn't mean he would never handle the ball, but it would be a primary/secondary scenario
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May 3, 2017 23:01
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May 3, 2017 23:06
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euphronius posted:It only has one year left on his deal right ? IT, Bradley, and Smart deals are all up after next season.
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May 3, 2017 23:11
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Well then they better draft ball handlers lol.
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May 3, 2017 23:14
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Depending what happens down the road they may decide there is a ceiling that comes with IT due to his defensive issues and that they don't want to shell out a ton of money to keep him anyway. Fultz would at least keep that option open in addition to giving them the best prospect in the draft
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May 3, 2017 23:36
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You best believe that if the Celtics get steam rolled by the Cavs and ITs defense sucks (it will) you best believe the Celtics are not going to max out a 5'7" point guard who is going to be 30.
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Deron Williams is going to make his comeback by doing what he used to do best, bullying smaller PGs who were by all rights better than him
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May 4, 2017 16:26
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Paul Zuvella posted:You best believe that if the Celtics get steam rolled by the Cavs and ITs defense sucks (it will) you best believe the Celtics are not going to max out a 5'7" point guard who is going to be 30. Did you wanna throw a couple more best believes in there? I bet Boston throws their chequebook at Paul if they decline to re-sign Thomas, though. They have a fuckton of space.
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May 4, 2017 16:50
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MourningView posted:Paul played a huge role in renegotiating the CBA in a way that allows teams to re-sign star veterans to massive contracts I don't think he's actually gonna leave I think he was talking about Paul George?
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Kibner posted:I think he was talking about Paul George? Not sure how he'd be an alternative to Thomas and the post he quoted was talking about Thomas' limits defensively. But, maybe, i guess? MourningView fucked around with this message at 17:40 on May 4, 2017 |
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Kibner posted:I think he was talking about Paul George? Nope, meant Chris Paul. I figure Boston wants a superstar PG. Didn't know about the labour stuff though, that's interesting. That all said, I'd not rule out them pursuing George, because George can play a bunch of positions AND he gives them a #1 scoring option who can go on the rides at Six Flags. El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 17:23 on May 4, 2017 |
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MourningView posted:Not sure how he'd be an alternative to Thomas and the discussion was the post he quoted was talking about Thomas' limits defensively. But, maybe, i guess? El Gallinero Gros posted:Nope, meant Chris Paul. I figure Boston wants a superstar PG. Didn't know about the labour stuff though, that's interesting. That all said, I'd not rule out them pursuing George, because George can play a bunch of positions AND he gives them a #1 scoring option who can go on the rides at Six Flags. Oh. I thought he wanted Paul George and then draft Fultz to take Thomas' place. Shows what I know!
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Kibner posted:Oh. I thought he wanted Paul George and then draft Fultz to take Thomas' place. Shows what I know! I mean, your idea isn't bad! A core of George, Horford, and Fultz could really do some damage. Especially with how bad the East is.
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