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danbanana posted:I would definitely put this on your resume. Knowing your presence drastically increases the chances of a buyout should be a bartering point for future job opportunities. Hard to tell. They say it won't change except for the better. New equipment, better benefits, etc. Time will tell. Kaiho posted:Are you still at WW? I'm just intrigued given that they will have a presence at fests like MBCC here in Europe whether the staff attending will take a lot of flak. I'm still there for the time being. I'm sure people will talk tons of poo poo. Hell Jester King already cancelled all collabs with us.
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Josh Wow posted:Hell Jester King already cancelled all collabs with us. "gently caress this poo poo. DUMP IT, MAN!" That seems kinda hosed up. I get the (half-true) belief that it's us-against-them in this but to pull business- let alone personal- commitments because of a business decision that doesn't directly affect you? gently caress that.
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danbanana posted:"gently caress this poo poo. DUMP IT, MAN!" Their statement doesn't really come off that way. Reads as kind but firm http://jesterkingbrewery.com/blog/
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Jester King style is always kind but firm about these situations and considering they are constantly in court, it makes sense that their stance needs to be consistent.
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Josh Wow posted:I'm still there for the time being. I'm sure people will talk tons of poo poo. Hell Jester King already cancelled all collabs with us. Hang in there man, I really hope benefits etc improve, and you guys get to keep making awesome beer. My company just managed to bring some over and it's gone down super well. It really is impressive stuff.
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XxGirlKisserxX posted:What's gonna happen next is that Wicked Weed will get better at making consistent beer for a larger market and the employees will get paid more money and have better benefits. That tends to be the trend with these buyouts. that doesn't happen when craft breweries buy other craft breweries btw How many brewers stuck around at Goose after they were bought out?
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danbanana posted:"gently caress this poo poo. DUMP IT, MAN!" nah gently caress abinbev its a good decision
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Hay what do u guys think of Dogfish Head
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krustster posted:Hay what do u guys think of Dogfish Head i like that i can walk 30 seconds out of my door to drink their beer, otherwise whatever e: actually the pub exclusives have been pretty good lately
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Josh Wow posted:I think I'm cursed. 2/3 breweries I've worked at sold out. But don't worry nothing is going to change. Actually it'll be better! Thanks to Budweiser now we have access to all sorts of resources that will allow us to......... I feel for you, man. Although I've never tried Wicked Weed (hard to get it here on the west coast), I hear the beer is quite good (especially the sours). I just hope AB InBev doesn't gently caress with the quality of the beer in attempts to get mass distribution like they did with Goose Island. Goose Island's IPA used to be one of my favorites, and now I can distinctly taste a difference in it. More watered down.
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krustster posted:Hay what do u guys think of Dogfish Head Haven't bought anything of theirs since I first got into beer. Nothing they make is more appealing than local Pipeworks/Brickstone/Revolution stuff. Speaking of Brickstone, they put stickers on their can 6 packs that read 17211. I thought it was Julian but the date didn't make sense. After contacting them I found out this supposed to represent 120 days from canning (when it expires). I'm considering passing on their beer in favor of other options in the future because this obfuscation is really annoying (and wtf an IPA/APA should have a best by date of 90 days tops). Am I being a freshie babby?
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trilljester posted:I feel for you, man. Although I've never tried Wicked Weed (hard to get it here on the west coast), I hear the beer is quite good (especially the sours). I just hope AB InBev doesn't gently caress with the quality of the beer in attempts to get mass distribution like they did with Goose Island. Goose Island's IPA used to be one of my favorites, and now I can distinctly taste a difference in it. More watered down. I hear stuff like this a lot, but having tried them before, Goose's mainstream beer sucked pre buyout, now it just sucks in more places and with better competition. AB has followed a pretty consistent playbook with these breweries - scale up some of their more mass market beers and bring them into wider areas or round out their "Craft Beer Tap Package" that they offer to sports bars, let the breweries keep doing their thing making their barrel aged/sour/whatever the gently caress small batch stuff and get a chunk of the money from both. Usually it's a winwin and the Goose Island model has proven it - People bitch and moan but BCBS sales keep going up exponentially, and now Goose IPA and 312 are on at every Hooters in the country. $$$ for everyone involved. Beer nerds bitch but will keep lining up for walezbro, and non-nerds just buy the stuff that's on at every tap now since they started getting into dark beers like IPA. I don't hardline on buyout beer, I generally try to avoid it and prefer the local option if at all possible. But it's a bummer to see one of the brands with more legit credibility going the corporate route. Firestone has tended to gently not invite breweries to FWIBF once they're AB, I'm wondering if Wicked Weed will get booted off the list for this year or just quietly not invited for 2018.
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MunchE posted:I hear stuff like this a lot, but having tried them before, Goose's mainstream beer sucked pre buyout, now it just sucks in more places and with better competition. It's winwin for everyone except the breweries who now don't get a tap handle because AB replaced them with an AB beer in that craft beer tap package down at the local sports bar. The Philly ballpark is an excellent example of watching tap handles that used to go to other stuff wind up on GI kegs instead. gently caress AB. It's nice for WW that AB won't be loving around with them, but AB's whole thing is to buy a big craft brewer in each market and use that to leverage their way into controlling more of that local market. It's fundamentally not good for craft beer and I won't drink an AB brand now if there's an alternative. I liked WW's sours but oh well, Highway Manor's pouring as well so I'll drink that instead.
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Phanatic posted:It's winwin for everyone except the breweries who now don't get a tap handle because AB replaced them with an AB beer in that craft beer tap package down at the local sports bar. The Philly ballpark is an excellent example of watching tap handles that used to go to other stuff wind up on GI kegs instead. I don't disagree with you and it's why I actively try to buy local options whenever possible. Just looking at the reality of it there's no real loss for the brewery taking the buyout. TBH, the only thing they lose is their street cred, and based on the behavior of Golden Road/Breckenridge/10 Barrel with their PR tour it's kind of embarrassing how they really thought they could just take the buyout and keep all of their "We're part of a small community!" perks. But two things that always pop up during this poo poo bug me: "OMG THE BEER IS RUINED NOW" which is rarely the case and most of the time the beer that was widely distroed was already pretty poo poo Those same people whining that the beer is ruined now not batting an eye to lineup for the next batch of whalez from that same brewery
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trilljester posted:I feel for you, man. Although I've never tried Wicked Weed (hard to get it here on the west coast), I hear the beer is quite good (especially the sours). I just hope AB InBev doesn't gently caress with the quality of the beer in attempts to get mass distribution like they did with Goose Island. Goose Island's IPA used to be one of my favorites, and now I can distinctly taste a difference in it. More watered down. there's a now-infrequent poster who brewed at GI and i remember him posting that they couldn't tell the difference between the GI- and AB-brewed beers; AB makes "bad" beers because that's what sells, not because they're not genius brewers
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funkybottoms posted:there's a now-infrequent poster who brewed at GI and i remember him posting that they couldn't tell the difference between the GI- and AB-brewed beers; AB makes "bad" beers because that's what sells, not because they're not genius brewers Well yeah with their light lagers if you screw up it's going to be pretty easy to notice it.
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goferchan posted:lol ok this is ridiculous 
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goferchan posted:lol ok this is ridiculous That picture is from a Colorado store. The beer department manager there used to work at one of the best beer stores in my town. This was probably half joking/a way to get some attention for his store, and chances are most of that stuff would have gone on clearance soon anyway. Wicked Weed made a huge push into Colorado last fall and besides a few limited barrel aged beers their stuff does not sell. I've seen a lot of their beer on clearance around town. Everything i've had from them I thought wasn't anything special, and a lot of it was not worth the price. Bought some when it first showed up, haven't bought any since.
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Monk's does the same thing. They'll be doing a fire sale on all their Wicked Weed soon enough. At least they're consistent.
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funkybottoms posted:there's a now-infrequent poster who brewed at GI and i remember him posting that they couldn't tell the difference between the GI- and AB-brewed beers; AB makes "bad" beers because that's what sells, not because they're not genius brewers I've found some less than two week old Elysian Space Dust IPA here in Florida. I never had the original to compare it to, but it's loving delicious. I doubt it could have been too much better before. I haven't really heard or read any definitive proof of any of the beers they've started making that have been seriously altered. People's palates change. Two Hearted doesn't taste as good to me as it did in 2007, but that's because I've had about 25,000 IPA's since I first had a Two Hearted. Same with Pliny the Elder.
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Yep, Petrol Station in Houston posted about how they ordered a keg of recurrant and cancelled the delivery first thing yesterday morning. So far only six breweries have pulled out of WW's festival and I bet that will pick up.
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XxGirlKisserxX posted:
While that's true, Goose IPA definitely changed in flavor and aroma when they took production to huge scales.
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Heineken bought the remaining 50% of Lagunitas: http://lagunitast.tumblr.com/ Who wants to take bets on which hazy NEIPA brewery sells out first? https://twitter.com/jalaffler/status/860166825505632256 and lol at Rare Barrel literally pouring one out for the homies air- fucked around with this message at 17:29 on May 4, 2017 |
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Breaking footage of Tony when he was confronted about selling out!!
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Who's in tune with KC breweries these days? Headed down there with friends this weekend — here's the list we assembled and would like to narrow down: Brewery Emperial Calibration Cinder Block — been here; was OK Crane — will probably go; never been + interesting stuff, like a beet weiss Double Shift KC Bier Company — also been a few times, but will stop b/c proximity to a friend Martin City Rock & Run — hell of an outlier, but... Torn Label Will also stop at Bier Station, I'm sure. E: I don't doubt it. We get kegs of theirs from time to time. \/\/ Real Name Grover fucked around with this message at 20:48 on May 4, 2017 |
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Are there any breweries near Chicago that you guys think would be up next to sell out? I have a hunch there is at least one big company looking up around that way for a craft brand.
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americanzero4128 posted:Hope I'm not too late for this, but you're kinda by me! Just go to Bavarian Lodge in Lisle, right off of Ogden Avenue. You won't need to go anywhere else. Thank you for the suggestion! My coworker and I went to Bavarian Lodge last night and crushed a bunch of Zombie Dust which is what got me into craft beer (and I drank some other awesome beers of course). XxGirlKisserxX posted:People's palates change. Two Hearted doesn't taste as good to me as it did in 2007, but that's because I've had about 25,000 IPA's since I first had a Two Hearted. Same with Pliny the Elder. How I felt about Zombie Dust last night, it's still an awesome beer but did not live up to my memories of it. ZD will always have a special place in my heart though.
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Lyon posted:How I felt about Zombie Dust last night, it's still an awesome beer but did not live up to my memories of it. ZD will always have a special place in my heart though. I recently picked up a couple sixers that were ~3 days old and was thoroughly unimpressed. Hopefully it was just an off batch because I'll be a little bummed if it truly is that mediocre compared to more modern offerings.
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Spanish Manlove posted:Goose Island is going to double down They kinda did. After the sale Greg Hall left Goose Island and started Virtue Cider which he ended up selling to ABINBEV as well.
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Josh Wow posted:They kinda did. After the sale Greg Hall left Goose Island and started Virtue Cider which he ended up selling to ABINBEV as well. dude is probably rich af though
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funkybottoms posted:dude is probably rich af though He had to sell Virtue because he was in massive debt to his suppliers.
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funkybottoms posted:there's a now-infrequent poster who brewed at GI and i remember him posting that they couldn't tell the difference between the GI- and AB-brewed beers; AB makes "bad" beers because that's what sells, not because they're not genius brewers Oh definitely. They're excellent brewers, they've got that part of the process mastered. I think my palate has changed significantly since the first time I had a GI IPA, maybe that's why I thought it's gotten worse. Mainly I just consider it a boring IPA, nothing that makes me go "wow".
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LeafHouse posted:I recently picked up a couple sixers that were ~3 days old and was thoroughly unimpressed. Hopefully it was just an off batch because I'll be a little bummed if it truly is that mediocre compared to more modern offerings. It's a good single hop Citra pale ale. Not a lot of magic to wring out of that formula. Lots of all citra beers became hypewhalez when Citra was a new hop because people loving love Citra. Takes a long time for hype to die down so most of them still are hypewhalez. Pseudo Sue (and King Sue for that matter), Zombie Dust, Kern River's Citra beer - all great single hop citra beers, but that's a lot less remarkable when there are tons of other great single hop citra beers on the shelf. trilljester posted:Oh definitely. They're excellent brewers, they've got that part of the process mastered. I think my palate has changed significantly since the first time I had a GI IPA, maybe that's why I thought it's gotten worse. Mainly I just consider it a boring IPA, nothing that makes me go "wow". This is 100% what has happened. Just like Fat Tire and Rogue Dead Guy and Pyramid Hefe haven't gotten worse - people try these beers early on and they blow their mind, and once they have tasted more varieties of beer they realize they weren't all that novel.
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Josh Wow posted:Hard to tell. They say it won't change except for the better. New equipment, better benefits, etc. Time will tell. Are you at the funkatorium or the other location? I'm going to Asheville in a few weeks.
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U guys ever notice how mosaic hops have a weird taste that can be kind of gross sometimes? I had a local dipa from Lone Pine called Tessellation (mosaic single hop) and the first time I tasted it, it had a weird boozy/syrupy and almost acrid hop taste that was not great. I think danbanana called it "hop-ohol" a while back. But to ight I had a couple and it just tasted fruity and juicy and earthy and all that other poo poo. Same batch, same 4-pack, but that's a weird hops. Also lagunitas born again yesterday would be the perfect daily drinker if it wasn't such a rarely released tape.
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XxGirlKisserxX posted:I haven't really heard or read any definitive proof of any of the beers they've started making that have been seriously altered. People's palates change. Two Hearted doesn't taste as good to me as it did in 2007, but that's because I've had about 25,000 IPA's since I first had a Two Hearted. Same with Pliny the Elder. I think this is true just in general. I finally got a bottle of Pliny when I went on a work trip to SD, and while it was really good, I felt like it was especially good for 2010, and I could find similarly good things where I live on the East Coast. The proliferation of craft beer is a great and terrible thing, that has slayed whalez and palates across the world.
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