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Harrow posted:I think I would like Tales games more if I could turn off voices in battles specifically. I wanna hear the battle music, not wall-to-wall attack name shouts. wtf is wrong with you that's the best part DEMON FANG DEMON FANG SHINING DRAGON SWARM!!!!
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My favorite will always be Rita w/ Overdrive in Tales of Vesperia. "Blahblahblah, TIDAL WAVE!"
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I liked in the PS1/PS2 era where they'd cheap out on voice acting by taking story dialogue and cutting it apart to turn it into combat yells and victory quotes.
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the generic battle music in tales usually isn't really anything to write home about so it's not like you're missing anything
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I haven't seen a "persona isn't actually anime" discussion in the wild before but good job everyone.
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an actual dog posted:I haven't seen a "persona isn't actually anime" discussion in the wild before but good job everyone. Wait, who said that? Because it's super anime. It's just that its visual style is able to look anime without being ugly or plastic, like recent Star Ocean games have been, or Xenoblade Chronicles X.
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May 4, 2017 16:22
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The Colonel posted:the generic battle music in tales usually isn't really anything to write home about so it's not like you're missing anything What is worth writing home about, honestly. Dear mom, hope everything is well with you and the family. How are the cats doing? Just got a promotion at work, tell you more about it when I come down for Thanksgiving. Oh by the way, there's this video game I'm playing and I have to say, the generic battle music is amazing. Well anyway, things are very busy around here as usual. Talk to you soon, love you.
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exquisite tea posted:What is worth writing home about, honestly. i mean, the generic battle music in tales of legendia is amazing
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Harrow posted:Wait, who said that? Because it's super anime. It's just that its visual style is able to look anime without being ugly or plastic, like recent Star Ocean games have been, or Xenoblade Chronicles X. Any 3D game that goes for an anime style without using cel shading is just going to look abominable. It doesn't work.
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Harrow posted:I suspect either would work, though I think most people are going for the former right now. yeah i'd go with the former. biggest "i'm sorry i let people talk me into wasting my time on this" undertale my opinion of it is as negative as my opinion about mother 3 is positive biggest "i'm sorry i spent money on this" tales of zestiria but at least i got tales of symphonia for free out of it biggest "i'm sorry i wasted my friends' time by buying this for us to play" tie: unepic, magicite two games in two largely different genres that share the same problems of imprecise platforming, terrible controls, and an unforgiving learning curve that makes you suffer just to be a dick Lakbay posted:wtf is wrong with you that's the best part it was better when special attacks were, y'know, special. i get that mp (tp) management is lovely, put the things on cooldown or make your magic regen fast based on how long it's been since you used a skill + the number of regular hits you've done in the meantime. when every single attack in the game has a callout, it loses its charm 
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I honestly don't have that many goongrets. I usually don't end up outright disliking all that many games (it's honestly mystifying to me how many goons just seem to hate everything or even generally have nothing to play when there's so much out) and really I'm usually the one recommending the game everyone else seems to not like. The only game goons swear by that I recall really not liking was Shadow of Mordor but that was hyped everywhere and me disliking it had far more to do with it not being my type of game. On another note, I wish I had played Wonder Boy Dragon's Trap back in the day because this new version is my first experience with it and while it's really good, it also has some extremely rough edges that some rose colored glasses would probably smooth over entirely but as is the jank is holding back the game from being great. It's a weird combo to have a game that does a complete gorgeous overhaul of all the graphics yet make it so the gameplay is mostly untouched. It creates this odd disconnect between how the game looks and how it plays. It's still a good game though
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Harrow posted:I think I would like Tales games more if I could turn off voices in battles specifically. I wanna hear the battle music, not wall-to-wall attack name shouts. I feel like you can actually do this but then I've also played a ton of Tales games and I'm sure at least one of them lets you do it and it's probably not whatever one you're playing now, just to spite any advice I could give.
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Games that are not anime: Persona Any Kojima game Hail to the Chimp Anime games: Kriss Kross: Make my Video Urbz: Sims in the City Dark Soul
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an actual dog posted:I haven't seen a "persona isn't actually anime" discussion in the wild before but good job everyone. literally nobody is saying this. there's just a huge gulf in the quality of persona games versus the gross doll faces in things like XCX. Games like Fire Emblem do this, too--the art style is eons above other stuff.
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Spoderman posted:Games that are not anime: Not even listing the most anime games https://twitter.com/PackBenPack/status/859129424645505024
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Lurdiak posted:Any 3D game that goes for an anime style without using cel shading is just going to look abominable. It doesn't work. 
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glam rock hamhock posted:The only game goons swear by that I recall really not liking was Shadow of Mordor but that was hyped everywhere and me disliking it had far more to do with it not being my type of game. i'm not sure what my problem was with shadow of mordor, i think it's the setting. i just can't get into lotr for whatever reason. the rest of the game was pretty cool aside from the whole thing where it's more effective and more cinematic to do finishers on orcs, so i never really got to see the rivalry system ramp up. it did feel a little bit budget coming off of ac:black flag, too.
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Other games that translate anime style into 3D well include the two most recent 3D Zelda games, especially Breath of the Wild. Like Persona 5, it uses some pseudo-cel shading techniques, and as a result the characters look like they could be in an anime while also looking good in a 3D game.Lurdiak posted:Any 3D game that goes for an anime style without using cel shading is just going to look abominable. It doesn't work. Yeah, you're probably right. If not actual cel shading, then a style approaching that. Persona 5 isn't strictly cel shaded, but it uses a lot of those techniques so that the characters look like, well, anime characters instead of poorly-made plastic figures of anime characters.
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May 4, 2017 16:26
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I'm saying it's not anime because I like it.
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May 4, 2017 16:28
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This one screenshot is so JRPG it hurts.
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Isn't that crazy Guilty Gear game not cel shaded, but rather 3D models?
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Star Ocean 2 was so cool and good, why'd the series have to dive so thoroughly off a cliff after that  Nate RFB posted:Isn't that crazy Guilty Gear game not cel shaded, but rather 3D models? Cel shading does use 3D models, but it uses flat colors and sharp shadows to make them look like they're animated in 2D.
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the hosed up part is i don't even think star ocean 3 looks that bad and that's probably just because star ocean 4 is on a completely different level star ocean, is a very bad series
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The White Dragon posted:i'm not sure what my problem was with shadow of mordor, i think it's the setting. i just can't get into lotr for whatever reason. the rest of the game was pretty cool aside from the whole thing where it's more effective and more cinematic to do finishers on orcs, so i never really got to see the rivalry system ramp up. it did feel a little bit budget coming off of ac:black flag, too. My biggest issue with SoM was the protagonist, just super boring and no personality to speak of. I don't know why they thought he was interesting enough to keep around for the sequel.
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Persona is anime as gently caress but it also has care put into its writing and tries to create actual characters and is only like 10% embarrassing fan service rather than the more typical 90%. Things can be anime as gently caress and still be good but it requires a lot of actual care. Stein's Gate is essentially a harem dating game but they actually put care into the writing and characters so it's still actually good and the whole "harem anime" aspect sort of fades to the background and becomes unimportant. Hell, in that game I was really impressed that like two or three of the endings went to extreme lengths to make them make sense within the narrative if you really wanted to end up with a girl that narratively didn't make all that much sense.
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Nate RFB posted:Isn't that crazy Guilty Gear game not cel shaded, but rather 3D models? xrd uses 3d models but it uses a lot of camera and lighting tricks to make it look 2d and it looks really really great
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I liked Star Ocean 2 and 3. 4 was bad and I didn't play 5.
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Mordja posted:To be perfectly fair, Cinema Discusso is the last place you should be looking for movie recommendations. If you like movies you should check out Blockbuster Video (forum and store)
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if you haven't played star ocean 5, imagine continuing to go on without having played star ocean 5 and i think you'll get basically the same experience as if you had played star ocean 5
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The White Dragon posted:i'm not sure what my problem was with shadow of mordor, i think it's the setting. i just can't get into lotr for whatever reason. the rest of the game was pretty cool aside from the whole thing where it's more effective and more cinematic to do finishers on orcs, so i never really got to see the rivalry system ramp up. it did feel a little bit budget coming off of ac:black flag, too. I'm just not the type that likes loving around directionlessly in an open world all that much and from what I can tell that's where most of the awesome comes from in that game. I'm pretty sure I'd be fairly underwhelmed by Just Cause as well for similar reasons.
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The White Dragon posted:it was better when special attacks were, y'know, special. i get that mp (tp) management is lovely, put the things on cooldown or make your magic regen fast based on how long it's been since you used a skill + the number of regular hits you've done in the meantime. when every single attack in the game has a callout, it loses its charm Yeah, save the callouts for the truly special attacks. The constant chatter just gets on my nerves while also making each individual "this is my super attack! ATTACK NAME!" callout less cool Like I want to play Tales of Berseria but after watching a few videos I'm not sure I could put up with that cacophony for the duration of a full JRPG.
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smh if you don't want to hear "bird is the word!" or "sharing is caring" two dozen times in a battle.
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Macarius Wrench posted:Its not even that for me, the world's fine, I like the idea of multiple playthroughs, the overall artistic design is great, the genre mash up is amazing but to experience all that you need to slog through a combat system devoid of charm or finesse or even meaning. The game was more fun for me playing on easy and having the combat sections literally play themselves. There is barely an actual GAME in there. The combat is great if you played on Hard where a single mistake kills you. Makes traversal feel really dangerous and exciting
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Healbot posted:I'm saying it's not anime because I like it. It's too late; The Anime is under your skin now While we're on the subject of regretful game purchases and Anime- Star Ocean: End of Time was the first and last Star Ocean game I tried playing. I made it like 4 or 5 hours in and decided I hated it and stopped. Not too many games I can remember where I just went "haaaa, nope" and this was back in the day when I had no money and more time than I knew what to do with.
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Real talk, probably my biggest goongret was the Vita Ridge Racer game. There was just way too much DLC, and the game felt more like a mobile game than a full fledged Ridge Racer. It didn't feel like a must-have Vita title to me.
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I feel like the punishment for dying in Nier:A is too great for me to want to play on Hard.
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Persona 5 is the best jrpg of all time
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Nate RFB posted:I feel like the punishment for dying in Nier:A is too great for me to want to play on Hard. Hard is way too hard, every enemy hit takes more than half your health. I can't imagine putting up with it for long enough to find upgrades to alleviate that.
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I'm sorry I couldn't come up with a better word than goongret everyone
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