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DirtyRobot posted:This isn't rules-related, but my biggest fear about the potential new bigmarines is that instead of just being bigger space marines, they will be an awful and weird mix of the 40k Roboute Guilliman model and AOS Sigmarines. The 40k Guilliman model is great because the design of it screams taking the regular Jes Goodwin marine to a designer and saying "okay, but make it cooler" with no direction every time they come back with a revision and repeating like 7 times.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:This is good and important. But we also need Kharn as a one man kill team.
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TheChirurgeon posted:They're doing a preview of the new terrain kit on twitch right now. Apparently the crane kit comes with extra bits to turn the cargo containers into a train That's.... awesome? Like enough bits in one kit to make how many train cars?
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Artum posted:The 40k Guilliman model is great because the design of it screams taking the regular Jes Goodwin marine to a designer and saying "okay, but make it cooler" with no direction every time they come back with a revision and repeating like 7 times. Like it or not, you can't claim that armour has no direction. In the fluff it is a suit built by Arch Magos Cawl as both life support and combat armour. In the physical model you can read definite and clear design language from the Ad Mech range, blended with elements of traditional power armour styles to convey this. That is why it is so atypical. It's a fusion of two styles. I honestly think it was quite cleverly handled as opposed to just making a bigly suit of MkVII or whatever.
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Can I trust you? Of course, this is new Games Workshop!
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May 4, 2017 16:48
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TKIY posted:That's.... awesome? Good question. They only assembled one, and you'd also need the shipping containers kit. I suspect one, but the tractor and crane clip together as well, so what they showed was at least 3 cars long lol that is some unfortunate wording
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From Jervis on Twitch today:quote:- V8 was made broad and flexible (3 way of playing)
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TheChirurgeon posted:Good question. They only assembled one, and you'd also need the shipping containers kit. I suspect one, but the tractor and crane clip together as well, so what they showed was at least 3 cars long TKIY posted:From Jervis on Twitch today:
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Yeah, that sure is the definition of a non-answer. Also, I seriously hope the starter release won't be Dark Vengeance 2.0. I looked that set up and yeesh.
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Dark Vengeance was an awesome box. Assuming you aren't racist against Dark Angels it's the best starter they've done in ages. But no, the next starter is almost certainly vanilla marines vs Nurgle plague marines.
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Here's the tactical, paint scheme done. Still gotta add transfers to him and drybrush the base, but overall I'm really happy with it. I included a shot of the terminator for comparison. Also, fun fact - Martian Ironearth and Martian Ironcrust are not the same thing.      and the terminator 
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I like it. The red definitely draws the eye, but the metallic grey looks great. In other news, GW customer support just gave me my codex voucher despite my proof of purchase being my store manager confirming that I bought the codex, so that is pretty cool of them. I immediately spent it on a Deathleaper. Worse comes to worse, they don't give the Lictor Shadow War rules and I just have a cool model to paint. I'm still tempted to repose it though.
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That's a cool marine. All chainswords should have hazard stripes on them tbh
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:Dark Vengeance was an awesome box. Assuming you aren't racist against Dark Angels it's the best starter they've done in ages. I'm more racist against heavily imbalanced force comps as a newcomer's intro, really. The models for DV themselves actually look pretty kickass.
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FiestaNinja posted:That's a cool marine. All chainswords should have hazard stripes on them tbh A warning for everyone - the person you're cutting apart with it, the person wielding it, everyone. I want to do some Mk. III Assault marines and plan on all their chainswords being hazard striped.
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Thundercloud posted:In model terms it's a great box. drat, that's good to know. I might have to pick up a box this weekend and start painting, nicely coincides with me getting more time off in flight school!
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So I just bought a Necrons starter kit with 12 warriors, 1 lord, 3 swarms and one of those spider robots plus a codex. I haven't played anything Warhammer related for 10+ years, but just moved and want to get involved in the minature community here. Is this a good time to start collecting and playing again? Are necrons an alright force?
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TKIY posted:What are you using for the base metallic grey? Rattlecan Leadbelcher followed by 3 washes of Nuln Oil.
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GET INTO DA CHOPPA posted:So I just bought a Necrons starter kit with 12 warriors, 1 lord, 3 swarms and one of those spider robots plus a codex. I haven't played anything Warhammer related for 10+ years, but just moved and want to get involved in the minature community here. Did the codex come with the kit? If not, you should see if you can get the codex returned for a voucher. A new edition is coming and current codexes aren't going to apply anymore. The new rules sound real promising so far, so now could be a good time to start playing, but they should all hit by June. Assembling and painting your 'crons can probably keep you good on the collecting aspect until then, I'd say.
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Zuul the Cat posted:Sexy Spess Muhreens That chainsword is
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For now, I would just focus on building and painting. There is a new edition coming probably within a month, and it is changing everything. Neurons will probably still be good though. You have until tomorrow to see if you can get a voucher for that codex. Email a pic of it, and the receipt as well as an explaination that you didn't know the new edition was coming to GW customer support. They are pretty cool, and you will probably get a voucher, but do it by tomorrow.
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GET INTO DA CHOPPA posted:So I just bought a Necrons starter kit with 12 warriors, 1 lord, 3 swarms and one of those spider robots plus a codex. I haven't played anything Warhammer related for 10+ years, but just moved and want to get involved in the minature community here. Being that there is a brand new edition coming out, in about 1-2 months with a complete reboot of all rules..... no-one knows! But Necrons are cool so you should be fine.
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jadebullet posted:For now, I would just focus on building and painting. There is a new edition coming probably within a month, and it is changing everything. Neurons will probably still be good though. For reference, I've moved to Sweden, and I didn't buy it directly from Games Workshop, but rather a webshop that sells all kind of games. Still worth a shot?
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GET INTO DA CHOPPA posted:For reference, I've moved to Sweden, and I didn't buy it directly from Games Workshop, but rather a webshop that sells all kind of games. Still worth a shot? If GW doesn't accept the receipt, then I'd write the webshop and explain the situation. At least one of those two would hopefully be able to help, especially if the book is still in good condition.
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TKIY posted:From Jervis on Twitch today: Good stuff. They also did an interview with someone from the terrain studio (these guys do all the dice, terrain, anything that isn't mans or books, basically). Here's what I remember from watching it: GW terrain studio dude posted:- They're working on doing more buildings and non-ruins terrain, "we wanted to show more of what the daily life of an Imperial citizen might look like"
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Soulfucker posted:I respectfully disagree with your point here. As S.J. points out, a competitive ruleset would be good because not only would it balance things out at the tournament scene, it would also help people who play casually like you and me by virtue of making it easier to balance army lists. I play Nids as well in my local meta and I also win games with them, however this isn't indicative of how good the army is as a whole (at least they aren't Orks). I agree that the rules need to be more balanced to make the things easier to build balanced list. I disagree that you need to make a game "competitive" in order to have good rules for casual players. Take something like D&D, there is nothing competitive about that game and yet it is still a fun game to play with your friends. This game is really good for people like me who just want to play with their space barbies. I get to build them, paint them, make them their little doll house and play make believe with my friends. 40k is pretty much American Girl for man children, That is what this game has been good at for 20+ years. The down side to designing your game with tournament competitive play is that it attracts a lot of people to the game that are not particularly good for the community. I AM NOT SAYING EVERYONE WHO PLAYS COMPETITIVE 40K IS AN rear end in a top hat. What I am saying is the only people I have meet playing 40k that give me the willies and I avoid at all cost are people who are extremely competitive, look to manipulate the rules to gain what ever advantage they can, and are mean, rude, and sometimes offensive to other players (this is not me mistaking poo poo talk as anything more, these people are jerks). I am sure most people have a story about "that guy" at their store who drives other people away, I would be willing to wager that guy is a competitive player. Let Magic or Infinity have those folks and focus on what you do well, Space Barbies.
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Zuul the Cat posted:Rattlecan Leadbelcher followed by 3 washes of Nuln Oil. Do you apply black spray before the leadbelcher or does it also work as a primer?
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New terrain is A-Okay with me. I think GW terrain is actually pretty reasonably costed for what you get, especially with the level of modularity it offers. You can make some pretty crazy custom stuff out of it, and still keep the same look and feel as the standard kits. Except the spikey bits, gently caress them.
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GreenMarine posted:Do you apply black spray before the leadbelcher or does it also work as a primer? Nope, just straight leadbelcher right onto the plastic. I'm assuming it's a primer. I haven't had any problems with paint sticking.
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Zuul the Cat posted:Rattlecan Leadbelcher followed by 3 washes of Nuln Oil. Looks great! p.s. I'm totally stealing your idea but going green instead of orange to make early Heresy traitor Dusk Raiders: 
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Broken Record Talk posted:New terrain is A-Okay with me. I think GW terrain is actually pretty reasonably costed for what you get, especially with the level of modularity it offers. You can make some pretty crazy custom stuff out of it, and still keep the same look and feel as the standard kits. Yeah the new Shadow War terrain is very solid, and outside of a couple of "meh" kits that I just wouldn't buy regardless of price, I agree that their terrain is reasonably-priced--especially the city stuff (not a fan of the cityfight table though--too busy). I also agree with "gently caress the spikey bits" though. The spikes on the buttresses in the city terrain kits are loving needle-sharp
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I can't figure out how the same team that is making those cranes also made the Deathworld plant abominations.
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My problem with the SWA terrain is that you just need so much of it for a 4x4 table. There's a photo showing two sets together, and there is so much open space on that table. Granted, the NM terrain wasn't table filling either, but I think it offered a bit more cover (and coverage.) Maybe it's the fact that it doesn't have as many levels, but it just feels lacking to me.
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TKIY posted:I can't figure out how the same team that is making those cranes also made the Deathworld plant abominations. Some of them are alright. I'm not wild about the needle plants but I like the mouth trees. I bought the set for BuffaloChicken as a gift because he has an eldar temple/deathworld table and I hate him and wanted him to have to agonize over where to store new terrain and I was also surprised at how *large* the kit was. Like even if you don't love the terrain itself, it comes with a shitload of it. But yeah the Shadow war stuff blows it out of the water. I think the Deathworld stuff needed to be visually more like the old jungle sprues they made during 3rd edition--there aren't enough leaves on the trees in the kit. berzerkmonkey posted:My problem with the SWA terrain is that you just need so much of it for a 4x4 table. There's a photo showing two sets together, and there is so much open space on that table. Granted, the NM terrain wasn't table filling either, but I think it offered a bit more cover (and coverage.) Maybe it's the fact that it doesn't have as many levels, but it just feels lacking to me. I agree with this too. I love the new kits but it takes a _lot_ to make a really solid table, especially if you want to create multiple levels. It's a hard problem to solve without spending a shitload of money or custom building stuff. TheChirurgeon fucked around with this message at 18:32 on May 4, 2017 |
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Thanks for the quick replies, guys. This thread moves a lot faster than I am used to. I emailed both the store and GW directly. Hopefully it is sorted one way or the other.  I'm assuming core troops stay more or less the same between editions, so spending the next months assembling the set, painting it and filling with more necron warriors if I run out of things to do would be safe until 8th edition is released?
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GET INTO DA CHOPPA posted:Thanks for the quick replies, guys. This thread moves a lot faster than I am used to. Yes, you should be fine with Necron Warriors.
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