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Azhais posted:http://nesn.com/2017/05/this-espn-fantasy-football-scoring-change-could-greatly-affect-your-league/  I've been pissed off about this for literally yearsshaking with rage since 2013 e. They're still counting the ensuing PAT, lol yes it's the D/ST's fault if that PAT is made.
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Azhais posted:http://nesn.com/2017/05/this-espn-fantasy-football-scoring-change-could-greatly-affect-your-league/ About time.
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Leperflesh posted:e. They're still counting the ensuing PAT, lol yes it's the D/ST's fault if that PAT is made. At least the defense is actually on the field when it's scored.
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RCarr posted:At least the defense is actually on the field when it's scored. Sure, and if they block it they should get credit. But if you lose a game because your D/ST gave up exactly enough points to hit the next scoring drop you won't be too happy about it. I mean it actually doesn't affect me at all any more because I only play IDP leagues now. But it's funny that ESPN took this long to make the rule change, given I'm pretty sure all the others (NFL, Yahoo, maybe CBS) already did it right and have been for years.
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Azhais posted:http://nesn.com/2017/05/this-espn-fantasy-football-scoring-change-could-greatly-affect-your-league/ gently caress yes.
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Azhais posted:http://nesn.com/2017/05/this-espn-fantasy-football-scoring-change-could-greatly-affect-your-league/ Only took them laying off 100 people to finally figure it out spanky69 fucked around with this message at 18:50 on May 4, 2017 |
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spanky69 posted:Only took them laying off 100 people to finally figure it out Must have been one person in charge of it that kept it from happening. Now that he is gone the ff developers are going to make BIG CHANGES
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Leperflesh posted:e. They're still counting the ensuing PAT, lol yes it's the D/ST's fault if that PAT is made. That's pretty standard and understandable imo, still took way too long for them to put this in. D/ST is for lightweights though IDP or bust so v  v
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Alright gentlemen: Marcus Mariota Jameis Winston I kinda feel like Winston and Mariota could both end up in the top seven, if not the top six. I'm higher on Mariota because of his hot 8 game stretch last season throwing to Rishard Mathews and Tajae Sharpe (RIP). Corey Davis is better than both of them combined, and they got Taywan Taylor too. Winston has all the weapons to succeed but he may not despite himself. I hate Winston's ball placement so much that I am biased against him vs. Mariota, but I can't deny the weapons they have now and Winston's ability to gunslang it is light years ahead of Mariota. Winston would need to take a huge step forward to get up to Mariota levels of ball protection (Mariota's INT rate is 2.3% compared to Jameis' 3.0%).Mariota also has a higher TD rate, too (5.5% vs 4.5%). I think at this point Mariota is just the better player, but Winston has everything he needs to succeed. Jameis has better raw yards and TD though. They should both be interesting this year, I think. My hot take is that Mariota ends up top-five at the position, with Brees and/or Ryan falling out of the top five.
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Spoeank posted:I think at this point Mariota is just the better player, but Winston has everything he needs to succeed.
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Spoeank posted:Alright gentlemen: Ryan is a prime candidate to get overdrafted. I think losing Shanahan is going to cut down the offensive numbers in Atlanta across the board. Mariota is my preferred prospect of the two, because he can just straight up dominate at times. I feel like his highs are higher than Winston's and his lows are higher too. He's an interesting combination of safer and more explosive. EDIT: I decided to look and see if my feeling was right. So even though Winston beats out Mariota in yards, Mariota gained 7.6 yards per attempt, putting him in the top ten for quarterbacks. Winston averaged 7.2 YPA. Moreover, despite throwing the ball 25% more times, Mariota had more big plays. 50 plays to 43 plays of 20+ yard passes and 7 plays compared to 4 plays of 40+ yard passes. That's an 11% chance to have a play of 20 yards or more, compared to 7.5%. I haven't even looked over his rushing totals. This just made me mad that I traded Mariota two years ago in my dynasty league for the corpse of Marshawn Lynch. 
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Sataere posted:Ryan is a prime candidate to get overdrafted. I think losing Shanahan is going to cut down the offensive numbers in Atlanta across the board. I have to wonder a bit if Erotic Smashmouth will keep Mariota's counting stats low despite better rates. I'm not sure I'd expect much change this year, just because I don't think rookie WRs are going to change it all in year 1.
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Ben Nevis posted:I have to wonder a bit if Erotic Smashmouth will keep Mariota's counting stats low despite better rates. I'm not sure I'd expect much change this year, just because I don't think rookie WRs are going to change it all in year 1. I think he will be better this year, but not significantly better. I think in two to three years, he could realistically see top tier status. I also think year two of Derrick Henry and Tajae Sharpe will help and I don't think we can assume rookie receivers just won't contribute right away anymore. The last few years have shown that the learning curve for these guys is significantly less steep than it was even five years ago.
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Sataere posted:I think he will be better this year, but not significantly better. I think in two to three years, he could realistically see top tier status. It's not that I don't think rookies will contribute, just that I'm not sure adding rookies is enough to overcome the 100+ attempt deficit he faces. At least not this year.
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Ben Nevis posted:I have to wonder a bit if Erotic Smashmouth will keep Mariota's counting stats low despite better rates. I'm not sure I'd expect much change this year, just because I don't think rookie WRs are going to change it all in year 1. This is kinda where I am. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Mariota is a legit QB1 who can win you a league with a good draft, but I would be really surprised if he ends up higher than like QB7 unless he does some crazy Cam stuff on the ground. The per attempt numbers will definitely be there, but I'm not so sure about the counting stats
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Teemu Pokemon posted:This is kinda where I am. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Mariota is a legit QB1 who can win you a league with a good draft, but I would be really surprised if he ends up higher than like QB7 unless he does some crazy Cam stuff on the ground. The per attempt numbers will definitely be there, but I'm not so sure about the counting stats I think the nice thing about him is he was pretty consistent for most of last year. He is definitely one of the guys I am targeting in the middle rounds. I think the nice thing about the way Tennessee is built is they are making it easy for him to be successful.
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Sataere posted:I think the nice thing about him is he was pretty consistent for most of last year. He is definitely one of the guys I am targeting in the middle rounds. I think the nice thing about the way Tennessee is built is they are making it easy for him to be successful. I think that's somewhat true. He doesn't seem like a guy who's going to lose you any games. In general, I'd pick a 4k+ yard passer though, and I don't think that's Mariota this year.
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If his ADP is low enough, Mariota can be this year's Carr insofar as he'll be by far the best 100+ ADP QB in the pool and if you take him late that could be a league winner If he's going in the 8-9th or later, I'll definitely be targeting him and another guy (probably Tannehill because lol I can't quit you) and then hope he blows up. I could see the hype train building up steam though, and if he's going in the top 75 picks, I'm gonna be a hard pass probably Teemu Pokemon fucked around with this message at 01:32 on May 9, 2017 |
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I think both Winston and Mariota will get a ton of hype coming into the season and their ADP will be priced closer to their ceiling, making them less a value. Meanwhile, Andy Dalton, who has a Top 5 QB season in his history, and who had some surprisingly excellent seasons derailed by injury the last few years will be an underrated QB value this season. Bengals added some speed in John Ross, and a dynamic RB in Mixon to chase Jeremy Hill to the bench and challenge Gio for pass game work - plus AJG and Eifert. The only potential roadblock is a weakened O-line. There's my too early QB hot take. Quarterroys fucked around with this message at 01:52 on May 9, 2017 |
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If Winston and Mariota get bumped, that's gonna push other QBs down. The way I see it, you should be able to get great value on one of these guys Rodgers Brees Brady Luck Roethlisburger Rivers Cousins Carr Wilson Mariota Winstron poo poo, in a 12 man league, I am amped as gently caress to get any of those guys in the 7th or later
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Ben Roethlisberger is a do not own for me. Misses 2-3 games per year, and absolutely atrocious road splits. I'll let someone else ride that name brand carousel this year.
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Cervixalot posted:Ben Roethlisberger is a do not own for me. Misses 2-3 games per year, and absolutely atrocious road splits. I'll let someone else ride that name brand carousel this year. There are guys that are on my do not own list from there. I'm just saying QB is deep as gently caress.
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We're having our dynasty rookie draft real early this year(thus Sunday). Is there a good general rookie ranking that goes beyond the top 10-20 guys out yet? I don't have a pick until mid 2nd and I want to start getting my hopes up
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lol your league is stupid A ton of rookies will wash out and not even be on a team by week 1. And a bunch will be injured. Why would you do a rookie draft in May? I don't think you're gonna find a great rookie ranking thing. For dynasty I'd just assume the NFL teams did their homework and stick to dudes drafted in the first two rounds, or anyone who fell a lot solely due to an injury that you're sure they'll recover from. And of course avoid the draft picks made by the really lovely teams.
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Leperflesh posted:lol your league is stupid Leonard Fournette is off Leperflesh's board.  EDIT: He is right, it's way too early for a rookie draft.
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Some people originally wanted to have our rookie draft before the NFL draft when we were writing our rules. We have very deep benches so everyone has a whole bunch of roster trash and lottery tickets. It's fun but especially drafting is such a crapshoot
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Leperflesh posted:lol your league is stupid
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Lol lotta bad advice. There's no better time for rookie drafts. Where is the fun in getting hyped up about UDFAs if you don't draft until they're already cut? If you stick to rookies taken in the first 2 rounds of the NFL draft, you're limiting yourself to 4 RBs and 5 WRs, and taking Gerald Everett and Adam Shaheen over any others (who? exactly!). Enjoy your 1 round dynasty draft. Fantasy Pros has rookie rankings through 78, but includes IDP, so offense only is a bit less.https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/rookies.php Plenty of other places have scouting reports on most of the offensive guys listed there too. "Name scouting report" in Google is all you need.
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I had to argue long and hard in our dynasty to have the draft in late July (some wanted around now and a couple wanted pre-NFL draft) and also to make the drop date to get to the right number of players for the draft (with players dropped being draftable) not be the morning of the draft. There are crazies out there.
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I guess I don't get it. Not much will change drastically except for fringe late round guys you'll likely cut anyway, and a handful of rookies whose teams sign a vet FA in the next couple months. No one likes devy leagues here??
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May rookie drafts are fine, nerds
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Ben Nevis posted:Just draft Tarik Cohen for as many picks as you can. If you touch him, I will cut you.  Spoeank posted:May rookie drafts are fine, nerds I'm not saying you have to wait until the preseason, but it's nice to get a couple of mini-camps in to sift through the later rounds.
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Sataere posted:I'm not saying you have to wait until the preseason, but it's nice to get a couple of mini-camps in to sift through the later rounds. It's just more information that everyone else gets too. You'll be sifting through the same garbage in the later rounds either way, as anyone that shines a little will move up the draft board.
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I realized I made an unwarranted assumption. In my dynasty league, we use FAAB and there is no way to get a player for free. And we have a salary cap and an annual spending limit on FAAB. So if you load up on a bunch of lottery tickets in the rookie draft and then have to dump half of them in August, you're eating into your budget to replace them with more lottery tickets. Having to churn through rookies degrades your ability to manage your team during the regular season. So we do our rookie draft shortly before week 1 kicks off, and that way nobody is wasting roster spots or FAAB dollars on dudes who are not going to make the final cut.
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RVProfootballer posted:It's just more information that everyone else gets too. You'll be sifting through the same garbage in the later rounds either way, as anyone that shines a little will move up the draft board. I'm already sifting through it anyway, but some of my opponents won't. I always err on the side of more information.
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Mariota is likely to do better, but Winston has a much higher floor due to volume, weapons, and system
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