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Which Thread Title shall we name this new thread?
This poll is closed.
Independence Day 2: Resturgeonce 44 21.36%
ScotPol - Unclustering this gently caress 19 9.22%
Trainspotting 2: Independence is my heroin 9 4.37%
Indyref II: Boris hosed a Dead Country 14 6.80%
ScotPol: Wings over Bullshit 8 3.88%
Independence 2: Cameron Lied, UK Died 24 11.65%
Scotpol IV: I Vow To Flee My Country 14 6.80%
ScotPol - A twice in a generation thread 17 8.25%
ScotPol - Where Everything's hosed Up and the Referendums Don't Matter 15 7.28%
ScotPol Thread: Dependence Referendum Incoming 2 0.97%
Indyref II: The Scottish Insturgeoncy 10 4.85%
ScotPol Thread: Act of European Union 5 2.43%
ScotPol - Like Game of Thrones only we wish we would all die 25 12.14%
Total: 206 votes
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Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

LemonDrizzle posted:

you know what's really bad? using a giant pie chart (or donut chart i guess in this case) to present two numbers

two
loving
numbers

they've even managed to create the pie chart in a way that makes the numbers harder to read than they would be if just presented in plain text

to be fair, two or three numbers is pretty much the only time when a pie chart is any use at all, though I agree with you re: tiny labels.

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keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!
I love Nicola Sturgeon

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

keep punching joe posted:

I love Nicola Sturgeon



That photo was taken just up the hill from my flat. drat, and I just posted my last rock to Tory HQ in a Freepost envelope.

Leggsy
Apr 30, 2008

We'll take our chances...
Ruth Davidson on rape clause: All they do is tick a box

For as politically savvy as Ruth Davidson undoubtedly is, she's handling the rape clause stuff horribly.

Niric
Jul 23, 2008

keep punching joe posted:

I love Nicola Sturgeon



Is the boy on the right playing the circle game?

Acaila
Jan 2, 2011



I don't think there really is a way to handle such an evil piece of legislation well.

Niric
Jul 23, 2008

Remember kids, attempted armed robbery is not funny. Banker jailed for ice-cream robbery bid


quote:

A TSB bank manager who pulled a gun on an ice cream seller, then sent him a Facebook message saying sorry, has been jailed.

Ian Hamilton, 30, pointed it at Neil McIntyre, 31, in Kilwinning, Ayrshire, in July 2016.

Hamilton, from Kilwinning, said "you're getting robbed" as he tried to force Mr McIntyre to hand over his takings.

He was jailed for 26 months after earlier pleading guilty to assault with intent to rob.

Hamilton, approached Mr McIntyre's ice cream van as it was parked in the Pennyburn area of Kilwinning, Ayrshire, at 15:30 on 3 July last year.

He asked for "20 fags" while holding his hand behind his back, then pulled the gun out.

Facebook apology

Despite having the gun pointed in his face, Mr McIntyre grabbed the weapon but Hamilton managed to keep hold of it.

Mr McIntyre drove away from the scene and called police.

An investigation was launched but it was not clear who was responsible as McIntyre only recognised Hamilton as someone local to the area and did not know him personally or know his name.

Later that day, Hamilton was found by his girlfriend asleep face-down on top of his bed, with the gun next to him.

Never having seen the weapon before, she put it in the kitchen cupboard.

He had stolen the weapon, which was a ball-bearing gun, from his friend that morning during a drinking session.

Hamilton contacted Mr McIntyre via Facebook the following morning to apologise - revealing his identity and admitting what he had done.

'Extremely intoxicated'

His message, which he sent to Mr McIntyre's business page Neil's Ices, read: "Alright bud. Just wanted to say soz for pointing that gun at you, it was only a toy.

"It's a bit daft, I know, but I had a bevvy in me and I thought it was funny.

"I know it's not, though.


"I've got rid of it now so it doesn't cause any problems."

At Dumbarton Sheriff Court, defence solicitor Fraser Alexander said: "His position is that this was a joke.

"He was extremely under the influence of alcohol.

"The position is that he was drinking, the night before, heavily, woke the following morning and continued to drink, which resulted in him being extremely intoxicated. "

Mr Alexander added: "He does not seek to use it as an excuse for his conduct - he recognises his consumption of alcohol is his problem.

"This is not the behaviour one would expect from a man that comes from the background Mr Hamilton comes from."

He added that Hamilton had lost his job as a result of his crime.

Is there any background someone could come from that would make getting absolutely smashed then trying, and failing, to rob an ice cream van before sending a bizarre apology via Facebook "expected behaviour"?

Niric fucked around with this message at 08:43 on May 3, 2017

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH
Oh Ayrshire, you never cease to amaze.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
Who else is pumped up and raring to experience the exciting and highly publicised council elections. I've had precisely two things in the door, and that's counting the Ruth Davidson Party's Totally Not An Election Leaflet, Honest. what else could possibly be distracting people's attention, who can tell

Acaila
Jan 2, 2011



I'm mildly annoyed at my other half. We had a knock at the door, on Saturday I think, and weren't expecting anyone. I was in my pjs, but he decided he didn't want to answer it, and I later discovered from the "sorry we missed you" leaflet it was a canvasser. I've never ever been canvassed by a party before :(. (I did get canvassed by the Yes campaign, and only answered the door because I thought it was my pizza arriving. Bless the canvassers who had to deal with not being the expected Meateor and resulting crushing disappointment).

Extreme0
Feb 28, 2013

I dance to the sweet tune of your failure so I'm never gonna stop fucking with you.

Continue to get confused and frustrated with me as I dance to your anger.

As I expect nothing more from ya you stupid runt!


Lord of the Llamas posted:

Oh Ayrshire, you never cease to amaze.

It's amazing how much stupid poo poo I've seen there ever since I was born in Ayrshire.

Angepain posted:

Who else is pumped up and raring to experience the exciting and highly publicised council elections. I've had precisely two things in the door, and that's counting the Ruth Davidson Party's Totally Not An Election Leaflet, Honest. what else could possibly be distracting people's attention, who can tell

My Ballet was two Indepedents, two SNP, one Tory, one Labour, one Green and one Scottish Libertarian. I only voted for two of the candidates.

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.
Dammit people put a vote down for every candidate and put the Tories last.

Extreme0
Feb 28, 2013

I dance to the sweet tune of your failure so I'm never gonna stop fucking with you.

Continue to get confused and frustrated with me as I dance to your anger.

As I expect nothing more from ya you stupid runt!


Coohoolin posted:

Dammit people put a vote down for every candidate and put the Tories last.

I was rushing and didn't have enough time to fully complete the ballet before I realised. I was needed in some important stuff and only slammed my face when I realised the mistake I made.

Oh well. At the least I voted for who I wanted to vote for. Not assholes.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
I wish all councillors were elected by ballet

Extreme0
Feb 28, 2013

I dance to the sweet tune of your failure so I'm never gonna stop fucking with you.

Continue to get confused and frustrated with me as I dance to your anger.

As I expect nothing more from ya you stupid runt!


Why do they pronounce it Ballet here? Just loving confusing.

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.
One of my uni pals who is running as a Greens candidate just posted on my fb to say it was actually fine not to vote for the Tories instead of putting them last. Argh.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Coohoolin posted:

One of my uni pals who is running as a Greens candidate just posted on my fb to say it was actually fine not to vote for the Tories instead of putting them last. Argh.

If you put a preference for all the others it's not going to make any significant difference. Does it even make a difference at all? If there's only one candidate remaining in the xth round they're getting in regardless.

Angepain fucked around with this message at 13:27 on May 4, 2017

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Angepain posted:

If you put a preference for all the others it's not going to make any significant difference. Does it even make a difference at all? If there's only one candidate remaining in the xth round they're getting in regardless.

It reduces the effective threshold in later rounds of transfers but its not the be all and end all, if your stacking your ballot with an early transfer to a candidate in good standing to take a seat and its unlikely your vote will transfer further its not going to have an impact

You'd have to front stack the candidates most likely to be eliminated first or be elected with a comfortable surplus but its very unlikely your vote will still be in play in the last round for your bottom preferences to have a play

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

Coohoolin posted:

Dammit people put a vote down for every candidate and put the Tories last.

this makes as much sense as 'both votes SNP'

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Coohoolin posted:

Dammit people put a vote down for every candidate and put the Tories last.

No. This is not how STV works. Two slots will go to the SNP, 1 will go to the Liberals, not putting your 8th option as Tory will make no loving difference here.

Also, the Tory candidate is not even the worst candidate in this ward so if I was going to do that, the Tories wouldn't get my last vote. But instead I will not vote for either the Tory nor the ultra-British nationalist Daily Mail independent candidate.

Acaila
Jan 2, 2011



We've just had the SNP at the door checking if we've voted. Isn't that normally something parties only to do their very strong supporters? (like, people they give poll cards do and then they go chap doors of those who haven't handed their card in to the party hack at the polling station)

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!

Acaila posted:

We've just had the SNP at the door checking if we've voted. Isn't that normally something parties only to do their very strong supporters? (like, people they give poll cards do and then they go chap doors of those who haven't handed their card in to the party hack at the polling station)

They election day canvas based on Yes campaign data to target people who ranked independence highly on the scale, with the presumption that they will probably either vote SNP or Green.

Acaila
Jan 2, 2011



That's what my Nat friend suggested, but I wasn't even in the same council area for the indyref! (and actually, now I think about it, I never got canvassed for the indyref at my old address, because anytime canvassing happened round my way I was out involved in it, only to come back to a "sorry we missed you!" leaflet). Don't think my old address was associated with anything, and certainly not this one.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
maybe the people living there before you were raving hypernats?

Aramoro
Jun 1, 2012




Ive seen this a few times recently, what exactly is a 'yoon' in the parlance of a Nat?

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

Aramoro posted:

Ive seen this a few times recently, what exactly is a 'yoon' in the parlance of a Nat?

Unionist.

Ie Yoonist.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
edit: this used to be a post saying how silly it was that RISE stopped existing when the council elections would in theory be easier to get a foothold in than Holyrood was, but turns out they do in fact have a candidate (a single candidate) in Motherwell and are backing an independent in Glasgow, so at least they're trying I guess.

Angepain fucked around with this message at 01:40 on May 5, 2017

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Unlike everyone else. Four candidates in my ward and three get elected, because nobody but the main UK parties who stand everywhere want to waste money against the SNP juggernaut.

hyper from Pixie Sticks
Sep 28, 2004

7 folk stood in my ward, 2 each of Labour and SNP, and 1 each of Tory, LibDem and Green.

The three seats will almost certainly go to some combination of Labour and SNP only.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Jedit posted:

Unlike everyone else. Four candidates in my ward and three get elected, because nobody but the main UK parties who stand everywhere want to waste money against the SNP juggernaut.

8 candidates here, the usual 5 plus an extra SNP and 2 independents. But then there was a ward in Argyll which managed 3 candidates for 3 seats so...

Since someone was talking about RISE earlier, I noticed the SSP had some candidates. So has their coalition with RISE just been binned? Socialists are pretty dumb.

forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 09:38 on May 5, 2017

hookerbot 5000
Dec 21, 2009
Here we had ten candidates, 2 SNP, a Green, a Conservative and 6 Independents. No Labour people - or I think maybe one of the Independents used to be a Labour person?

Argyll and Bute council is a shitshow though.

mehall
Aug 27, 2010


My partner is standing in a ward.
There's 2 SNP candidates, 1 Labour, 1 Tory, and 3 who are basically independents, though 2 are going under minor party names.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Which ward?

At a count right now. Stressful and boring all at once.

mehall
Aug 27, 2010


Autonomous Monster posted:

Which ward?

At a count right now. Stressful and boring all at once.

Don't doxx me.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
Orkney results are in, they've gone from 21 independent councillors to 20 independents and 1 green. Um, probably not much use for predicting the other councils.

Turnout was apparently down slightly from last time though, which doesn't bode well.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Angepain posted:

Orkney results are in, they've gone from 21 independent councillors to 20 independents and 1 green. Um, probably not much use for predicting the other councils.

Turnout was apparently down slightly from last time though, which doesn't bode well.

On the other hand, Green on Orkney is cool

Highland has it's first result, Inverness Ness-side has returned a Liberal & SNP on the first round, & a Tory in the 4th. Previously there were 1 each from SNP, Lib, Lab & an independent, but there's been boundary rejigging and some place (all? I'm not sure) are returning 3 instead of 4 councillors.

forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 11:33 on May 5, 2017

Leggsy
Apr 30, 2008

We'll take our chances...
Early results suggest the Tories are doing well above the upper end of expectations around Scotland. Taking seats from both the SNP and Labour, with transfers from Labour voters really helping the Tories out in certain places.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Leggsy posted:

Early results suggest the Tories are doing well above the upper end of expectations around Scotland. Taking seats from both the SNP and Labour, with transfers from Labour voters really helping the Tories out in certain places.

that'll stop those snp councillors from declaring an independence referendum, noted power of local councils, good job Labour voters

Leggsy
Apr 30, 2008

We'll take our chances...
The real fun will begin when we see a bunch of Conservative/Labour coalitions in order to keep the SNP out. Will really help the vote share I feel.

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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


And more in me wasting all your time with the results from the Highlands, Cromarty Firth returned an independent in the 1st round, SNP in the 2nd, & then SNP & independent in the 8th. Must have been close there. They previously had 2 independents, 1 SNP & 1 Lib.

Aird & Loch Ness has gone with 2 independents, 1 SNP & 1 Tory, from 2 independents, 1 SNP & 1 Liberal. So that's 2 Tory gains so far.

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