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Rygar201 posted:Why would it be? It's True Damage
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Gray Matter posted:I thought true damage just meant it considered armor and magic resist to be 0 Possibly, but it ignores Exhaust and similar damage modifiers.
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May 4, 2017 20:00
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The Zac rework is interesting, I wonder how the new ult is holding up compared to the old one that applied more CC/Damage and gave him tons of healing blobs everytime he hit anything? Oh. Since Gargoyle stoneplate doesn't seem to reduce true damage, it seems like a solid late game pickup on Cho/Camille/Olaf. Ra Ra Rasputin fucked around with this message at 21:03 on May 4, 2017 |
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May 4, 2017 20:58
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i am fairly certain true damage can't be reduced and never will be because that has the potential to (almost definitely would?) gently caress up smite
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May 4, 2017 20:59
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:The Zac rework is interesting, I wonder how the new ult is holding up compared to the old one that applied more CC/Damage and gave him tons of healing blobs everytime he hit anything? Ya boy kcw, fresh off probation, here to talk about how I completely whiffed multiple ults as Zac in my one game trying out the rework
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May 4, 2017 21:11
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Smite sucks and should go away forever. 50/50 Smite battles are the worst.Ra Ra Rasputin posted:The Zac rework is interesting, I wonder how the new ult is holding up compared to the old one that applied more CC/Damage and gave him tons of healing blobs everytime he hit anything? lmao
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May 4, 2017 21:44
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:The Zac rework is interesting, I wonder how the new ult is holding up compared to the old one that applied more CC/Damage and gave him tons of healing blobs everytime he hit anything? smh why did they bother touching zac he was fine. He was even picked competitively from time to time. He had unique jungling and gank paths. Now his ult is just rubbish. Why would you want to get away from the enemy as a tank? The whole point of being full tank is disrupting their entire team 1v5 ala Maokai with his old ult. Well I haven't played ranked since this patch came so I am not sure how strong they are but Sejuani seems decent if you can get your e up constantly the damage is really good. Maokai does 0 dmg for a toplaner I think he might be a good support though.
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May 4, 2017 21:52
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Pop-o-Matic Trouble posted:Smite sucks and should go away forever. 50/50 Smite battles are the worst.
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May 4, 2017 21:52
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God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title
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It wouldn't be a dice roll as the team with better positioning would be able to block skillshots with their bodies, but smart players could still approach from odd angles and try for snipes. Way more interesting that who clicked first.
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May 4, 2017 21:59
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Ulio posted:Now his ult is just rubbish. Why would you want to get away from the enemy as a tank? The whole point of being full tank is disrupting their entire team 1v5 ala Maokai with his old ult. So you can do what tanks should be doing - transporting the enemy Darius into your backline
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May 4, 2017 22:01
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Pop-o-Matic Trouble posted:It wouldn't be a dice roll as the team with better positioning would be able to block skillshots with their bodies, but smart players could still approach from odd angles and try for snipes. Way more interesting that who clicked first. "well we had five of us and four of them dead but the Shen was standing in the pit and whoops his sunfire cape got baron. this is a fun and good game."
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May 4, 2017 22:13
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rabidsquid posted:i am fairly certain true damage can't be reduced and never will be because that has the potential to (almost definitely would?) gently caress up smite True damage to towers is reduced by the backdoor bonus. (They made that a thing in the exact same patch where they made Mountain Drake's bonus damage not apply to true damage on the grounds that nothing should ever affect true damage ever.)
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May 4, 2017 22:18
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New Disco Heat video has a clip of some streamer yelling about how goons ruin his life. What did we do to this guy  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ic32miNbVUQ&t=225s
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May 4, 2017 22:27
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RYang posted:True damage to towers is reduced by the backdoor bonus. Classic  I love this game, and Riot seems to try real hard, but I straight up don't stuff like this Rygar201 fucked around with this message at 22:33 on May 4, 2017 |
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May 4, 2017 22:28
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Looking over the patch notes I think my favorite thing about it is the patented double nerf of "armor pen was too strong so we nerfed it and gave tanks more armor (also adcs will all buy guardian angels now. )"
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May 4, 2017 22:37
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misguided rage posted:If smite went away then every single objective would be a dice roll because anyone would be just as good as anyone else at getting the last hit. At least with smite you know exactly which member of the enemy team you need to kill or keep away to make it uncontestable. That or the small handful of characters with a smite-alike (Nunu) would become as gods.
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May 4, 2017 22:52
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ImpAtom posted:That or the small handful of characters with a smite-alike (Nunu) would become as gods.
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May 4, 2017 22:55
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Crazy Larry posted:Looking over the patch notes I think my favorite thing about it is the patented double nerf of "armor pen was too strong so we nerfed it and gave tanks more armor (also adcs will all buy guardian angels now. )" Good. gently caress assassins. Now if they would only nerf ap ones now.
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May 4, 2017 23:13
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Aumanor posted:Good. gently caress assassins. Now if they would only nerf ap ones now. Why do you hate fun, friend?
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May 4, 2017 23:17
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i hate the "lets remove summoner spells" discussion. like instead of getting rid of ubiquitous summoner spells, why not buff the other spells. bring back revive. bring back promote. bring back cv. gently caress
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May 4, 2017 23:22
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Rygar201 posted:Why do you hate fun, friend? I don't think getting blown up in 0.1 s by a guy who in another 0.1 sec is a full screen away is fun. Imho assassins are the single biggest blight on this game.
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May 4, 2017 23:26
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pog boyfriend posted:i hate the "lets remove summoner spells" discussion. like instead of getting rid of ubiquitous summoner spells, why not buff the other spells. bring back revive. bring back promote. bring back cv. gently caress Aumanor posted:I don't think getting blown up in 0.1 s by a guy who in another 0.1 sec is a full screen away is fun. Imho assassins are the single biggest blight on this game. Personally, I think it's Super Fun to explode out of position heroes
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May 4, 2017 23:49
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Ulio posted:smh why did they bother touching zac he was fine. He was even picked competitively from time to time. He had unique jungling and gank paths. Now his ult is just rubbish. Why would you want to get away from the enemy as a tank? The whole point of being full tank is disrupting their entire team 1v5 ala Maokai with his old ult. Because if you take two dudes away with you and your enemy team is left in a 4v3 you win the game. That simple.
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May 4, 2017 23:55
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Aumanor posted:I don't think getting blown up in 0.1 s by a guy who in another 0.1 sec is a full screen away is fun. Imho assassins are the single biggest blight on this game. i used to think that way but after sitting down and thinking about it a league of legends where assassins do not exist is one of the most boring games of all time
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May 5, 2017 00:49
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without assassins to kill the hypercarries, the dystopic league of legends: aumanor edition features 50-70 minute games where a pool of 8 hypercarries are the only real role that matters and everyone else is delegated to building pure tank and standing around trying to zone off the 6 slot no boots carry on the other team to make sure their 6 slot no boots carry lives because if that happens You Lose The Game so nobody ever fights and you get to experience a virtual approximation of the cold war every time you queue up
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May 5, 2017 00:57
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tanks kill assassins assassins kill backline tanks kill backline also it's the circle of life
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May 5, 2017 01:12
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 lp system really reduces ranked stress guys
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May 5, 2017 01:42
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Methanar posted:
The solution seems so simple; just apply any excess to your total after your promotion series. Like if you're at 99 LP and get 18 LP for your next win, and you win the new series, you start your new rank with 17 LP. If you lose the series, you get +17 LP to whatever the current default post-series amount of LP is (70 or something?).
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May 5, 2017 03:16
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Going 1-2 in a series does leave you with more LP than 0-2.
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May 5, 2017 03:17
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Played against new maokai as a supp, he took thunderlords and presumably some ap/pen in his runes, it was a loving nightmare in lane but not good in the longrun. It was seriously chunking me for like 1/3rd of my health as braum anytime one of the bush saps hit me. He was too weak lategame/didn't have enough disruption so we won anyways but it felt too good during laning phase. As a side note I feel like I have not seen new attrox ever lose, dude just becomes unkillable while also putting out a ton of damage. Everyone seemed to say he was bad when the remake first came out but anecdotally he seems strong as gently caress and basically has solo carried every game I've either played with or against him.
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May 5, 2017 05:45
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Rygar201 posted:I was going to PM you about this, but I see you do not have PMs. Theirs. They're very rarely checked brushes that however give you good info, perfect for a pink. They don't give a lot of vision, per se, but what you're meant to do is figure out on which side the enemy jungler is starting so you pink the opposite side to know if they're following a standard route. The red brush pink is very useful for getting an accurate timing on when the enemy jungler is going to gank as you can clearly see from there if they move to krugs, tribush or raptors after finishing red. The wolves brush is similar, but it gives slightly better vision as you'll be able to see when the enemy jungler switches sides if you have the river covered and it also lets you know if blast cone is up, which is great for getting away after stealing a camp.
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May 5, 2017 09:02
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Posting to say I'm glad riot is quietly bringing pfe up to par with other ultimate skins
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May 5, 2017 10:52
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I want to start playing Ivern. Someone tell me what I should be doing the first few minutes of the game, because his path is all crazy. EDIT: Lol on champion.gg the highest win percentage start is just refillable pot and save the rest of your money Boxman fucked around with this message at 12:01 on May 5, 2017 |
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May 5, 2017 11:59
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Boxman posted:I want to start playing Ivern. Someone tell me what I should be doing the first few minutes of the game, because his path is all crazy. Start diagonally across from wherever the opposing jungler is, tag your buff (and raptors if you're tagging your red), steal their other buff with a smite, then either do a cheese level two gank if you stole their red or go back to take your two camps for level three if you stole their blue, then gank.
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May 5, 2017 12:02
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Boxman posted:I want to start playing Ivern. Someone tell me what I should be doing the first few minutes of the game, because his path is all crazy.
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May 5, 2017 12:10
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misguided rage posted:That seems incredibly questionable. I'm more inclined to believe that champion.gg is parsing something incorrectly, because not starting with any mana regen or bonus xp sounds like a great way to lose the game immediately. It's just some Ivern main with an extremely practiced start skewing things. It's a 72 game sample out 55k games total. You see these things pop up on champion.gg, where one person with a cheese strategy pops up as the "best" build because of how they break things down. That's why op.gg tends to be better, because it gives a larger amount of info instead of just the very top performers.
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May 5, 2017 12:27
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Boxman posted:I want to start playing Ivern. Someone tell me what I should be doing the first few minutes of the game, because his path is all crazy. It depends if you're red side or blue side, the matchup, and where the enemy jungler starts. Generally you want to start opposite from the enemy jungler, and you should try and figure this out lvl 1 using your Q and trinket. Start Hunter's Talisman for the extra mana regen, trade the refill pot for a pot and a pink ward if you want to get deep vision. If the enemy starts bot side buff, you tap Raptors-Red Buff on red side, Wolves-Blue buff on blue side (You can also tap Gromp if you know the enemy is slow at clearing, but you won't have enough mana for both Q and passive). Instantly go to the opposite buff, Q over the wall (Do NOT go in if the buff has less than full health, that means the jungler is there and you'll die), tap, smite, come back, take your stuff, tap everything else on the other side of the map but Gromp/Krugs, turn back, collect everything, then tap and smite Gromp/Krugs. Expect good junglers to anticipate this and take your second buff anyway, but it's an even trade that way. If the enemy starts top side buff, it's basically a mirror of this, you tap Wolves-Blue Buff on red side and Raptors-Red Buff on blue side. If you don't want to invade because you're up against a fast clearer, there's a way to get level 4 before 3:10. Start Blue and smite it, tap Gromp, Wolves, Raptors, Red, turn back, collect them all in order, smite Krugs. Notice how I'm not mentioning Scuttle, that's because it's universally a waste of HP/Mana and time on Ivern, take it only if nothing else is taken. Don't gank before you have W and red buff. Considering how fast you actually clear it's really criminal to not hit Level 3 before ganking. First back, depending on how well you did and how the match is going, get a Dark Seal or two if you got a kill, CDR boots if you want to counterjungle harder, Chalice if facing heavy AP. Core items are Redemption, Athene's and Solari, they're bullshit strong combined with Windspeaker and your E, you basically turn around fights in an instant. Don't finish your smite item you seriously don't need it, unless you're getting Tracker's Knife for the extra wards. fnox fucked around with this message at 12:36 on May 5, 2017 |
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May 5, 2017 12:33
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misguided rage posted:That seems incredibly questionable. I'm more inclined to believe that champion.gg is parsing something incorrectly, because not starting with any mana regen or bonus xp sounds like a great way to lose the game immediately. the item data on champion.gg has been suspect for a long time and lately it's been even more clearly garbage - for example, the "best item build" for every champ is listed at like 45% winrate right now. i basically don't trust anything on that site except for the overall champ winrates.
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May 5, 2017 14:02
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Use champion analytics on op.gg instead
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Tales of Woe posted:the item data on champion.gg has been suspect for a long time and lately it's been even more clearly garbage - for example, the "best item build" for every champ is listed at like 45% winrate right now. i basically don't trust anything on that site except for the overall champ winrates. I've only noticed because I use Championify to make item sets and lately some of them have been totally hosed up, like not even having starting items.
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