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Pollyanna posted:This seems unreliable. Just like the vast majority of psychology "research."
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PokeJoe posted:That's a lot of assumptions from clicking on words hail corporate
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May 3, 2017 22:03
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Might as well be a "Which Harry Potter character are you?" BuzzFeed quiz.
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May 3, 2017 22:09
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I don't think we're giving it enough credit. It's a successfully monetized disruption to the HR industry.
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May 3, 2017 22:11
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fantastic in plastic posted:I don't think we're giving it enough credit. It's a successfully monetized disruption to the HR industry. You're right! We need to run this poo poo into the ground until there's nothing left of HR but a Google Now style textbox & forms submission. A true paradise devoid of HR awaits us...
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May 3, 2017 22:13
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Pollyanna posted:Here's the updated version of my resume. I'm starting to get responses from apps and recruiters, so I'm feeling less worried now - but I still wanna make sure I'm not missing anything obvious. Edit: Consider using tables to spread some of the information out, like: code:code:Star War Sex Parrot fucked around with this message at 23:32 on May 3, 2017 |
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May 3, 2017 22:22
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Pollyanna posted:Here's the updated version of my resume. Are you familiar with any database technology? List SQL and make sure you know how to do an inner and left/right outer join by hand (that passes as "knows SQL"). quote:Coordinating with product owners to determine and refine business requirements This is a bit weak. Aren't you the point-of-contact for marketing or something? For each bullet point, if the interviewer says "so tell me about that" do you have a story you can tell?
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May 4, 2017 02:05
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I'm back on the interviewing circuit, and holy poo poo I can't believe I'm still nervous about interviews after all this time. Especially phone interviews. I wish they had a formula I could stick to and be less anxious about, or at least knew what was coming so I wouldn't feel unprepared. I generally spend my time preparing for phone interviews by researching the company, getting familiar with what it does and what I'd be doing, and the like. The good thing is that phone interviews are usually the softer ones, but that doesn't make them less terrifying  I always, always have less questions in my mind than are expected when interviewers are like "do you have any questions for me?", cause that stuff tends to take time to formulate in my mind and I need to get familiar with a situation before I can come up with that poo poo. I need to write a checklist for interviews... I also kinda get the feeling that "I'm interested in this field (i.e. something like IoT) and want to pursue an opportunity to work in it" isn't really a response interviewers appreciate. I assume they're looking for experts in a field, and not someone who wants to try their hand at it? Is it ever worth saying that? Star War Sex Parrot posted:Get it down to one page. You do not have the background to support more than one page, especially when the second page is 90% whitespace. Is that just a formatting screw up for your anonymized version? Yeah, I think it's a formatting thing. I can mess around with the formatting a bit to see if I can get it all on one page. Mniot posted:Are you familiar with any database technology? List SQL and make sure you know how to do an inner and left/right outer join by hand (that passes as "knows SQL"). I've done a good bit of SQL - that's basically what happened with the "improve Postgres reads" bulletpoint, where we had some N+1 queries and weirdly defined selections that needed refinement and optimizing. That basically came down to what the most efficient way of getting that information was and was basically some JOIN magic. That was my last job though, my current job has nowhere near that much of a need for speed, but I did identify some incredibly dumb queries in the last project I was working on that I never got to fix. quote:This is a bit weak. Aren't you the point-of-contact for marketing or something? Not really? The design team in NYC and the product owners don't always have requirements that make sense/have badly thought out design and product decisions that either don't end up being reasonable to implement in our codebase, or just plain don't make sense given the user's interaction. I've ended up playing the role of the "what is this can you explain this to me why would we do this" feature critic on more than one occasion, so I end up being a product design sounding board. quote:For each bullet point, if the interviewer says "so tell me about that" do you have a story you can tell? More or less. Might take me a bit to remember what I did, but my memory isn't totally shot yet. What was that acronym for setting up a situation, detailing the problem, explaining the solution, then the results? I usually follow that. Pollyanna fucked around with this message at 17:12 on May 4, 2017 |
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May 4, 2017 17:09
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For interview prep, the most common screen-share coding questions I've seen are: - Identify the biggest drop in a list of numbers. - Determine if a string is a palindrome.
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lifg posted:For interview prep, the most common screen-share coding questions I've seen are: Jesus, I need to get some practice in. These things are piss easy, but I've been stuck doing Javascript busywork long enough that I need to brush back up on how to do this in my other languages...I hate how easy it is to get rusty. edit: aaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha i still got it baby  code:code:Pollyanna fucked around with this message at 18:19 on May 4, 2017 |
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May 4, 2017 17:45
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Pollyanna posted:I'm back on the interviewing circuit, and holy poo poo I can't believe I'm still nervous about interviews after all this time. I am in the workforce for 20 years and still get nervous. Please cling to your humanity.
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May 4, 2017 17:49
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Pollyanna posted:I'm back on the interviewing circuit, and holy poo poo I can't believe I'm still nervous about interviews after all this time. Especially phone interviews. I wish they had a formula I could stick to and be less anxious about, or at least knew what was coming so I wouldn't feel unprepared. This is really quite normal, it never goes away. We were prey animals for a long time. It makes us anxious to have predators look at us. Courage is not the absence of fear, it's the ability to function while feeling it.
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May 4, 2017 17:56
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funny Star Wars parody posted:In Detroit everyone is an embedded developer, then the rest are EE's that do a lot of C/C++ or mobile app devs Checks out, when I lived in Ann Arbor I was working on embedded C++-on-QNX-on-PowerPC boxes that went into cop cars.
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I'm putting in a lot of job applications for startups, and it's been long enough since I dealt with them that I don't recall what the major red flags are. In general, I try to dig in and see if they have their poo poo together, but I kind of expect startups to be ramshackle anyway so that doesn't always reveal anything useful. I also check up on the companies on Crunchbase and Glassdoor and the like, mostly looking for whatever Series they last went through - anything C and further is good. Is this still a good heuristic? I just had a phone interview with a company and either I forgot how hectic startups are, or they seemed very hurried in their business development - I think I've spent too long in enterprise  Also I continue to suck rear end at interviews. The "why are you looking to change jobs?" question trips me up every time and I always end up answering honestly - "differences with management and company direction", etc. I need to get more practice and learn to stay on topic better.
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May 4, 2017 20:34
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Pollyanna posted:I need to get more practice
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May 4, 2017 20:35
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You know those questions are coming, why don't you have an answer prepared ahead of time? You don't want to sound overly rehearsed but you should have an idea of what you're going to say for standard questions ahead of time
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Jose Valasquez posted:You know those questions are coming, why don't you have an answer prepared ahead of time? Well...I don't really know how to phrase it politely. The reason I'm leaving my job - and the reason I usually leave my job - is that something went wrong with management, e.g. lack of direction in the product or inability to properly coordinate and execute a project, or my department just isn't making enough money so there's layoffs in the pipe (which is the case with my current job). Then there's also the lack of interest in what I'm working on that's compounded by the relatively poor codebase I work with, the lack of good development practices, and the fact that my day is just kinda full of bullshit that shouldn't be happening but the place I work at doesn't really have the capacity to improve in that sense. I guess I can't really phrase "my current job is a pain in the rear end and it probably won't get better" in a diplomatic way. "Greener pastures"?
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May 4, 2017 21:36
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Pollyanna posted:I guess I can't really phrase "my current job is a pain in the rear end and it probably won't get better" in a diplomatic way. "Greener pastures"? "I've had my fill of all the rainbows and sunshine, they're quite nice and I wish them no ill will, but I feel like i've reached a limit on my skills in unicorn taming and would appreciate an opportunity to grow in other areas that this shop can't support." You've mastered every area they've provided and want to grow more.
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May 4, 2017 21:46
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I've never gotten the impression that any of the companies interviewing me particularly cared what my reasons for leaving were, as long as they weren't a red flag like "they weren't on my level  "Likewise for the times where I've interviewed people
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May 4, 2017 21:58
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Might be better to just keep it short and sweet. "I have grown a lot in my current position, but I'm looking to move on and work on new and interesting things to broaden my horizons."
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May 4, 2017 22:03
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If you can bring it back to the job opportunity, that can help convey excitement about the role. "I'm looking to move on and work on new and interesting things. When I saw that your company was using COBOL to solve the three-body problem, I got really excited."
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ROFLburger posted:I've never gotten the impression that any of the companies interviewing me particularly cared what my reasons for leaving were, as long as they weren't a red flag like "they weren't on my level Yes, that's very much a pass/fail question where either you say something that instantly makes me not want to hire you or you don't.
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May 4, 2017 22:47
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As a response to "What are your salary expectations?", how do you rate, "Erm well it's my first job out of university so whatever you want to give me lol"?
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Pretty bad? "I've done zero research about the job/area/company AND I have zero other offers on the table." Like at a bare minimum the fluff answer is "Oh nothing unreasonable, just something competitive given the type of work and the area"
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"I'm looking for <market figgies from glassdoor> but I'm very open to negotiating."
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Iverron posted:"I'm looking for <market figgies from glassdoor> but I'm very open to negotiating." I am looking at entry level Linux positions. The average salary for a particular company is ~£40,000, which is almost twice the salary for the companies recruiting for the same position I find on indeed (for this company, I applied directly with their portal). The range is £32,000 to £47,000. For this position, the average seems very high, so my instinct would be to ignore the figgies and ask for what I regard as a good number as a CompSci grad aiming for an entry level Linux position, which is less than the lower bound of the range.
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May 5, 2017 00:56
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Iverron posted:"I'm looking for <market figgies from glassdoor> but I'm very open to negotiating." I usually try to flip it and get them to name a number or range, but this works great if you're stuck going first.
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May 5, 2017 02:32
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Median salary for a company seems like a pretty useless metric. I mean, that could include the CEO for all we know. You should figure out of that number is for the company or the position. If it's for the position, risk asking high. If you're genuinely too nervous to ask for the full 40k, nobody is going to laugh you out of there if you say 35k. Say something like other people have suggested. The HR people you will be talking to have done this once or twice before and are used to it.
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toadoftoadhall posted:I am looking at entry level Linux positions. The average salary for a particular company is ~£40,000, which is almost twice the salary for the companies recruiting for the same position I find on indeed (for this company, I applied directly with their portal). The range is £32,000 to £47,000. For this position, the average seems very high, so my instinct would be to ignore the figgies and ask for what I regard as a good number as a CompSci grad aiming for an entry level Linux position, which is less than the lower bound of the range. If you want to lie back and think of England, your instinct sounds good. Otherwise, aim at least for the middle of the range.
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Just look up jobs with the same titles in the market to get a good starting point, figure out what you want, ask for what you want, and say "but this isn't a hard number and I'm willing to work with you". It shows confidence and acumen compared to trying to fish out what they're trying to pay which can seem awkward.
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Vincent Valentine posted:Median salary for a company seems like a pretty useless metric. I mean, that could include the CEO for all we know. I didn't consider that was a possibility, it's ridiculous to think of a median salary across all positions.
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I've seen one or two places recently that just said "the salary is X, if you ask for more you're out" on the listing. Kind of nice tbh, but X needs to be above average and I've no idea how raises work for that given the reasoning behind it.
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Iverron posted:I've seen one or two places recently that just said "the salary is X, if you ask for more you're out" on the listing. Kind of nice tbh, but X needs to be above average and I've no idea how raises work for that given the reasoning behind it. I would take that kind of thing just as seriously as, "REQUIRED: 5 years of experience in <language>," in other words, it's part of their wish list. I also generally assume that the person who wrote the job posting that you're seeing is not the same person who is going to be making the decision (some HR moron usually has a hand in it) and if the people who matter want you, they'll find a way to bring you on board. Companies have a budget for new hires and it's going to be incredibly rare that there is absolutely no flexibility in it. If they're actually serious about telling you to piss off for having the unmitigated gall to negotiate for your own benefit, that's their loss, not yours, but if that's the only eyebrow-raiser on the job posting it shouldn't stop you from applying all by itself.
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Vincent Valentine posted:Median salary for a company seems like a pretty useless metric. I mean, that could include the CEO for all we know. Well, technically, including the CEO in the calculation of median salary would likely not skew the result terribly much
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Yeah, ignoring outliers is sort of the point of looking at the median rather than the mean.
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Che Delilas posted:I would take that kind of thing just as seriously as, "REQUIRED: 5 years of experience in <language>," in other words, it's part of their wish list. I also generally assume that the person who wrote the job posting that you're seeing is not the same person who is going to be making the decision (some HR moron usually has a hand in it) and if the people who matter want you, they'll find a way to bring you on board. Companies have a budget for new hires and it's going to be incredibly rare that there is absolutely no flexibility in it. There were other red flags as I moved on and I didn't get an offer, but the reasons I've seen given for this is almost always: avoiding discrimination / wage gap through openness about what "Senior Software Engineer" means salary wise. I can appreciate that, but what about 4 years down the road? You'd have to make up a bunch of titles I guess and then what's the difference between that and the usual business but openness?
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Iverron posted:There were other red flags as I moved on and I didn't get an offer, but the reasons I've seen given for this is almost always: avoiding discrimination / wage gap through openness about what "Senior Software Engineer" means salary wise. I can appreciate that, but what about 4 years down the road? You'd have to make up a bunch of titles I guess and then what's the difference between that and the usual business but openness? Gotta seem progressive somehow.  Like, salary openness and everything is great and I support it, but it's not enough to destroy discrimination. That exact scenario is basically what would happen, and we'd be back at square one.
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Had the phone interview, about 10 minutes into it I realised I was being interviewed for a position a "pay bracket" down from the one I applied for. That's okay. But then I gave my "I don't know what salary to expect" answer, and he gave the range for this position, which is ~3K lower than the same position as advertised on the reed jobs board (which I checked after the interview).
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Pollyanna posted:Gotta seem progressive somehow. I mean, it really is kinda nice to be able to look at a listing and say "yeah that works for 1-2 years" when most list a huge range that I don't know how they really feel about, but I'm not on a coast so.
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toadoftoadhall posted:Had the phone interview, about 10 minutes into it I realised I was being interviewed for a position a "pay bracket" down from the one I applied for. That's okay. But then I gave my "I don't know what salary to expect" answer, and he gave the range for this position, which is ~3K lower than the same position as advertised on the reed jobs board (which I checked after the interview). What did you think would happen if you admit you don't know how much what you're selling is worth?
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