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TheKingofSprings posted:Randomness is garbage Magic is garbage. Play Chess.
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May 5, 2017 02:16
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TheKingofSprings posted:Randomness is garbage Variance is what makes it a repeatable game worth playing.
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May 5, 2017 02:17
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Here's a talk Garfield gave on the topic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=av5Hf7uOu-o
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May 5, 2017 02:23
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It's garbage that blue continually gets the most mileage out of what should be 5 color mechanics. I say this as someone that loves pure blue permission decks.
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May 5, 2017 02:25
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Elyv posted:Basically it's only really performed a role as a limited smoothing mechanic in Kaladesh itself at best. I'm not sure why it shows up so infrequently, but I'd guess that wotc wants a higher level of randomness in the game than we do. SOI and AKH don't really count because they have their own cardflow mechanics. Mana sink mechanics like Awaken are also mild anti-variance tools in that they help you win specifically the games where you draw too many lands.
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May 5, 2017 02:37
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Smashing Link posted:It's garbage that blue continually gets the most mileage out of what should be 5 color mechanics. I say this as someone that loves pure blue permission decks. It's so dumb that an extremely blue ability is primarily in blue!!!
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May 5, 2017 02:48
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suicidesteve posted:It's so dumb that an extremely blue ability is primarily in blue!!! It's almost like variance control shouldn't be in one colour's wheelhouse or something
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May 5, 2017 02:56
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Read the Bones should be evergreen IMO
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May 5, 2017 03:06
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Tales of Woe posted:Playing 15 land and relying on cycling to hit your land drops is a stupid trap of a strategy in this format and will get you killed vs a lot of decks. 15 lands is correct more often in this draft format than 17. Only time I want to be running 17+ is if you are running the 7+ Mana non-cyclers like convergence or that black enchantment
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May 5, 2017 03:26
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TheKingofSprings posted:It's almost like variance control shouldn't be in one colour's wheelhouse or something it's not--mana smoothing is in green
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May 5, 2017 03:28
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Anybody got a link to a fun Fling list? I saw someone posting about one that used Pummeler and Fling the other day.
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May 5, 2017 03:36
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Soul Glo posted:Anybody got a link to a fun Fling list? I saw someone posting about one that used Pummeler and Fling the other day. https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/603520#paper ??? Edit: Cheaper and better version: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/629228#paper Mezzanon fucked around with this message at 05:22 on May 5, 2017 |
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May 5, 2017 05:20
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suicidesteve posted:It's so dumb that an extremely blue ability is primarily in blue!!! Excuse me, cycling is obviously a red ability, since it's Rummage.
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May 5, 2017 05:46
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Mezzanon posted:Edit: Cheaper and better version: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/629228#paper 68 cards? 
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May 5, 2017 05:58
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Mezzanon posted:https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/603520#paper ??? Thanks! Also, yeah, why 68?
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May 5, 2017 06:11
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PJOmega posted:Excuse me, cycling is obviously a red ability, since it's Rummage.  I never thought about it that way before. But that can't be true because other colors don't get variance reducing mechanisms, only blue. Also I was talking about scry.
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May 5, 2017 06:13
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Bugsy posted:68 cards? Also no sideboard I'm just pulling lists I thought looked cool.
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May 5, 2017 06:37
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Now that i think about it it's weird Mark Poole has a couple of cards in this set. Dude did Ancestral Recall. And Painted Bluffs in Amonkhet.
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May 5, 2017 06:39
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His Foul Orchard reprint looks really good as well, but its just in the walker deck.
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May 5, 2017 06:46
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All y'all who think blue is too good right now are off your rockers.
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May 5, 2017 06:49
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These exist for some reason (they're official)     https://minecraft.net/en-us/article/magic-gathering-comes-minecraft
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May 5, 2017 06:58
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Tamiyo seems like a typical Minecraft player.
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May 5, 2017 07:14
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Am I crazy for wanting to put Eerie Interlude in my RW Humans sideboard for the Engulf the Shores blowout? drat right I'm crazy
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May 5, 2017 07:26
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Standard ✖ Magic Online ✖ Minecraft ✔
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May 5, 2017 07:32
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Firebatgyro posted:15 lands is correct more often in this draft format than 17. Only time I want to be running 17+ is if you are running the 7+ Mana non-cyclers like convergence or that black enchantment
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May 5, 2017 07:33
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Siivola posted:I haven't done the math, but it seems like paying mana to hit land drops should be a losing bet? It's a tricky science, and I don't yet have an opinion on what's right for this format, but the counter example is that you lose less game to flooding -- late game, or because of cycling. You're still very likely to hit land 3 by turn 3 with 15 lands, even w/o cycling (though obviously those odds are not considered good enough in most formats).
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May 5, 2017 07:41
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Rinkles posted:It's a tricky science, and I don't yet have an opinion on what's right for this format, but the counter example is that you lose less game to flooding -- late game, or because of cycling. You're still very likely to hit land 3 by turn 3 with 15 lands, even w/o cycling (though obviously those odds are not considered good enough in most formats). Given how crippling missing land drop #3/a color can be, I think going down to 15 is just too risky.
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May 5, 2017 07:49
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Ein Sexmonster posted:It's a serious difference. You're going from a ~90% chance of hitting 3 or more lands in your first 10 cards to an 83% chance. There's also an unrelated 18% chance that you'll be colorscrewed after seeing 10 cards (with an 8-7 split) vs a 12.5% chance. I wasn't advocating playing 15 lands. I don't know how to account for cycling, never mind what numbers you'd use for number of cyclers in deck/cycling costs. But you can't handwave the problem away by saying that cycling for land drops is bad. It's too simple a statement, and the cost of running more lands is probably even harder to gauge.
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May 5, 2017 08:06
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Running one extra land equates to about a 50 percent chance at having one fewer spell in the late game. If you get flooded and would have needed two more spells to turn a loss into a win, cutting a land wouldn't have done poo poo.
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May 5, 2017 08:12
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That's why decks run more lands than they numerically want, because those first few developing turns are so crucial.
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May 5, 2017 08:20
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Even if you hit your land drop thanks to cycling, you end up one or two mana behind, so at best it's comparable to playing a tapland in this particular case.
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May 5, 2017 08:32
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Star Man posted:Am I crazy for wanting to put Eerie Interlude in my RW Humans sideboard for the Engulf the Shores blowout? Be even crazier and main deck it
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May 5, 2017 12:54
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Jenx posted:So here's what might be an odd question - do any of you know of any write ups or (even better) videos of rotisserie drafts? I know Shotgun Lotus did their Vintage Rotisserie Drafts a few years ago, and those were super fun to watch. Have other people streamed/filmed such? Googling mostly turns up nothing, or just articles explaining what the format is, so I was wondering if anyone has watched/read write ups of such drafts. I did one of the Shotgun Lotus drafts and it was a lot of fun! You need to have a plan, and be ready to turn on a dime. I wanted to do a Grixis tempo deck, but when I had to fight Elliott Woo for it, I went into a Deadguy Ale brew that worked all right. It's super fun, but you have to look at it like a fantasy football draft.
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May 5, 2017 14:33
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Angry Grimace posted:Now that i think about it it's weird Mark Poole has a couple of cards in this set. Huh, I didn't even notice it was Poole. He's got an Island in this set too. I thought they'd basically stopped using him, he's done like 1 other card since Lorwyn.
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May 5, 2017 14:43
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Are they not streaming GP Richmond now? Coverage was supposed to start at 10EST
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May 5, 2017 15:39
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80s James Hetfield posted:Are they not streaming GP Richmond now? Wait, matches start today? I thought Gp's start on saturday.
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May 5, 2017 15:44
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Sickening posted:Wait, matches start today? I thought Gp's start on saturday.
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May 5, 2017 15:50
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Oh, maybe you're right I guess the Reddit says May 5-7 with Day 1 streaming which I would assume Day 1 would be May 5th
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GPs are always 2 day events, PTs are always 3 day events
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