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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:loving ruined. Utterly ruined. Nah it's not that bad, at least they found a way to ditch the dorito!
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Yes let's put all of the heavy batteries in the highest and most forward point we can, I'm sure the handling will be just fine with a weight balance that makes Audi look good.
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Kafouille posted:Yes let's put all of the heavy batteries in the highest and most forward point we can, I'm sure the handling will be just fine with a weight balance that makes Audi look good. 51.5:48.5, so not much more than a typical LS swap. It undoubtedly has a higher center of gravity though.
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May 5, 2017 06:17
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The real crime on that FD is the front license plate mount. gently caress.
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May 5, 2017 06:31
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I never understood the hate of front plates, aside from maybe "THAT'S HOW THE COPS GET YA".
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May 5, 2017 06:45
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iospace posted:I never understood the hate of front plates, aside from maybe "THAT'S HOW THE COPS GET YA". They ruin the lines of the front bumper and look stupid when you're like me and live in a state that doesn't require front plates. I unbolted mine from the front bumper of my Vic within the first hour of owning it.
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May 5, 2017 06:58
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iospace posted:I never understood the hate of front plates, aside from maybe "THAT'S HOW THE COPS GET YA". Mostly because manufacturers don't always conveniently put a proper mount for them there, and some states force drivers to install them, loving up your front fender in the process. NV supremacy NRS 482.275 License plates: Display posted:[Effective until the earlier of January 1, 2017, or the date on which the Director of the Department of Motor Vehicles notifies the Governor and the Director of the Legislative Counsel Bureau that sufficient resources are available to enable the Department to carry out the provisions of chapter 326, Statutes of Nevada 2015, at page 1745.]
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iospace posted:I never understood the hate of front plates, aside from maybe "THAT'S HOW THE COPS GET YA". let me help you 
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Front plates are cool & good. Don’t blame the state for manufacturer incompetence.
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May 5, 2017 07:08
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Wasabi the J posted:Mostly because manufacturers don't always conveniently put a proper mount for them there, and some states force drivers to install them, loving up your front fender in the process. When I took delivery of my car in CA and told them not to drill the front bumper they made me sign some forms saying they told me I should do it and also that I took possession of the BMW factory front plate mounting bracket and hardware. I don't think that would make no front plate legal per those NV rules.
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May 5, 2017 07:37
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Being from the UK where front reg plates are mandatory, cars without them look weird. Especially because most cars over here at least make a concession to a front plate by having a clear mounting point and not requiring drilling the front bumper directly. At least in most cases. There seems to be a trend among owners of 10-15 year old VWs and BMWs of taking off the front plate and displaying it in the windscreen for whatever reason.
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May 5, 2017 08:21
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I bet that handles well. 
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Vitamins posted:Being from the UK where front reg plates are mandatory, cars without them look weird. Especially because most cars over here at least make a concession to a front plate by having a clear mounting point and not requiring drilling the front bumper directly. At least in most cases. I had an Alfa 156 for a while with the off centre front plate and it always looked weird but in a cheeky way.
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Vitamins posted:Being from the UK where front reg plates are mandatory, cars without them look weird. Especially because most cars over here at least make a concession to a front plate by having a clear mounting point and not requiring drilling the front bumper directly. At least in most cases. I'm from the uk and I'm a huge chav who drives around with the plate in the windscreen, to be fair I bought the car like that and it even came with the front plate holder. When I put it on for the MOT man it reminds me how it makes the car look like it has a huge buck tooth and I hate it so I take it off afterwards.
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Finger Prince posted:51.5:48.5, so not much more than a typical LS swap. It undoubtedly has a higher center of gravity though. 200kgs heavier, with the weight higher up and much more forward. Weight balance is nowhere near the be all of handling - you can INSANE handling cars that are wildly forward or reward weighted. There is a Civic in Improved Production that will be clearly hugely FR weihted and nothing can catch it in a corner. Two good reasons why a RX7 handles so well is that the centre of gravity ends up below the ground and the polar inertia is extremely low due to gently caress all being in front of the axle line. An LS swap or this abdomation severly fucks both,. all that mass forward of the axle or higher up? LOL if you think this RX7 will be even close to being the delight the stock one is.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:200kgs heavier, with the weight higher up and much more forward. Weight balance is nowhere near the be all of handling - you can INSANE handling cars that are wildly forward or reward weighted. There is a Civic in Improved Production that will be clearly hugely FR weihted and nothing can catch it in a corner. It's just as much a delight to look at, which is the extent of my experience and probably the only experience I'll ever have with one. Sure it's compromised in handling, but it likely goes like poo poo off a shovel and sounds rad, and you have to admit it's not even close to the worst thing people have done to those cars.
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May 5, 2017 12:55
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:There is a Civic in Improved Production that will be clearly hugely FR weihted and nothing can catch it in a corner. Jordan Cox? Now that guy is Awesome AI poo poo!
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Finger Prince posted:51.5:48.5, so not much more than a typical LS swap. It undoubtedly has a higher center of gravity though. Also holy polar inertia
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Front plate chat... Arizona doesn't even issue front plates (unless you pay for custom plates), let alone require them! Most dealers do not install the front plate holders here.
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track day bro! posted:I'm from the uk and I'm a huge chav who drives around with the plate in the windscreen, to be fair I bought the car like that and it even came with the front plate holder. When I put it on for the MOT man it reminds me how it makes the car look like it has a huge buck tooth and I hate it so I take it off afterwards. Adiabatic posted:Also holy polar inertia  Yeah, it seems no-one ever talks about this when they're fapping over "weight distribution". Looking at you, front-engine-with-rear-transaxle designs.
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Vitamins posted:Being from the UK where front reg plates are mandatory, cars without them look weird. Especially because most cars over here at least make a concession to a front plate by having a clear mounting point and not requiring drilling the front bumper directly. At least in most cases.
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May 5, 2017 14:52
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I haven't had a front plate on my car in a state that requires it for three years now and I've never been dinged for it. Even during traffic stops for unrelated reasons. It's a really silly thing to enforce.
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um excuse me posted:I haven't had a front plate on my car in a state that requires it for three years now and I've never been dinged for it. Even during traffic stops for unrelated reasons. It's a really silly thing to enforce. Same, but for about 10 years. A lot of cops view it as busy work that they don't want to do, and if you don't give them a reason to they'll generally ignore it.
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May 5, 2017 15:12
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I'm going to make a mechanism so I can clip my front plate on and off. They look poo poo!!!
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Chemmy posted:When I took delivery of my car in CA and told them not to drill the front bumper they made me sign some forms saying they told me I should do it and also that I took possession of the BMW factory front plate mounting bracket and hardware. Agreed, seems like this would strictly only help cars from low volume manufacturers that truly don't provide any real option. My CR-V and Grand Cherokee both look wonky as gently caress with front plates, but they both have manufacturer supplied components to mount it. Of course the Jeep one does require drilling the bumper, so maybe it would get a pass. Still... AZ supremacy. Rear plate only, best plate.
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May 5, 2017 15:29
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Indiana is another no front plate state. One of the fee good things about this hell hole.
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On the smoking tire podcast Matt Farrah has mentioned a few times that a buddy of his makes vinyl license plate replicas that you stick on the front of your car and has had an anecdotal 100% success rate with them. I don't live in a front plate state and I don't own a nice car but if I did, that's the way I would go.
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May 5, 2017 16:35
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I know there are plate mount kits that mount to the crash structure underneath the bumper, or the tow point, so you don't have to molest your bumper to comply.
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May 5, 2017 16:45
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When they fitted the front plate to the challenger they drilled the holes crooked so not only did they drill the bumper, they did it poorly. Kind of expected by the people who take 3 attempts to do an alignment on a 9 month old car.
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um excuse me posted:I know there are plate mount kits that mount to the crash structure underneath the bumper, or the tow point, so you don't have to molest your bumper to comply. There's a tow hook mount for my car, I'll buy one if I ever get a fix it ticket for the front plate.
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wrong thread.
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Octopus Magic posted:wrong thread. Yeah, I probably should have posted it in the EV thread.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:Two good reasons why a RX7 handles so well is that the centre of gravity ends up below the ground and the polar inertia is ... Er... wut. I know things are upside-down in Aussieland, but that doesn't seem right. 
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BigPaddy posted:When they fitted the front plate to the challenger they drilled the holes crooked so not only did they drill the bumper, they did it poorly. Kind of expected by the people who take 3 attempts to do an alignment on a 9 month old car. Chrysler 
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Vinyl plates always make me think of morris minors  And you can get powered plate mounts that disappear at the push of a button.
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mekilljoydammit posted:Er... wut. I know things are upside-down in Aussieland, but that doesn't seem right. Naw, man, the RX-7 was famous for the osmium plow! It was this one weird trick road engineers HATE! I'm gonna be nice and go on and assume that CAT INTERCEPTOR probably means the roll center, which CAN be underground and is very much not the same as CG; it's also entirely suspension dependent, so changing the CG doesn't move it. Changing the distance between CG and RC will make the car roll more, though.
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May 5, 2017 18:00
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My Abarth had two sets of holes drilled into the front bumper when I bought it (used). A travesty.
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Unreal_One posted:Naw, man, the RX-7 was famous for the osmium plow! It was this one weird trick road engineers HATE! I'm kind of teasing, yeah. I'm going to admit that I haven't plotted out, but I'd be surprised if the roll center is underground, at least not statically, because it's not really optimum. I'd expect the FD is around 2-3 inches above ground at the front.
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Modus Man posted:On the smoking tire podcast Matt Farrah has mentioned a few times that a buddy of his makes vinyl license plate replicas that you stick on the front of your car and has had an anecdotal 100% success rate with them. I've seen one irl, and it's probably undetectable at 20ft on the move. Would be a real rear end in a top hat cop to take issue with it.
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In the middle east vinyl plates are available. Youll see them on supercars mostly.
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