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Feels Villeneuve posted:what new programming? non-live TV is falling off far more than live television, especially among the markets USA is looking for. USA could try to go after other sports, but TBS kind of ate their lunch on that one. If you are running production of a program you can still make pretty good money in today's climate. For example the money as a network you spend you can recoup from first and repeat airings as well as licensing out to various streaming platforms. For example with Mr. Robot, it is owned, produced and distributed by NBC/Universal so every cent that is earned by the program comes right back into their pockets. Compare that to a famous example; The West Wing which was owned, produced and distributed by Warner Bros. So NBC paid a fee to the distributor and only got the advertising revenue from the first and if applicable rerun airings. All home media sales, streaming and other revenue all went to Warner Bros. So the second that the distribution costs outweighs the advertising revenue it got the axe. This has happened a lot and with the changing landscape in television is why even small channels have invested in their own content as the money you can generate even with a small hit far outweighs the amount that you can make with a massive licensed one. As for live event revenue the reason for that is very simple, they are making more money off of the hardcores. The costs for house shows are now what you would pay for a TV taping ten years ago and TV tapings cost what PPV shows did in the same timeframe. For example I was going to get tickets to the PPV here in Chicago soon but for the amount they were charging I could go to see the Blackhawks in the lower bowl/100 level. The Blackhawks have some of the most expensive tickets in the NHL and I don't go to many games for that reason. Also I got tickets for both the post Christmas Raw and Smackdown tapings at the same venue and those together were less than what they were charging for this PPV, and that is not counting the NXT show the night before. Now how long can they continue to raise prices and how much money can they squeeze out the hardcores? I am not sure but like many of the plays the company is making this is also one that will not end well. You can get away with stuff like this if you have a hot product but with how things are eventually it will all catch up. So let's say that at best the WWE gets the same amount of money via their next television deal. I think that a lot of the moves that are being made right now will end up being time bombs that will catch them. Let's look at this UK expansion, so they are locking up talent with low cost deals and looking to invest a lot of money in this UK division. Now this is because ITV is going to do a wrestling show on free TV, which is never going to be a real competitor to the WWE and would be a good feeder to the company much like RoH is here. Now in a year or two all this money being thrown at a imagined problem will be looked as a major waste and will have the effect of crippling what was a thriving UK scene for probably a decade. Another example is NXT as a touring brand. The amount of money the company is paying to have top talent from elsewhere perform in National Guard Armories in front of 200 people instead of their flagship programs is just stupid. The Performance Center in general seems to be ineffective at generating home grown talent as well, I imagine because most of their shows are full of the best talent in the world and doesn't need developmental training. Those NXT shows should be so people get ring time and get better. It is insane that people in the New Japan Dojo for 3 weeks are better than people who are at the Performance Center for 3 years. I could go on and on but the WWE is a house of cards that could collapse at any time. My prediction is that ultimately the company will be bought by a major media company and things will radically change.
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super macho dude posted:Some really great spoilers in here, folks. Spoilers: the WWE is gonna die!
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Guessing that Bushiroad will take over the WWE in the end, just because it'll still have value as a brand in America, moreso than NJPW anyway. Truly they will become the Global Wrestling Monopoly that Tiger Mask W sought to combat. (Of course, they're going to job out Tiger Mask W to Roman in the end, because some things never change.)
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Spoilers: Money is complicated. I found that all really interesting, though. Maybe we need a wrestlenomics thread.
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Rumour is there may be several WOS wrestlers jumping to WWEUK for this weekends tapings. Can't say I blame them. Most of the WWEUK guys have at least got something from signing up, the WOS guys worked one taping, and now it doesn't look like there will be anything until next year.
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Junpei Hyde posted:I do not think NJPW will buy WWE What kind of Gibsonian cyberpunk future is this?
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KungFu Grip posted:Everyone on twitter was saying its a work injury. I assume by that they mean until she gets a proper 101 with Asuka? I wish that was the case. Meltzer & PWInsider think it is real out of laziness/lack of sources. Like I said before in this thread I looked into it as I was genuinely concerned as she suffered a motherfucker of a shoulder injury on the indies. I wasn't looking for spoilers of spoilers sake. Her injury is a work and they are telling a long term story where Asuka knows the Eclipse will be the death knell for her so Asuka took Ember out in brutal fashion. Their match at the last Takeover based around it.
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rovert posted:This a bit of a holyee poo poo read https://twitter.com/Macey_Estrella/status/860213415251505152 This is a work, just like Sgt. Slaughter wasn't really a sgt. Just FYI!
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Marquis de Pyro posted:This is a work, just like Sgt. Slaughter wasn't really a sgt. Just FYI! Slaughter was a Drill Sargent in the Marine Corp. He's legit.
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hell yeah gently caress her up Liv
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Under the vegetable posted:the marines are poo poo, there has been no moral war and no defensible reason to enter or promote the united states military since at least ww2, and i will be booing this jackbooted fascist. Nice meltdown
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oatgan posted:hell yeah gently caress her up Liv hooters >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the gay marines
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Under the vegetable posted:the marines are poo poo, there has been no moral war and no defensible reason to enter or promote the united states military since at least ww2, and i will be booing this jackbooted fascist. No lies detected, thank you as always
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Super No Vacancy posted:hooters >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the gay marines Gay marines are called pirates.
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Under the vegetable posted:the marines are poo poo, there has been no moral war and no defensible reason to enter or promote the united states military since at least ww2, and i will be booing this jackbooted fascist. This but unitonically
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rovert posted:This a bit of a holyee poo poo read https://twitter.com/Macey_Estrella/status/860213415251505152 i want to live inside her rear end (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Tall, blond, attractive, muscular, has a legit military background ... ... yup, Lacey Evans will be champion by the end of the year. (or at least fast-tracked to the main roster) Benne fucked around with this message at 03:12 on May 6, 2017 |
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Under the vegetable posted:the marines are poo poo, there has been no moral war and no defensible reason to enter or promote the united states military since at least ww2, and i will be booing this jackbooted fascist. Agreed except for the last part you disgusting sexist
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She'll be in The Marine 6: This Time We Have A Marine
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sticklefifer posted:She'll be in The Marine 6: This Time We Have A Marine I still laugh when I think of the time they tried to put Orton in those movies, presumably because "HE WAS A MARINE!  " and it immediately backfired in a way that anyone with half a brain would've seen coming. Which is basically WWE's creative decision making in a nutshell. They think things through to the first hurdle and then shrug, assuming nothing can possibly go wrong after that.
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Mob posted:Agreed except for the last part you disgusting sexist what part was sexist
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oatgan posted:what part was sexist Should have been "jillbooted facist"
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Uh excuse me "personbooted" fascist tyvm
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oatgan posted:what part was sexist I didn't notice him railing against any former MALE troops hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Mob posted:I didn't notice him railing against any former MALE troops hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm I don't know of any other active wrestlers who served
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Under the vegetable posted:I don't know of any other active wrestlers who served JOHN. CENA!  no not really
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Under the vegetable posted:I don't know of any other active wrestlers who served chris melendez has had his prosthetic leg stolen like eight times in the last year
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