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JoelJoel posted:Also, maf is killing it, but obviously our old rear end, former goalie gm is definitely way too smart to fall in love with an aging, locker room guy keeper on a hot streak. Yeah, I mean there's no chance he'll be fooled into keeping the young, consistent, and more talented guy over maf. No way. It could never happen. Yeah and the Caps are gonna trade Ovechkin to New York for scraps too and Tavares is gonna sign in Toronto. Anything else good happening in fantasy land?
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Jason Smith had him some hot takes on Crosby. https://twitter.com/howaboutafresca...otest-take.html “This hit that Crosby took, and hits he’s taken throughout his career, Gretzky never would have taken any of those. Never. Because number one, Gretzky always had players around him who, if you hit Gretzky, you would get your rear end beat by Kurri or Klima or Marty McSorley. But Wayne Gretzky was well-liked, and he was well-respected, by all the players in the game. Sidney Crosby is neither. He is not well-liked, the players hate him, and they don’t respect him. They don’t respect him as a player. They don’t respect the whining, they don’t respect the entitlement, they never have, and Crosby’s had a very difficult NHL career because of it. He’s never gotten that hug that he thought he was going to get, as good as he’s been. Was he Gretzky? No. But is he still a fantastic player? Yeah, absolutely he is. But the players hate him, absolutely hate him. That’s why a hit like this came for Crosby. Players hate him, they don’t respect him.” Of course, famed Oilers enforcers Petr Klima and Jari Kurri
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I'd personally be okay with Sid sitting out tonight and play him in the event a game six is necessary if for no other reason than insurance. I'm afraid he's gonna get on the ice against the Caps, the hot-brains are gonna kick in, and he's gonna become a liability. Post-concussion Sid's behavior is unpredictable.
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May 5, 2017 18:46
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DJExile posted:Jason Smith had him some hot takes on Crosby. I was literally just thinking about this last night. Yes, Crosby has had players come to his aid before but the general NHL mentality nowadays seems to be the best revenge is to win.
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May 5, 2017 18:48
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Also Gretzky still got lit up plenty. I just love picturing Jari Kurri of all loving people as the supposed enforcer
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May 5, 2017 18:50
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Crosby still looks like a Boy and not in that flowing locks handsome young man kind of way, so no one respects him
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"Players don't respect Sidney Crosby" *back-to-back Ted Lindsay Award winner, 3 times in 10 years*
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Neitherman posted:I was literally just thinking about this last night. Yes, Crosby has had players come to his aid before but the general NHL mentality nowadays seems to be the best revenge is to win. Sullivan literally says this. His whole thing is "just play" through all the bullshit, and they've been a lot more disciplined under him. I think it's awesome that they didn't dress sestito Wednesday and that they didn't goon it up really.
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kalensc posted:Regardless of how the series/playoffs end for Pit, if Crosby is healthy (concussion-wise) at the end then I'll be content because I got to witness something wholly unexpected. This was why Hasek was so fun to watch too, flopping all over the place and somehow making a bunch of crazy saves anyways. Ginette Reno posted:I mean it seems like they followed the protocol. He stayed off the ice Wednesday. Assuming he had no symptoms that day they then put him on the ice for a light practice Thursday. With no symptoms there, the next step would be a full contact practice which would have him being just able to play tomorrow provided he feels fine after this practice. Yeah there's a clear process to the concussion protocol. It's ultimately reliant on player self-evaluation to some extent though and I think the odds of Crosby wanting to just play it safe are pretty low. Good Soldier Svejk posted:Murray is on the ice today as well so it's highly possible he's ready to go for the Senators. (Or Rangers, I guess.) But probably the Senators. Honestly do you think they pull MAF after he's been so great? If he has a lovely game then perhaps but until then I think they have to ride the hot streak.
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Neitherman posted:I'd personally be okay with Sid sitting out tonight and play him in the event a game six is necessary if for no other reason than insurance. I'm afraid he's gonna get on the ice against the Caps, the hot-brains are gonna kick in, and he's gonna become a liability. Post-concussion Sid's behavior is unpredictable. Since the Penguins aren't playing tonight I think you'll probably get your wish. huehuehue
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Levitate posted:the defense works well as long as they don't get pinned in their own zone. It's why the last two games against Ottawa have been lopsided in their favor, they've been good at quickly moving it out to transition and Ottawa hasn't been able to generate a cycle. Against a team that can reliably get a cycle going the Rangers D would be in a lot of trouble pittsburgh are like the definition of that team
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a false posted:pittsburgh are like the definition of that team Not without Letang. We've been pretty poo poo at possessing the puck. We're basically winning New York Rangers style right now: strong goaltending + opportunistic counter attacks. I don't know how long it can last. DJExile posted:Jason Smith had him some hot takes on Crosby. e: nm I'm thinking of a different Jason Smith 
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DJExile posted:Jason Smith had him some hot takes on Crosby. whoa whoa whoa, look who jumps in on the first hit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtjLMha0LJk bonus Gretzky throwing a flying knee https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLeNkc5vOTo THE MACHO MAN fucked around with this message at 19:45 on May 5, 2017 |
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I don't really get this narrative that the Caps troubles hang on Ovechkin. Dude is still doing his thing... https://twitter.com/domluszczyszyn/status/860564184462962688 He's awful on possession, but he has been for a while. He's basically a stationary cannon that you put somewhere and then the other four guys just have to use that. Why doesn't Brooks loving Orpik's name ever come up? Or does everybody just assume he's slow and horrible?
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Levitate posted:I think it's often tough to trade for a guy and put him in as a significant part of your offense/gameplan at the trade deadline. Just hard to have enough time to gel with the team brendan smith has done fine, and in fact even better than he was doing with detroit if you believe what RWAS were saying after that trade
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Benson Cunningham posted:Since the Penguins aren't playing tonight I think you'll probably get your wish. Please excuse my idiocy. At least I don't have the hot-brains.
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a false posted:brendan smith has done fine, and in fact even better than he was doing with detroit if you believe what RWAS were saying after that trade He wasn't asked to come in and be a big part of the offense or power play, just play 2nd pairing minutes and PK some. But yeah Shattenkirk not doing well doesn't make me feel great about the Rangers potentially signing him! might be driving down his price though
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I'll interject myself into volume one million of Penschat to let everyone know the Blues last game of the season is probably tonight, which is weird considering the Preds are a bunch of sucky pussies.
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DJExile posted:Jason Smith had him some hot takes on Crosby. I think this is my favorite take on this incident so far for combining the worst of both the pro and anti-Crosby viewpoints because it's implicitly saying that Niskanen concussed Crosby on purpose while trying to say Crosby had it coming.
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bewbies posted:I'll interject myself into volume one million of Penschat to let everyone know the Blues last game of the season is probably tonight, which is weird considering the Preds are a bunch of sucky pussies. I think the more appropriate genitalia based comparison would be a pretty stiff D.
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Ginette Reno posted:Not without Letang. We've been pretty poo poo at possessing the puck. We're basically winning New York Rangers style right now: strong goaltending + opportunistic counter attacks. I don't know how long it can last. True, but Washington is also one of the best possession teams in the league, and certainly the best still in the playoffs. None of the other teams are too scary for PIT, from a possession, high-end talent, or depth perspective. If we get through WSH (and esp if we get Crosby back) I think the scariest thing left for the Pens would be running into super hot goalie. Hank always makes me nervous, though not as much now as 2-3 years ago. And Rinne is on track for potentially the best playoff goalie performance of all-time, so hopefully he cracks soon.
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Sharks Eat Bear posted:True, but Washington is also one of the best possession teams in the league, and certainly the best still in the playoffs. None of the other teams are too scary for PIT, from a possession, high-end talent, or depth perspective. If we get through WSH (and esp if we get Crosby back) I think the scariest thing left for the Pens would be running into super hot goalie. Hank always makes me nervous, though not as much now as 2-3 years ago. And Rinne is on track for potentially the best playoff goalie performance of all-time, so hopefully he cracks soon. Weirdly though, the only game the Caps won so far is when their possession game broke down and they just started trading shots with the Pens. Pittsburgh has been wildly successful with those counterpunches, so maybe playing not-as-good possession teams would hurt them? Basically, gently caress fancy stats.
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I wouldn't say gently caress fancy stats. The thing to remember is that all of the stats aggregate to what, one team having a 60-40 or even 70-30 predicted success rate over the other? Even in those ranges, you'll see upsets. The stats are generally good predictors of what will happen, but only over large numbers of games. Seven is long enough that the good team generally wins, but the worse team still has a chance to upset. Basically, if the Caps kept up what they are doing, I think they would win the majority of games against the Penguins.
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Benson Cunningham posted:I wouldn't say gently caress fancy stats. So you're saying if the Caps' rapidly aging and increasingly demoralized roster can manage to keep up the level of play they have the last two seasons (being literally the best team in the NHL) they should eventually make it through to the Conference finals?  Hang in there, Ovi
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Chad Sexington posted:Weirdly though, the only game the Caps won so far is when their possession game broke down and they just started trading shots with the Pens. Pittsburgh has been wildly successful with those counterpunches, so maybe playing not-as-good possession teams would hurt them? On the other hand the Pens have gotten out to leads in all games but game 3 so it's not all that surprising the Caps are piling up shots given score effects. The Pens would probably be well served to not try to turtle for almost an entire game though like they've tended to.
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How big have their leads been? I don't think score effects kick in for a oen goal lead
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People like tanner glass now? What the gently caress
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Levitate posted:How big have their leads been? I don't think score effects kick in for a oen goal lead They've built two goals lead in games 1, 2, and 4. e: They've also blown those two goal leads in games 1 and 4 but amazingly still won both games
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Glambags posted:People like tanner glass now? What the gently caress he was Legitimately Very Good last game which i don't think the worst player in the league should be able to do even by accident so if he's got that capability within him and achieves it i am all for his success
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Ginette Reno posted:They've built two goals lead in games 1, 2, and 4. There gonna win game 5, it'll all be over, and I can get some loving sleep at night again! (Sorry, I hadn't meltdown posted today and was starting to get the shakes...)
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Chad Sexington posted:Weirdly though, the only game the Caps won so far is when their possession game broke down and they just started trading shots with the Pens. Pittsburgh has been wildly successful with those counterpunches, so maybe playing not-as-good possession teams would hurt them? Yeah I'm more thinking about possession over the course of the season. I don't think playing worse possession teams would hurt the Pens at all. If MAF keeps up his level of play (big if) and if the Pens can keep scoring at a decent clip (smaller if), then it probably doesn't matter too much. But if MAF comes back to earth at all, they won't be able to survive a series against a team that's dominating possession as much as WSH is now. But yeah, possession stats aren't some perfect predictor, no matter how you cut them, but they are a pretty important thing to consider when you're thinking about potential match ups. I still think that in terms of possession, high end talent and depth, WSH is the scariest team still in the mix. With a healthy Crosby, the Pens are right up there too, and I think NSH is the other scary team. The other teams are all still pretty good and at this point I wouldn't really be surprised if any of them won the cup, but I also wouldn't bet on any of them.
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Glambags posted:People like tanner glass now? What the gently caress I remember seeing him park a Toyota Tercel in Kitsilano and when he noticed me noticing his lovely car, he looked a little angry and sheepish
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:So you're saying if the Caps' rapidly aging and increasingly demoralized roster can manage to keep up the level of play they have the last two seasons (being literally the best team in the NHL) they should eventually make it through to the Conference finals? I honestly think it's remarkable they haven't won a cup in the last decade.
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bewbies posted:tanner glass is still better at hockey than any of us will ever be at anything you dont think there are some goons who are all time great like... masturbators? eaters? pedantry? gotta be something!
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bewbies posted:tanner glass is still better at hockey than any of us will ever be at anything I'm pretty good at not suffering cognitive degeneration from repeated head injuries and I feel like he probably can't say the same.
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Score effects are only part of the story, Caps shot rates have been high even when not trailing plenty of stretches in this series. Matchups have been a problem at moments; think of Alzner and Orpik watching Hornqvist skate right by. They've had some bad luck with shots including hitting 4 posts in one of these games, but there's been some major errors on their part at bad times and they're making their own luck to a large extent. Holtby has been great for stretches and then... I dunno. The penalties speak for themselves and say a couple things. Honestly, I do think there's a psychological element at play. They're gripping the stick too tight, which sounds like some old time horseshit but playing with confidence is a very real thing and the Caps have looked less confident than they have all season for parts of these playoffs. The start of game 4 was so disjointed and unfocused and just terrible hockey from them. I don't know how you fix that; maybe they just need a little luck for a stretch. If they lose tomorrow the choke will be the story, but they haven't been so far from winning. In match-ups like this one, little differences define postseason hockey. e: I got distracted halfway through writing that, so I'll just leave this. Imagine it goes up with the thing about matchups and is mostly referring to which 6 defensemen are skated each night. https://twitter.com/JapersRink/status/838915911696461824 glynnenstein fucked around with this message at 00:12 on May 6, 2017 |
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