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BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy
I do wonder if as many people would go on the bat to defend Marxist criticism.

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Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Why wouldn't they. Eat the rich.

Playstation 4
Apr 25, 2014
Unlockable Ben

Perfect Opinions posted:

Why wouldn't they. Eat the rich.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Terrible Opinions posted:

Did she talk about all the racist makeup bullshit Rita Hayworth had to go through?

The video is about the opposite kind of whitewashing, where movies have white people play roles that aren't white.

People bag on Anita Sarkeesian for being severe and direct in her videos, but as someone who has been marinated in a stew of irony and cynicism since I was 12, like most people who share my politics and interests, it's refreshing to see somebody earnest and sensitive enough to be properly appalled at our disgusting species.

Sometimes I wish I could.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



I feel as though an actress being forced to have plastic surgery and wear makeup to appear white and then having brownface applied over that to portray her birth ethnicity in a movie could fit into either discussion, but point taken.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

I didn't know she had to be re-ethnitized to play her actual ethnicity after they made her white by burning off her hairline. That's more hosed up than regular hosed-up.

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



To be fair I only knew that because of the You Must Remember This podcast.

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014

Terrible Opinions posted:

To be fair I only knew that because of the You Must Remember This podcast.

apropos, the Lena Horne episode has a really good segment that touches on a better example.

Lena longed to play Julie in "Show Boat" (a light skinned black woman) but got rejected. She got rejected in favor of her very white, tonedeaf, best friend ava Gardner who got the exact same "darkening" makeup that she herself usually got. She also, along with fellow black actress Dorothy Dandrigde, got rejected in favor of a blond white woman for the leading role in "Pinky" about a lightskinned black woman passing as a white woman.

It would be kind of cool to compare that to the whole Nina Simone biopic, where instead of getting a great actress with darker features they opted to darken Zoe Saldanas skin and give her a prosthetic nose. Really ironic for a biopic about someone who struggled so greatly with being a very (black looking)"unattractive" , darkskinned entertainer.



But seriously listen to You Must Remember This.

For the longest time the only review was by some dude who gave it one star due to the "political left leaning agenda". Dude you're listening to a podcast that has child actresses getting raped and drugged, gay people and POCs getting ostracized, and an entire series on loving Mccarthyisme happening. Hollywood and movies have in no way ever been political and not peachy in anyway, yessireee. Good to see so many 5 star reviewson it now though.

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


BravestOfTheLamps posted:

I do wonder if as many people would go on the bat to defend Marxist criticism.

*raises hand*

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Sarcopenia posted:

But seriously listen to You Must Remember This.

AriadneThread
Feb 17, 2011

The Devil sounds like smoke and honey. We cannot move. It is too beautiful.


you must remember to listen to you must remember this

cat doter
Jul 27, 2006



gonna need more cheese...australia has a lot of crackers

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

I do wonder if as many people would go on the bat to defend Marxist criticism.

like marxist feminist criticism isn't the most common kind of marxist criticism you colossal dipshit

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


Like, we've had discussions about marxist theory, in this very thread, on more than one occasion, that you yourself were involved in, BotL. Way to know your audience, dude.
Just go smugly ask Bernie Sanders if he would be so nice to the socialists, why not.

Augus fucked around with this message at 18:47 on May 5, 2017

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

Augus posted:

Like, we've had discussions about marxist theory, in this very thread, on more than one occasion, that you yourself were involved in, BotL. Way to know your audience, dude.
Just go smugly ask Bernie Sanders if he would be so nice to the socialists, why not.

Lol what are you on about, I have nothing against Sanders and would have voted for him if I was an American.

Trojan Kaiju
Feb 13, 2012


BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Lol what are you on about, I have nothing against Sanders and would have voted for him if I was an American.

They are making fun of how oblivious you are, not citing an example, but you are too oblivious to notice it.

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

Trojan Kaiju posted:

They are making fun of how oblivious you are, not citing an example, but you are too oblivious to notice it.

Well you have to admit, going for Sanders-hate is bit of a reach.


it may be a controversial opinion, but I like hbomberguy's videos.

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


BravestOfTheLamps posted:

Well you have to admit, going for Sanders-hate is bit of a reach.

I'm telling you how dumb it is to smugly ask a bunch of leftists if they would be so willing to defend Marxists. :thejoke:

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

Augus posted:

I'm telling you how dumb it is to smugly ask a bunch of leftists if they would be so willing to defend Marxists. :thejoke:

Oh, I thought it was something about the criticism of Sanders not being leftie enough :blush:

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

I can't watch because I'm at work, but ContraPoints is currently debating some piece of poo poo who goes by "Roamingmillennial." The reason? Roamingmillennial loves Richard Spencer and wants to demonstrate how ok and good that is.

The debate should be running currently on the Contrapointslive channel he uses for that stuff.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Or maybe it's just through patreon. If so that's a shame.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Never mind: it's here

https://youtu.be/Aail_076c_c

Teen girls just love nazis, I guess.

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

Boy, as you'd be surprised to figure, the chat is total loving garbage.

Also the related videos from the roamingmillennial person look like garbage just the same.

DoubleCakes
Jan 14, 2015


Pretty convincing! I will likely never play Yooka-Laylee but from what I gather from this video and reception to the toybox that got released to Kickstarter backers the game feels great to play. It seems like they cut back on the collectathoning and made more compact environments YL's reception would have been positive

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

I'd imagine that a "I'm just one of the guys; not like those bitches" girl who throws in with nazis is like a worst-of-the-worst hat trick in terms of fans. It must be like a perfect storm of human garbage.

Puppy Time
Mar 1, 2005


Isn't HBG like openly Marxist, at least in his political stuff?

(I have trouble distinguishing all the different flavors of Communist/Socialist/whatever I am in the US please send help)

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

Jack Gladney posted:

I'd imagine that a "I'm just one of the guys; not like those bitches" girl who throws in with nazis is like a worst-of-the-worst hat trick in terms of fans. It must be like a perfect storm of human garbage.

She just said she's asian as well in some dumb runoff word salad.

"Let me, a non-white, come to your aide, kind nazis."

Also she keeps pulling the "B-buh, they shouldn't be shut out, we should just have to explain why they're wrong after they get their platform!" poo poo and it's mind boggling that anyone still thinks this works.

Yardbomb fucked around with this message at 21:04 on May 5, 2017

Falstaff
Apr 27, 2008

I have a kind of alacrity in sinking.

Puppy Time posted:

Isn't HBG like openly Marxist, at least in his political stuff?

(I have trouble distinguishing all the different flavors of Communist/Socialist/whatever I am in the US please send help)

Well, he can probably speak for himself since he posts here occasionally, but he said in his video on cultural marxism (iirc) he's never actually read Das Kapital, so it seems unlikely. (Though there's more to Marxism than just that book, so it's still in the realm of possibility.)

FoldableHuman
Mar 26, 2017

Sarcopenia posted:

apropos, the Lena Horne episode has a really good segment that touches on a better example.

Lena longed to play Julie in "Show Boat" (a light skinned black woman) but got rejected. She got rejected in favor of her very white, tonedeaf, best friend ava Gardner who got the exact same "darkening" makeup that she herself usually got. She also, along with fellow black actress Dorothy Dandrigde, got rejected in favor of a blond white woman for the leading role in "Pinky" about a lightskinned black woman passing as a white woman.

It would be kind of cool to compare that to the whole Nina Simone biopic, where instead of getting a great actress with darker features they opted to darken Zoe Saldanas skin and give her a prosthetic nose. Really ironic for a biopic about someone who struggled so greatly with being a very (black looking)"unattractive" , darkskinned entertainer.



But seriously listen to You Must Remember This.

For the longest time the only review was by some dude who gave it one star due to the "political left leaning agenda". Dude you're listening to a podcast that has child actresses getting raped and drugged, gay people and POCs getting ostracized, and an entire series on loving Mccarthyisme happening. Hollywood and movies have in no way ever been political and not peachy in anyway, yessireee. Good to see so many 5 star reviewson it now though.

Jesus.

I'm sold.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO
Hbomb's Yooka Laylee video has pushed me from "Looks neat, maybe I'll get it on sale sometime." to "I need this ASAP".

Jimbot
Jul 22, 2008

Yardbomb posted:

She just said she's asian as well in some dumb runoff word salad.

"Let me, a non-white, come to your aide, kind nazis."

Also she keeps pulling the "B-buh, they shouldn't be shut out, we should just have to explain why they're wrong after they get their platform!" poo poo and it's mind boggling that anyone still thinks this works.

I mean, Derek Black was convinced how toxic white nationalism is but that was done by a group of his now close friends by inviting him into their dorms to talk about stuff. It's not something you do after you give them a platform to spread their bile. It's not something you do on a debate stage while millions of people watch.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

FoldableHuman posted:

Jesus.

I'm sold.

YMRT is seriously one of the best podcasts on the internet.

I Before E
Jul 2, 2012

Alaois posted:

YMRT is seriously one of the best podcasts on the internet.

I keep forgetting to listen to it, and also I mix it up with One From The Vaults constantly.

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

I recommended it in another thread but the YMRT series Charles Manson's Hollywood is essentially a fantastic longform for people like me who don't have the patience to read longforms. I'd say listen to the one-off episode Frank Sinatra In Space to get a taste and then either Charles Manson's Hollywood or MGM Stories.

Viewtiful Jew
Apr 21, 2007
Mench'n-a-go-go-baby!
I liked that the Y-L vid brought up a point about how going into a different area/cell separate from an overworld has a specific feeling and is probably why BOTW and areas therein can seem small. Because everything in the game has to be open-air we can't get houses or caves with gigantic insides as easily as we could in a game that would just teleport you to another cell.

poparena
Oct 31, 2012

If you want more Yooka-Laylee defense, KingK put up a video today on it.

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

MariusLecter posted:

Hbomb's Yooka Laylee video has pushed me from "Looks neat, maybe I'll get it on sale sometime." to "I need this ASAP".

I was thinking about buying it before it came out, but decided against it when the initial reception was pretty negative. I'd like to give it a shot now, but I'm wondering if it'd be better to play Banjo-Kazooie first, and whether I should get it for PC or PS4.

BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy
I'm sorry, but you're defying the internet consensus and that's against the principles of internet criticism.

Mokinokaro
Sep 11, 2001

At the end of everything, hold onto anything



Fun Shoe
Y-L's entire problem is that people believe Banjo Kazooie was better than it actually was.

Every "fault" that Yooka Laylee has existed in the old games as well (except the voices are more grating but that's getting patched.). Its a near perfect spiritual successor to a game type that doesn't seem to be nearly as popular nowadays.

Sarcopenia
May 14, 2014

BravestOfTheLamps posted:

I'm sorry, but you're defying the internet consensus and that's against the principles of internet criticism.

Do we have a smiley that roles it's eyes so hard into their skull that their head explodes?

We've had thousands of pages (I do know that there are not actually thousands of pages in this thread. I'm saying this so you don't have to pretend to be dense before you google some academic article that shows why I'm wrong in thinking that you're not in fact extremely annoying) of discussions that I've found mind numbingly, dumb and boring but you are seriously the worst thing about this this thread.

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BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

Sarcopenia posted:

Do we have a smiley that roles it's eyes so hard into their skull that their head explodes?

We've had thousands of pages (I do know that there are not actually thousands of pages in this thread. I'm saying this so you don't have to pretend to be dense before you google some academic article that shows why I'm wrong in thinking that you're not in fact extremely annoying) of discussions that I've found mind numbingly, dumb and boring but you are seriously the worst thing about this this thread.

Actually, by switching the options on your account you can make it so that this thread is thousands of pages long.

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