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dsriggs posted:do her supporters GENUINELY think that she's a 1st class candidate & don't just support her because vagina in the White House? Holy poo poo, yes. They fully internalize the talking points (that you can't take seriously) about 'most qualified candidate ever' and 'sexist/racist berniebros' and '(All) Populism == Trumpism'
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Maya Fey posted:
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Accretionist posted:Holy poo poo, yes. They fully internalize the talking points (that you can't take seriously) about 'most qualified candidate ever' and 'sexist/racist berniebros' and '(All) Populism == Trumpism' It's actually kind of impressive to behold a true believer and sit in wonder of how far they can shove their head up their own rear end in a top hat.
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Nuclearmonkee posted:It's actually kind of impressive to behold a true believer and sit in wonder of how far they can shove their head up their own rear end in a top hat. Have you seen JeffersonClay's post history in D&D?
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Alienwarehouse posted:Have you seen JeffersonClay's post history in D&D? I haven't posted in there since after the election when they were melting down and were incredibly ripe for trolling but there are a lot of those types in there.
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Accretionist posted:Holy poo poo, yes. They fully internalize the talking points (that you can't take seriously) about 'most qualified candidate ever' and 'sexist/racist berniebros' and '(All) Populism == Trumpism' dont forget "Abandon stupid identity politics? WE ARE NOT THROWING BROWNS AND GAYS AND WOMEN UNDER THE BUS" 
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one of the reasons i don't support hillary running in 2020 is because trump is most likely not going to reverse everyone's opinion of himself by then. any signature legislation will most likely hurt his constituents so he's sort of stuck in a corner where he needs to do something to remain popular and relevant but all the things he wants to do suck so hillary would most likely actually win if she ran and the absolute last thing i want is any sort of vindication or legitimization of her and her bullshit style of politics
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May 5, 2017 18:55
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RaySmuckles posted:one of the reasons i don't support hillary running in 2020 is because trump is most likely not going to reverse everyone's opinion of himself by then. any signature legislation will most likely hurt his constituents so he's sort of stuck in a corner where he needs to do something to remain popular and relevant but all the things he wants to do suck well at least in my retarded corner of the country he 100% solidified support by doing the softwood lumber import tariff he could probably serve human infants in a banquet of blood and keep their support
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Nuclearmonkee posted:I haven't posted in there since after the election when they were melting down and were incredibly ripe for trolling but there are a lot of those types in there. There was a small one week window where their delusions were completely shattered by Trump's win and they had to come to grips with reality. Unfortunately most of D&D have dismissed Trump as the result of evil Russian influence.
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Nuclearmonkee posted:well at least in my retarded corner of the country he 100% solidified support by doing the softwood lumber import tariff Trump ending TPP will almost single handedly make up for the bad things he's going to do.
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RaySmuckles posted:one of the reasons i don't support hillary running in 2020 is because trump is most likely not going to reverse everyone's opinion of himself by then. any signature legislation will most likely hurt his constituents so he's sort of stuck in a corner where he needs to do something to remain popular and relevant but all the things he wants to do suck there is an incredibly high bar for screwing his constituency over more than the status quo functioning properly already was, especially in ways that can't be blamed on outside factors; if he can land one or two token gestures that mean little to nothing to their lives but are more than the neoliberals would have offered them and manages to not literally start a nuclear apocalypse he'll have their votes Yug posted:Trump ending TPP will almost single handedly make up for the bad things he's going to do. A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 19:07 on May 5, 2017 |
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The fact the tpp is dead is so good and seeing anyone who calls themselves leftist bitch and moan over its grave is amusing and telling of their traitorous nature.
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basic hitler posted:The fact the tpp is dead is so good and seeing anyone who calls themselves leftist bitch and moan over its grave is amusing and telling of their traitorous nature. Any one got a good link on just how/why the TPP was bad? I'm probably going to have to argue that at some point in the future.
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BexGu posted:Any one got a good link on just how/why the TPP was bad? I'm probably going to have to argue that at some point in the future. It made corporations have more power over federal governments within the deal. Because, you know, corporations don't have enough power over them already. Specifically, it would've torpedoed U.S. labor rights and wages by allowing American corporations to simply move their assets to any country in the deal without penalties.
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BexGu posted:Any one got a good link on just how/why the TPP was bad? I'm probably going to have to argue that at some point in the future. It's basically just a way for corporations to challenge laws they don't like and outsource jobs in the continued race for the bottom. If you want walls of text explaining specifics just google WHY TPP BAD and pick an article.
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Alienwarehouse posted:It made corporations have more power over federal governments within the deal. Because, you know, corporations don't have enough power over them already. yeah, pretty much this. google ISDS for the mechanism through which much of this is accomplished. plus it further engrained patent and IP claims, essentially stagnating innovation and development and further legitimizing patent trolling. it wasn't all bad, for sure. but it had plenty of things that were red flags
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May 5, 2017 19:14
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Can we please emulate the Roman republic and get on with the proscription lists already?
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Also, this is still proposed, and it's essentially the TPP on steroids: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_in_Services_Agreement We only know about this thanks to Wikileaks. Now, ask yourself; why would they negotiate something like this in secret? Because it completely fucks over everyone except the ultra-wealthy Now you know why the establishment hates Wikileaks so much.
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Alienwarehouse posted:Also, this is still proposed, and it's essentially the TPP on steroids: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trade_in_Services_Agreement#Controversy B-b-but the Russians hacked us and leaked it, those dastardly Russians! Please ignore that the material leaked is real and proves that we are completely irredeemable shitlords. Russians!
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It's really telling that up until last summer the actual nature of TPP was still being ironed out and whenever the public asked for details they went "we can't tell you, it's a secret!" Then they cosseted people with the promise that the full text of the agreement would be available for perusal within a couple of months, right before the agreement was to be signed. I had a brief spat on another forum (guess which) where I was asking how on earth we were supposed to trust such an agreement that was being kept so secret, especially an agreement between twelve countries. Then I got accused of being a phony Infowars account and told to gently caress off because "this is a grownup conversation and TPP is completely good (even though I, like you, have not read the deal)". The nail in it's coffin, I think, was that Hillary supported and then pretended she didn't.
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Alienwarehouse posted:It made corporations have more power over federal governments within the deal. Because, you know, corporations don't have enough power over them already. The corporations literally wrote the TPP.
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spacetoaster posted:The corporations literally wrote the TPP. We had to pass it for Obama's Legacy.
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Nuclearmonkee posted:if she is the democratic nominee the orange man will run for re-election and win, but by a larger margin He's already filed to run in 2020
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Nuclearmonkee posted:B-b-but the Russians hacked us and leaked it, those dastardly Russians! Please ignore that the material leaked is real and proves that we are completely irredeemable shitlords. Russians! Maddow:  "The attack on our election"
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RaySmuckles posted:one of the reasons i don't support hillary running in 2020 is because trump is most likely not going to reverse everyone's opinion of himself by then. any signature legislation will most likely hurt his constituents so he's sort of stuck in a corner where he needs to do something to remain popular and relevant but all the things he wants to do suck This is my fear too
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I don't know that we'll have to wait for senators stabbing eachother. It seems possible that by 2020 politicians may actually go full crazy and start calling their detractors and opponents Nazis. That's when we'll know we're really through the looking glass.
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RaySmuckles posted:one of the reasons i don't support hillary running in 2020 is because trump is most likely not going to reverse everyone's opinion of himself by then. any signature legislation will most likely hurt his constituents so he's sort of stuck in a corner where he needs to do something to remain popular and relevant but all the things he wants to do suck Hillary's lust for power knows no bounds, so I wouldn't rule it out.
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Alienwarehouse posted:Hillary's lust for power knows no bounds, so I wouldn't rule it out. Yet that husk of a body can only last so long. Unless......Hillary can find the secret to Strom Thurmond phylactery and recreate the ritual....
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BexGu posted:Yet that husk of a body can only last so long. Unless......Hillary can find the secret to Strom Thurmond phylactery and recreate the ritual.... Why do you think she keeps Huma around
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skasion posted:Why do you think she keeps Huma around Pfffffftttt, every one know you get more power if you sacrifice you'r flesh and blood over your protegee/lover.
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Toadvine posted:How is it that nobody has the necessary sway to have a private aside with Hillary and tell her she's had her chances but now it's someone else's turn. It's probably because everyone in the Democratic party is afraid of her. Cross her and she'll have your career ruined, or worse. Bill tried to talk some sense into her, but there's just no use.
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Gammatron 64 posted:It's probably because everyone in the Democratic party is afraid of her. Cross her and she'll have your career ruined, or worse. Still amazed that they replaced Bill with HAL 9000.
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Gammatron 64 posted:It's probably because everyone in the Democratic party is afraid of her. Cross her and she'll have your career ruined, or worse. That answers my first point but not my second. Couldn't some dollars and sense billionaire dem supporter take Hillary for a ride in the car and explain that it's simply not tenable to back her third charge at the presidency? Then they could stop for pizza to soften the blow.
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Toadvine posted:That answers my first point but not my second. Couldn't some dollars and sense billionaire dem supporter take Hillary for a ride in the car and explain that it's simply not tenable to back her third charge at the presidency? Then they could stop for pizza to soften the blow. Tell them they've mistaken ruthlessness for competence.
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Maya Fey posted:the republicans just signed a bill that literally kills people to fund tax breaks for the rich but democrats still insist universal healthcare is a fantasy I blame Bernie for this one. He has his sycophants focused on "muh single payer" when there are a lot better ways to get universal coverage. But now his brain dead followers won't accept anything less than a healthcare system run like the VA you can;t escape from.
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