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Namnesor
Jun 29, 2005

Dante's allowance - $100

SyntheticPolygon posted:

I don't like being locked from confidants for the majority of the game because I need rank 4 guts and I only have rank 1.

Coward.

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Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

stuff like no s. link requiring a proficiency unlock and then you randomly being bombarded with a rank 4 and rank 5 wall towards the end of the game is just designed to punish players who didnt know how to spend their time.

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




Game is cool and good and I'm glad I spent 70 hours on finishing it.

I got all confidants maxed out so I have their special items, if I dip into NG+ to play trophy hunter is there any stacking benefit to completing them all again or is it just going to be the arcana burst gains and picking up whatever tier skills the items done give you?

TheOneAndOnlyT
Dec 18, 2005

Well well, mister fancy-pants, I hope you're wearing your matching sweater today, or you'll be cut down like the ugly tree you are.
God loving dammit I just got spoiled on a major late-game fight because some rear end in a top hat decided to put "This is a great Persona for the fight against <spoiler>!" on a Persona whose fusion recipe I was looking up :ughh:

Turtlicious
Sep 17, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Scorps posted:

If you weren't maxing confidants or attributes while you were "sleeping on it" tho what exactly were you doing just out of curiousity?

I didn't understand what the cards meant, and I spent a lot of time with confidants but they weren't increasing. I wasted a ton of time with Sojiro, and I worked a lot, I maxed out all my stats, because I thought that was why certain people were showing up with greyed out names. I basically wasted the first 2 or 3 months.

I also spent a ton of time grinding for Persona's in Mementos.

Also, because I was going for Kawakami first, I had to grind up Guts, which takes the longest in the early game

Ross Perowned
Jun 14, 2012

Shit in my hand and say yeah
I too like social stats, as complexity of the non-combat combat parts of the game would be thrown out the window if it were removed. It's like a challenging worker-placement euro board game, and the MC is the meeple.

ROFL Octopus
Jun 20, 2014

LET ME EXPLAIN

History Comes Inside! posted:

Game is cool and good and I'm glad I spent 70 hours on finishing it.

I got all confidants maxed out so I have their special items, if I dip into NG+ to play trophy hunter is there any stacking benefit to completing them all again or is it just going to be the arcana burst gains and picking up whatever tier skills the items done give you?

There aren't any stacking benefits but you have to earn confidant bonuses back on a case-by-case basis.

For example, Moon gives you 100% exp to your backup members right when you establish it, but you'll have to raise Star to get anything beyond Joker switching party members and instant escape.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Endorph posted:

stuff like no s. link requiring a proficiency unlock and then you randomly being bombarded with a rank 4 and rank 5 wall towards the end of the game is just designed to punish players who didnt know how to spend their time.

Yeah, even if social stats as a concept aren't necessarily bad, Persona 5 is unnecessarily punishing about them, especially Proficiency. I was lucky enough to have spent my time well in the first half of the game so I could be kinda sloppy and still max all confidants, but Proficiency really could've screwed me if I wasn't.

Persona 5 is just way too aggressive with the stat gates, basically.

NRVNQSR
Mar 1, 2009
Since Proficiency lets you build more tools there is at least a small incentive to raise it before those stat gates. I don't think any of the other stats are used for anything except social link stat gates and burgers?

I don't count exams because Nanako isn't in this game so who cares.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things

NRVNQSR posted:

Since Proficiency lets you build more tools there is at least a small incentive to raise it before those stat gates. I don't think any of the other stats are used for anything except social link stat gates and burgers?

I don't count exams because Nanako isn't in this game so who cares.

Doing well on exams raises your charm.

Huge drop from P4 where it gated good items and P3 where it gated a social link

Lotus Aura
Aug 16, 2009

KNEEL BEFORE THE WICKED KING!
Sojiro DOES give you stuff for doing well on your exams. Like for doing okay on the second one he gives you the Dandy Mirror, a Joker-exclusive accessory that repels Physical stuff.

ROFL Octopus
Jun 20, 2014

LET ME EXPLAIN

New game + is pretty loving cool because (full game spoilers, vaguely)

I have every non-story social link done at 11/20, except for Empress and Tower, both of which are at 9 and ready to rank up

Maybe that's a little too much leeway but I know whenever I feel like playing this game in the future, I have to go NG+.

anime was right
Jun 27, 2008

death is certain
keep yr cool
social stats would be fine if they made sense in terms of progression and giving you choice on who to hang out w/ early. rank 5 kindness or w/e is cool to get to the final part of a social link, not the halfway through or god forbid the start.

id also be cool if they made demon negotiation easier. rank 5 kindness lets you get upbeat demons under your level instantly or w/e. also an in combat buff if you max them. guts saves you from death once. kindness guarantees MC isn't hit by the first status ailment debuff etc

basically it'd do the stuff social links do for other party members to the MC.

anime was right fucked around with this message at 00:02 on May 6, 2017

Colorspray
Aug 30, 2007

PS4 owners, I'm curious:

Is there still the occasional low-res/muddy texture? The ps3 version is mostly fine and the videos indicate it's mostly the same, but every now and there'll be a stray element that looks like it was designed ten years ago for ps2 hardware (probably an obvious reason for that). It was really noticeable on the slot machines.

Do the slot machines look like poo poo on ps4? this is extremely important.

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021
Just beat P5. What a wild loving ride. Definitely gonna come back to it for NG+ later on but Christ the endgame exhausted me.

Edit: 77 hours 56 minutes and I finished at level 73.

TaurusOxford fucked around with this message at 00:44 on May 6, 2017

Squats
Nov 4, 2009


Colorspray posted:

PS4 owners, I'm curious:

Is there still the occasional low-res/muddy texture? The ps3 version is mostly fine and the videos indicate it's mostly the same, but every now and there'll be a stray element that looks like it was designed ten years ago for ps2 hardware (probably an obvious reason for that). It was really noticeable on the slot machines.

Do the slot machines look like poo poo on ps4? this is extremely important.

I don't remember the slot machines specifically, but there were definitely stand out lovely artifacted textures like on Madarame's shack and White Rider's eyeball horse.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Colorspray posted:

PS4 owners, I'm curious:

Is there still the occasional low-res/muddy texture? The ps3 version is mostly fine and the videos indicate it's mostly the same, but every now and there'll be a stray element that looks like it was designed ten years ago for ps2 hardware (probably an obvious reason for that). It was really noticeable on the slot machines.

Do the slot machines look like poo poo on ps4? this is extremely important.

There were definitely a few low-res textures here and there but nothing too glaring.

ChaosArgate
Oct 10, 2012

Why does everyone think I'm going to get in trouble?

Nothing quite as bad as this brown crate thing from NieR Automata, at least!

Colorspray
Aug 30, 2007

Thanks! Was wondering if it addressed a few problem areas. In particular, the repeating casino corridor texture with flyers all over the walls was really something else. It was like I stumbled into a Godhand level. Not that I mind, Godhand ruled.

DalaranJ
Apr 15, 2008

Yosuke will now die for you.

Ross Perowned posted:

It's like a challenging worker-placement euro board game, and the MC is the meeple.

This is why Kawakami is the best confidant.

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

Colorspray posted:

PS4 owners, I'm curious:

Is there still the occasional low-res/muddy texture? The ps3 version is mostly fine and the videos indicate it's mostly the same, but every now and there'll be a stray element that looks like it was designed ten years ago for ps2 hardware (probably an obvious reason for that). It was really noticeable on the slot machines.

Do the slot machines look like poo poo on ps4? this is extremely important.
It's def a PS4 thing too, the train maps in the Underground path are like, completely unreadable

ROFL Octopus
Jun 20, 2014

LET ME EXPLAIN

Colorspray posted:

PS4 owners, I'm curious:

Is there still the occasional low-res/muddy texture? The ps3 version is mostly fine and the videos indicate it's mostly the same, but every now and there'll be a stray element that looks like it was designed ten years ago for ps2 hardware (probably an obvious reason for that). It was really noticeable on the slot machines.

Do the slot machines look like poo poo on ps4? this is extremely important.

PS4 looks super neat. Basically the art style carries it through so you probably won't have any problems.

TaurusOxford posted:

Just beat P5. What a wild loving ride. Definitely gonna come back to it for NG+ later on but Christ the endgame exhausted me.

Edit: 77 hours 56 minutes and I finished at level 73.

Congrats! I played the last quarter of the game pretty drunk so I'd rather not share my time, but I hope you're ready to try New Game + sometime soon!

Goodguy3
Aug 11, 2016

"What?! I'm not tangled up like this for fun, you know!"
Alright, I want to ask this now. I'm at Shido's palace, and want to verify whether or not a forced time skip to the deadline or later will take place if I steal the treasure from Shido's palace before said deadline, or will it do like the others where the objective changes to "wait for the change of heart to take place". Of course, there could be another twist ahead for all I know, I just want to be sure if I should just go for it or go ahead and use up the 22 spare days I now have after managing to one-round the treasure route.

I ask because I recall something similar happening in a similar situation in Persona 4.

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

Goodguy3 posted:

Alright, I want to ask this now. I'm at Shido's palace, and want to verify whether or not a forced time skip to the deadline or later will take place if I steal the treasure from Shido's palace before said deadline, or will it do like the others where the objective changes to "wait for the change of heart to take place". Of course, there could be another twist ahead for all I know, I just want to be sure if I should just go for it or go ahead and use up the 22 spare days I now have after managing to one-round the treasure route.

I ask because I recall something similar happening in a similar situation in Persona 4.

It won't skip you ahead.

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

Whenever the game says "You have X days remaining until the deadline" you will always have all those days for social links even if you finish it early. Theres no forced loss of days as a result of taking the treasure early and this is true for every single Palace.

Goodguy3
Aug 11, 2016

"What?! I'm not tangled up like this for fun, you know!"
Awesome. Thanks, guys. Like I said, that blindsided me in P4, so I wanted to be certain this time.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

https://twitter.com/MOOMANiBE/status/860663337545158661

TaurusOxford
Feb 10, 2009

Dad of the Year 2021
I can barely understand the lyrics despite them being English...

spit on my clit
Jul 19, 2015

by Cyrano4747
i cant wait for Persona Q 2 so we can get P3 music mixed with P5 music

No Mods No Masters
Oct 3, 2004

It seems like a waste to make another Persona Q right now when the next etrian game ought to be Untold 3, which would be rad as hell

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



TaurusOxford posted:

I can barely understand the lyrics despite them being English...

"Just a picosecond ago, clear blue skies" is a great line

RazzleDazzleHour
Mar 31, 2016

Tell me which costume/music pack to buy because I am incapable of making decisions on my own. I'm going to wait until the postgame to buy any of the new Personas since I'm not carrying anything over into my NG+ Mericless run for maximum suffering but a there's a couple real cool looking ones that I might get just for aesthetics

Delsaber
Oct 1, 2013

This may or may not be correct.

TaurusOxford posted:

I can barely understand the lyrics despite them being English...

You've never burned your dread before?

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



RazzleDazzleHour posted:

Tell me which costume/music pack to buy because I am incapable of making decisions on my own. I'm going to wait until the postgame to buy any of the new Personas since I'm not carrying anything over into my NG+ Mericless run for maximum suffering but a there's a couple real cool looking ones that I might get just for aesthetics

Dancing All Night

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

RazzleDazzleHour posted:

Tell me which costume/music pack to buy because I am incapable of making decisions on my own. I'm going to wait until the postgame to buy any of the new Personas since I'm not carrying anything over into my NG+ Mericless run for maximum suffering but a there's a couple real cool looking ones that I might get just for aesthetics
The Dancing All Night one is the best because everyone's costumes loving rule

Only problem is you have to hear Reach Out To The Truth instead of Last Surprise

TheLoser
Apr 1, 2011

You make my korokoro go dokidoki.
Some days, you just find yourself feeding on a tree frog :shrug:

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Thirding the Dancing All Night costume set, it's fantastic.

I wish they didn't always change the combat music, though, because Last Surprise is my favorite one

TheLoser posted:

Some days, you just find yourself feeding on a tree frog :shrug:

This ordeal, this trial to sur-viiiiiive

Alacron
Feb 15, 2007

-->Have tearful reunion with your son
-->Eh
Fun Shoe

Harrow posted:

Thirding the Dancing All Night costume set, it's fantastic.

I wish they didn't always change the combat music, though, because Last Surprise is my favorite one

A randomizer for battle music would be pretty rad, have to say.

RazzleDazzleHour
Mar 31, 2016

Each Persona game has real standouts in the soundtrack listing, and this game's are definitely Last Surprise and Beneath the Mask. The Casino track is awesome, but I feel a lot of the dungeon themes are forgettable and the first Palace's track I actively dislike. Persona 4 had my least favorite collection of tracks in the series as a whole, but Who's There is one of the best "something fuckey's up" tracks around. Persona 3's soundtrack really stole the show of the entire game though, every single track added something to the game's atmosphere, which P3 did an amazing job with. As much as I like P5's music, there's still something about the Dorms theme in P3 that keeps me interested just by nature of how off-kilter it is, sort of like the night theme in XenobladeX. That's not even accounting for all the great bulding progression of Burn My Dread that the game does, or the tracks that just stand out by nature of being great songs like Changing Seasons or When The Moon's Reaching Stars. I partially want one of the DLC packs for the battle theme just because I'm ready for something new after 80 hours of gameplay, but at the same time, I've played through P3 four times and I always listen to the in-game music while playing because it feels like an essential part of the experience.

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Supremezero
Apr 28, 2013

hay gurl

Delsaber posted:

You've never burned your dread before?

Excuse me, it's "Burn Madrid"

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