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Vengarr posted:French about to prove they're just as dumb as we are. Too bad we have a massive pissbaby at the helm of our computer arsenal.
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Capn Beeb posted:Opiates are a pretty serious problem. How many days ago did he talk about fighting the opioid epidemic? Not even the beginning of this week I think it was. gently caress me sideways his supporters are just amazing at being delusional. There's got to be some kind of scientific value in studying people that can ignore reality THAT HARD.
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May 6, 2017 03:35
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By fighting he meant addicts get extremely long sentences in for-profit prisons . Hth.
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May 6, 2017 03:45
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He's been trying to meet with Duterte. I think that says enough.
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bird food bathtub posted:How many days ago did he talk about fighting the opioid epidemic? Not even the beginning of this week I think it was. gently caress me sideways his supporters are just amazing at being delusional. There's got to be some kind of scientific value in studying people that can ignore reality THAT HARD. The problem is that most of them live in a media bubble where they never hear about this kind of poo poo, or if they do it's presented in a hilariously slanted light. Right-wing radio and Fox News do horrific things to the brain.
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May 6, 2017 03:48
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We have a grant funded task force and that would dissolve it. lol but also yikes
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May 6, 2017 03:57
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Florida's competing horrible MMJ bills in the house and senate were completely irreconcilable so now its punted to the Florida department of health to pass regulations by July relating to MMJ.
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May 6, 2017 04:17
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Acebuckeye13 posted:The problem is that most of them live in a media bubble where they never hear about this kind of poo poo, or if they do it's presented in a hilariously slanted light. Right-wing radio and Fox News do horrific things to the brain.
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May 6, 2017 04:20
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Capn Beeb posted:Opiates are a pretty serious problem. As someone in the addiction treatment I dusty I'm excited by this news. $$$$. However I am dismayed at gutting of Obamacare despite the fact mental health is governed by a different piece of legislation so... I'm conflicted? Professionaly.... Personally I'm disgusted
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For what it's worth, it's likely to redirect the money to Chris Christie's new opioid task force. Which I don't think should make you feel any better  Edit: In an uh-oh for Fox News, apparently federal investigators want to give the former Chief Financial Officer an immunity deal. https://twitter.com/PostRoz/status/860697429644935168 You can never go wrong when you follow the money. facialimpediment fucked around with this message at 04:58 on May 6, 2017 |
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May 6, 2017 04:30
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Some Penn State frat killed a pledge be delaying treatment for multiple head injuries. This happened despite having security cameras capture the entire event and these stains searching Google.for poo poo like "hazing deaths"
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Kawasaki Nun posted:Some Penn State frat killed a pledge be delaying treatment for multiple head injuries. This happened despite having security cameras capture the entire event and these stains searching Google.for poo poo like "hazing deaths" Fine tradition of U Penn sweepings abuse of kids under the rug even with overwhelming evidence. They'll be fine for at least another 20 years.
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May 6, 2017 05:44
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"hey Joe Where are you going with that evidence of child abuse in your hands Oh nowhere Oh. Okay then"
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May 6, 2017 06:14
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Wasabi the J posted:I'm ready for open war on the loving ruskies.
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May 6, 2017 06:20
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Any hacking of the Russians should probably go looking specifically for instances of corruption that undeniably hurt specific regular people and build up some narratives along those lines tying it back to the Kremlin. It's all well and good to point out how corrupt Putin and friends are as a whole, it used to be good enough for most Americans until Trump told them how great his new friend was between thrusts of Vlad's dick. Russians are way beyond stupid when it comes to tribalist stuff. The only thing that might stir up a significant number of them is seeing how this stuff hurt someone who looks very much like them.
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Casimir Radon posted:The only thing that might stir up a significant number of them is seeing how this stuff hurt someone who looks very much like them. Nah they were willing to buy the poo poo he sold them about the apartment bombing, they can't give a gently caress anymore.
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May 6, 2017 06:54
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Instead of hacking or open war what the west shoud've done right after Georgia is sanction them until life for the average russian starts to resemble life in best korea. First you hit Putin and his buddies in the only place they feel which is their wallet, and once the bread lines close opposition will finish them off.
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May 6, 2017 06:58
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666 posted:Instead of hacking or open war what the west shoud've done right after Georgia is sanction them until life for the average russian starts to resemble life in best korea. First you hit Putin and his buddies in the only place they feel which is their wallet, and once the bread lines close opposition will finish them off. That's an easy position to take if you're an American. And wouldnt have much of an effect if its an USA embargo alone, since the trade ties are so small. But the Russians do about 50% of their trade with us in Europe. Which, given the size of their economy, cuts both ways. Even though it would hurt Russia much more than us if we stopped trading with them, it would still be pretty painful for us as well. Not to mention that we kind of need Rusdian gas to not run out of energy in the winter. Its mutually assured destruction. We cant get by without their energy exports, but they also cannot credibly threaten to stop supplying gas to us, since their economy would collapse without those export revenues. Additionally, I think sanctions have a rather bad track record. Did they work in Best Korea? Cuba? Even Iran only got rid of the sanctions targeting their nuclear weapons program. The US has sanctioned them for sponsoring terrorism for decades without creating any change in policy. Because those governments can often blame the evil outsiders for the resulting economic problems. Not to mention how patriotism interacts with the issue. Hypothetically, if the rest of the world cut off trade to the US until the 2nd Amendment is repealed, do you think that would work? Or do you think even liberal gun control enthusiasts would reject this foreign meddling in their affairs?
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Torrannor posted:Not to mention how patriotism interacts with the issue. Hypothetically, if the rest of the world cut off trade to the US until the 2nd Amendment is repealed, do you think that would work? Or do you think even liberal gun control enthusiasts would reject this foreign meddling in their affairs? With only four ships commodore Perry opened Japan to trade. Imagine if he had carrier battle groups. Also I'm sure Saudi Arabia would be happy to sell Eastern Europe energy instead of Russia. In some ways they already are.
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May 6, 2017 07:28
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M_Gargantua posted:With only four ships commodore Perry opened Japan to trade. Imagine if he had carrier battle groups. Just assume that evil/benevolent aliens are enforcing global peace. What's your answer now? Regarding Saudi Arabia, the infrastructure simply isn't there right now to replace Russia.
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May 6, 2017 07:33
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Sanctions are proven failures at generating internal change, but they work great at keeping countries too poor to invade anyone. Given the entirety of Russian history, betting on democratic reformers ever getting the upper hand under any possible circumstances seems optimistic.
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May 6, 2017 07:35
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At this point, the West should just go nuclear and cut Russia from SWIFT. gently caress Russia, it's a garbage country governed by garbage people.
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Casimir Radon posted:Any hacking of the Russians should probably go looking specifically for instances of corruption that undeniably hurt specific regular people and build up some narratives along those lines tying it back to the Kremlin. It's all well and good to point out how corrupt Putin and friends are as a whole, it used to be good enough for most Americans until Trump told them how great his new friend was between thrusts of Vlad's dick. Russians are way beyond stupid when it comes to tribalist stuff. The only thing that might stir up a significant number of them is seeing how this stuff hurt someone who looks very much like them. Russians aren't exactly blind about the existence of government corruption and the issues it causes, but a large portion of the populace lived through a period where the economy wasn't much controlled or directed by the government, and it went rather poorly for the bulk of that large populace portion. Putin may be corrupt, but he still rescued the economy in the eyes of many. To the extent that this may have been dumb luck that fossil fuel prices were on the rise while he was is debatable, but ultimately he did preside over a period of growth and recovery, and people remember that. There isn't much of a better time to remember--the Yeltsin era was as or more corrupt, even if the powerful and corrupt were more in business than in government, and the Soviet Union was just a different sort of government corrruption. None of this is likely to magically change overnight if the current government is tossed out (hell, Ukraine tried that twice, and hasn't really succeeded), and building a strong, functioning civil society is going to be a long, hard slog. https://globalvoices.org/2017/03/21/this-is-how-a-russian-school-principal-talked-to-her-students-about-patriotism/ exhibits the current generational divide well, although it's probably hard to synch up the audio and English translation in your head if you don't speak any Russian. The younger generation (or at least the politically motivated segment of it posting poo poo to the internet) isn't deaf dumb and blind to the issues of the Putin government, and their presence at recent protests does indicate that there's something more than just idle youth discontent with the status quo. That doesn't erase the existence of the rest of the populace, and that segment isn't going to be swayed by some leaked documents because they still largely follow traditional media sources, which remain either effectively or completely under state control. The older generation also doesn't particularly care whether the existing Russian opposition has valid points or not, since they view it as a destabilizing force and have already had their fill of instability.
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So you want to get an American VISA, Mr. Chinese Investor? Give me $500,000 and I'll make it happen. https://twitter.com/TomLasseter/status/860836677392121857 https://twitter.com/emilyrauhala/status/860755144891187200 By the way, I'm Jared Kushner's sister, you may have heard of Jared, he's good friends with our President, so you know I can make this happen! And I'm not sure if this has been posted, but during the transition, Donnie's people were copying and removing documents from the SCIF, back when Flynn was their point person for a lot of this poo poo, including contingency plans. Great! https://twitter.com/justinjm1/status/860637529325883394
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facialimpediment posted:So you want to get an American VISA, Mr. Chinese Investor? Give me $500,000 and I'll make it happen. The Trump family has really doubled down on the overt influence peddling and corruption, clearly just trying to saturate the press with such blatant examples that the public becomes normalized to it. I don't know if this is an indictment of the country for not giving a poo poo, a commendation for the Trumps and their brazenness, or both. Also, she's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack: quote:The former secretary of state is building a new political group to fund organizations working on the resistance to President Donald Trump’s agenda, spending recent weeks in Washington, New York City, and Chappaqua, N.Y., meeting with donors and potential groups to invest in, and recruiting individuals for the group’s board of directors, multiple people close to the two-time White House hopeful and people familiar with the group’s planning told POLITICO.
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May 6, 2017 14:54
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shame on an IGA posted:W had stupid policies, but at least he knew what they were. https://youtu.be/Z12lrlNsjgQ No I don't believe this, but its always fun to link to.
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Yeah!!!! Lock her up!! Lock her up! Lock her up!
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Richard Bong posted:Ugh Cool misogyny. Berny would have won amirght?
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Poppyseed Poundcake posted:Cool misogyny. Berny would have won amirght? Biden and only Biden would have won. The Jewish Socialist was not going to win. But at you wanting that political cancer.
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Poppyseed Poundcake posted:Cool misogyny. Berny would have won amirght? Edit: Removed. Here's a picture of a nice bear instead. 
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That is a really cute bear.
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suboptimal posted:Edit: Removed. Here's a picture of a nice bear instead. Why stop at one bear, when you can have BEAR FORCE ONE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSUW-Z_Cnc0
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I'm sure you've seen about Macron's hacked email and the multitude of obvious fake poo poo that's in there. It's been confirmed, at least in my eyes, that it was russian doing again. https://twitter.com/henkvaness/stat...genumber%3D6459
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Mr. Nice! posted:I'm sure you've seen about Macron's hacked email and the multitude of obvious fake poo poo that's in there. It's been confirmed, at least in my eyes, that it was russian doing again. The logical twisting in that reply chain is really good
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Everyone knowing that it was Russia is 100% part of the plan. It brings the entire focus of the issue's response on "what are we gonna do about it" instead of "oh gosh we better figure out who did this" [wait three months and the news cycle has moved on]. Russia's troll game is top-tier and we loving suck at combatting it.
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I suggest interfering with their election by the assassination of Putin by men in rascals, with cowboy hats and six shooters. Then insisting they're not Americans just pro American separatists.
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