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Roger_Mudd posted:Punitives are going to the jury ladies and gents. I hope you get filthy rich
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Trip Report: Deus Ex Machina, or "I thought you'd be dead." This will not be as detailed as I hoped, because there was a continuance, which is a great thing for me, but not great for giving you guys the juicy stuff. So roughly two minutes before the hearing, a third party approaches me with documents from the 1920's showing her family has a claim to some of the land at issue. With her are two old people. One of them is someone I was 99% sure was dead, and I had intended to grill the guy I'm going after on that point, because his m.o. was taking title from dead people and forging deeds to himself. So dodged a bullet there. But we then have a 90 minute argument in front of the judge on getting a continuance, because the potential crooks know that more time = more chance that we find out about their scheme. Luckily, the judge was friends with the third party that showed up and got all teary eyed requesting time to press her claim, so booyah. Will fill in more later if/when the prosecution commences.
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May 5, 2017 02:41
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I worked in a Notorious BIG line into my closing address today. Shockingly it didn't make it into the paper. Snobs.
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May 5, 2017 02:57
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:Toona! You're a rising 3L. How's it going? I'm solidly set up to be a degenerate alcoholic public defender after law school, so pretty good I'd say.
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May 5, 2017 03:37
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CmdrSmirnoff posted:I worked in a Notorious BIG line into my closing address today. Shockingly it didn't make it into the paper. Snobs. Was there also a bow tie reference?
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May 5, 2017 03:39
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Roger_Mudd posted:Punitives are going to the jury ladies and gents. Pay off my loans and I'll come open your eminent domain practice group.
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May 5, 2017 03:42
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Lote posted:Was there also a bow tie reference? No but there will always be more trials.
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May 5, 2017 03:46
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Speaking of punitive damages, here in Iowa the legislature just passed "tort reform" of med mal cases. Except in very specific circumstances (basically negligence one step removed from battery) the damages are statute limited at $250k. Hilariously, no one is quite sure what that means for jury instructions, or whether juries should even be told there's a ceiling. Making it even better, both plaintiff and defense firms are unhappy. Plaintiffs are unhappy because it will clearly lower payouts. But defense attorneys are unhappy because they think that juries will treat it as the floor for damages, and default to $250k, even when it isn't called for. Basically the only group this dumbass statute helped are companies that insure doctors. Oh also, they passed a law that says you must be allowed to carry a gun into state buildings, INCLUDING COURTHOUSES. From what I hear there are a number of judges who are going to make sure no guns come in, in accordance with a separate statute giving judges control over administration of their buildings. So look for that fun case in a couple years.
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May 5, 2017 04:22
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Mr. Nice! posted:Are they declaring a mistrial as a result? What's the outcome? I think there's also a bar complaint, maybe? One of my public defender acquaintances likes to tell the story of how he won a Batson challenge and got a bar complaint filed against a prosecutor on her first trial ever.
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May 5, 2017 04:26
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Mr. Nice! posted:Are they declaring a mistrial as a result? What's the outcome? If anyone is interested. http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article148511089.html#wgt=trending My dad appears in federal court a lot and apparently likes this judge quite a bit. The defendant's attorneys are not exactly babies either, the two guys have 5 digit bar numbers (we're in the 300,000s now) which means they've been at it for at least 40 years.
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May 5, 2017 04:48
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nm posted:If anyone is interested. That's loving awesome and glad they got called out publicly.
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May 5, 2017 05:17
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nm posted:If anyone is interested. Dang, I wish my local news could cover anything in that kind of detail. I honestly think they're not capable of writing anything that isn't a fluff piece.
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May 5, 2017 07:11
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Pook Good Mook posted:
P Barnes better watch the gently caress out!
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May 5, 2017 07:35
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CaptainScraps posted:I hope you get filthy rich Notice of appearance just filed by defendant's appellate attorney. Things are looking good.
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May 5, 2017 14:52
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Roger_Mudd posted:Notice of appearance just filed by defendant's appellate attorney. Things are looking good. I mean the thing is once you hit a big case you realize you have to keep working even though an exorbitant amount of money is going towards taxes this year and you realize you're working this year to keep money flowing for the years to come. So have fun with that motivation.
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May 5, 2017 15:42
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CaptainScraps posted:I mean the thing is once you hit a big case you realize you have to keep working even though an exorbitant amount of money is going towards taxes this year and you realize you're working this year to keep money flowing for the years to come. We just need the verdict to set the settlement amounts on the other cases. Even if we hit it big, tort reform will gut what ever they give us.
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May 5, 2017 18:35
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Defense verdict. On to the next one.
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May 5, 2017 19:16
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gently caress. Sorry man.
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May 5, 2017 19:17
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Roger_Mudd posted:Defense verdict. On to the next one. hey at least it's a Friday right? I'm real pissy about some job interview stuff but I'm gonna distract myself with trying to figure out how and if I'm supposed to dethatch my lawn. I recommend the same for you
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May 5, 2017 19:20
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mastershakeman posted:hey at least it's a Friday right? I'm on day 4 of being bedridden after b surgery. Im finally conscious enough to start watching tv again. I've yet to check my work email that whole time.
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May 5, 2017 20:01
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:I'm on day 4 of being bedridden after b surgery. Im finally conscious enough to start watching tv again. Man your doctor must have given way better painkillers than I ever got
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May 5, 2017 20:58
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EwokEntourage posted:Man your doctor must have given way better painkillers than I ever got Ligament replacement, micro fracture treatment, 8 hours a day strapped to a continuous passive motion machine. And they hosed up my Achilles during surgery. Pain has sometimes reached like 9/10. Plus I'm a wealthy American attorney so they don't care what I get. And I haven't taken any opiates in ten years and don't drink so I have no tolerance.
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May 5, 2017 21:11
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Got an email threatening sanctions against us at 6:00 today. Great way to start the weekend!
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May 5, 2017 23:59
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Roger_Mudd posted:Defense verdict. On to the next one. Sorry, man.
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May 6, 2017 08:51
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Lotta advice here for the summer associates. It's all dumb - they will give you an offer if you do these two things: 1) Do your work on time (meet internal deadlines) and try a little bit. 2) Don't get wasted at summer events Done - you have a job.
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May 6, 2017 14:01
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Sab0921 posted:Lotta advice here for the summer associates. It's all dumb - they will give you an offer if you do these two things: You posted this from work didn't you
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May 6, 2017 14:09
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Sab0921 posted:Lotta advice here for the summer associates. It's all dumb - they will give you an offer if you do these two things: Except we have non-offered numerous summer associates who did those two things, but were otherwise annoying. Like we literally non-offered the one I spoke about earlier who was constantly babbling about how she was experienced at life and knew things they younger people couldn't because of her age. Because she was a condescending know-it-all, and no one wanted to work with her. So if "try a little bit" means, "Don't be a condescending dolt," then yes, I guess we have the same advice. But there are a lot of things you can do to irritate people. Some of which, at the right firms, will result in a non-offer.
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May 6, 2017 15:01
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Phil Moscowitz posted:You posted this from work didn't you  The correct answer is big law is stupid and summer associates should do other, cooler poo poo.
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May 6, 2017 15:48
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SlyFrog posted:Except we have non-offered numerous summer associates who did those two things, but were otherwise annoying. We have only non-offered in my brief time for those two things. But, I'm a third year and new to this, so YMMV. However, I have a distinct preference for older summer associates (likely not the ones you describe though). You have to train "K through JDs" how to be a lawyer and also how to have a job. It's very annoying.
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May 6, 2017 15:48
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stairs in abugadu's house confirmed.
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The concept of K through JD really bothers me, even though that's almost what I did.
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:The concept of K through JD really bothers me, even though that's almost what I did. I'm convinced that people don't actually grow up until they're working a full time job (or jobs) with no hope of doing something else, no end in sight, and no ability to call in sick constantly without consequences. so you can be a grown up at 16 after dropping out, or not be one at 35 like my sister
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May 6, 2017 16:22
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:The concept of K through JD really bothers me, even though that's almost what I did. One of our K through JDs bought a $100k+ sports car. When the revolution comes, he will be guillotined.
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May 6, 2017 16:40
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mastershakeman posted:I'm convinced that people don't actually grow up until they're working a full time job (or jobs) with no hope of doing something else, no end in sight, and no ability to call in sick constantly without consequences. I never grew up, so I got a gubberment job. Also, you while I did K-JD, I had actual jobs (rather than interships) from 16 to 1L year every summer but one and often during the school year.
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May 6, 2017 17:14
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Some people (brace yourselves) work full time jobs and go to school at the same time.
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May 6, 2017 17:43
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From the age of 15, the only times I didn't have a job were during 5 semesters of law school, and for the floundering months thereafter before I started practicing.
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May 6, 2017 18:44
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I worked as a pharmacy technician from 17 until I graduated from law school at 27. Full time or as close as I could manage.
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May 6, 2017 21:21
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I was always broke as gently caress and worked 40+ hours all through high school/college, the idea of summer vacation was laughable: nobody is going to hire you if you want to take four months off, plan on being around. Also don't bring up the fact that all poor people did this regularly (or joined the military) and it was accepted to a millennial, they tend to freak the gently caress out about you triggering them because they really just need to focus on this one brutal socy class this semester.
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May 7, 2017 01:13
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I worked 50-60 hours while in law school. Practice meant I had more time off. 
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Sab0921 posted:Lotta advice here for the summer associates. It's all dumb - they will give you an offer if you do these two things: My friend was a SA at a major firm and her firm just decided at some point that they didn't need half of their summers, so she got cut with a good review.
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