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Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
Also there's no conspiracy against the Oilers. If there was a conspiracy against the Oilers Connor McDavid wouldn't be playing for them.

He's 20 years old. Even if the Oilers lose this series or whatever, it's not like the window has closed. They have a bunch of worldbeaters entering their prime in the upcoming years.

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a false
Mar 5, 2009

I DECIDE
WHO LIVES
AND WHO DIES
i'm bummed about that bad call because it gives the oilers a legitimate reason to claim that their choke is not the worst of the playoffs so far

Yaya
Nov 14, 2012

vancloober cablucks
Ryan Kesler is extremely good at cheating and I feel like there's not a referee in the NHL who would overturn that on-ice goal call, given that Kesler was technically pushed into the crease & the circumstances of it being a game-tying goal on home ice with 15 seconds left.

vainman
Nov 2, 2012

I find your lack of faith... disturbing
I'd like the oil to start the next game with the most illegal hit you can imagine on the ducks goalie but decorum prevents that I guess

vvv Hell yeah

vainman fucked around with this message at 08:57 on May 6, 2017

Neodoomium
Jun 20, 2001

You are now hearing this
noise in your head.



I think we should close down hockey until we figure out what's going on with these bad hombre refs

ImplicitAssembler
Jan 24, 2013

Kesler was pushed into the crease and was holding on to his stick. (which was in turn trapped by Nurse's stick). Good call.
Oh and gently caress the oilers. (and the ducks).

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

https://twitter.com/TSNRyanRishaug/status/859816689264861186

Well drat that was quick

mennoknight
Nov 24, 2003

I WILL JUST EAT ONE MORE SANDWICH
OH MY HEAD EXPLORDED I'M JAY FATSTER

Kilza posted:

gently caress this series. gently caress the refs. gently caress the NHL. gently caress Bettman. gently caress Corey Perry. gently caress the Anaheim Ducks.

The Oilers should have won this series 4-1. But instead, because Bettman loving hates the Oilers, it's now a 3-2 series for the Ducks that they don't deserve. They had 3 goals that shouldn't have happened in Game 4, and tonight the game tying goal should not have happened. There's no way this bullshit isn't rigged. Ducks get multiple obvious calls missed by the refs, they get goals allowed that shouldn't be allowed and now they're going to win the series on Sunday because the refs are in their pocket and giving them this series.

This series is over. Oilers aren't coming back. They can't beat the refs. They can't beat Bettman.

I hope the Ducks get swept by the Preds next round. Those fuckers and their fans don't deserve happiness.

:fork:

Lol

shyduck
Oct 3, 2003


Oilers lost once it became 3-1. Their faces had "here we go again" written all over it.

Jamwad Hilder
Apr 18, 2007

surfin usa
Seems like oilers fans are bad now except for Wayne

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy

Jamwad Hilder posted:

Seems like oilers fans are bad now except for Wayne

All fans are bad.

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


I can't believe they let that goal stand. Remember when this happened way back in the first round.

Abner Assington
Mar 13, 2005

For I am a sinner in the hands of an angry god. Bloody Mary, full of vodka, blessed are you among cocktails. Pray for me now, at the hour of my death, which I hope is soon.

Amen.
I went to bed and it was 3-0 Edmonton.

My fault, guys.

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer
The Nashville Predators are going to win the Stanley Cup.

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


The Washington Capitals are going to the offseason.

St. Dogbert
Mar 17, 2011
NHL refs are garbage, Edmonton is no good, and Kesler is a rat. All we need is for Burrows to bite someone and/or pull someone's hair this afternoon, and all will be right with the world again.

THE MACHO MAN
Nov 15, 2007

...Carey...

draw me like one of your French Canadian girls

Ginette Reno posted:

Whether he did or didn't I just don't think you're gonna get that call when you're pushing a player into your own goalie and I don't understand why dmen continuously think it's a good idea.

I agree with this, but I think the call should have been for the vet move of whoopsie dropped my stick, let me reach between your pads and lay on you

Aye Doc
Jul 19, 2007



glynnenstein posted:

I can't believe they let that goal stand. Remember when this happened way back in the first round.

what a bad selljob by backstrom. if he had the veteran know-how of a seasoned cheater and deceiver like ryan kesler, this goal would have stood

glynnenstein
Feb 18, 2014


Aye Doc posted:

what a bad selljob by backstrom. if he had the veteran know-how of a seasoned cheater and deceiver like ryan kesler, this goal would have stood

This is a true. Nicky is good-hearted and honest, and always trying to set a good example for the kids.

Pungry
Feb 26, 2011

JUST PICK ONE. ANY ONE.
As a neutral fan, I wholly approve of the rigging. I could not believe what I saw when I loaded up the highlights on DTMTS without knowing a thing about what happened. When the Oilers went up 3-0 and the video was only halfway over, I thought the editors made a mistake. What a loving game. I really hope someone out there did some extended highlights for it since that was incredible to watch.

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

Cheat

To

Win

Also there's no conspiracy to keep the Oilers from winning. Get real.

yellowcar fucked around with this message at 15:56 on May 6, 2017

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME
I like how people can't be pissed at their team getting jobbed by the refs without everyone else piling on them to tell them how wrong they are to be mad

JohnnyCanuck
May 28, 2004

Strong And/Or Free
There was some hosed up officiating Thursday night but I can't blame the refs for the Sens losing. It was clear that, that night, the Rangers were simply the better team.

Gio
Jun 20, 2005


Levitate posted:

I like how people can't be pissed at their team getting jobbed by the refs without everyone else piling on them to tell them how wrong they are to be mad

because its so loving played, even if the complaint is legit. it's the first complaint every homer fan makes when their team loses. bad officiating happens, sometimes during critical moments, sometimes more than once in a game. get over it.

Sharks Eat Bear
Dec 25, 2004

Levitate posted:

I like how people can't be pissed at their team getting jobbed by the refs without everyone else piling on them to tell them how wrong they are to be mad

Bad officiating =/= there is a league conspiracy against the team that's picked 1st a bakers dozen times in the past decade

corn on the cop
Oct 12, 2012

Break what must be broken, once for all, that's all, and take the suffering on oneself.

― Corey Dostoyevsky

Gio posted:

because its so loving played, even if the complaint is legit. it's the first complaint every homer fan makes when their team loses. bad officiating happens, sometimes during critical moments, sometimes more than once in a game. get over it.

im not going to tell you to not be mad at questionable officiating. ill tell you to please not embarrass yourself when you're emotional to avoid internet strangers dunking on your sads.

St. Dogbert
Mar 17, 2011

Levitate posted:

I like how people can't be pissed at their team getting jobbed by the refs without everyone else piling on them to tell them how wrong they are to be mad

They aren't wrong at all. I just don't like the Oilers, will cheer for them to lose, and don't particularly care how it happens.

St. Dogbert fucked around with this message at 16:21 on May 6, 2017

Soft Shell Crab
Apr 12, 2006

God drat Kesler what a hero.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008
Its just a matter of fact that the refs arent concerned with enforcing the rulebook but instead doling out punishment to those they think are unworthy of their beneficence. The refs were obviously going "lol really oilers wow you are so fuckin bad at this you had a 3 goal lead" and decided to punish the Oilers for their incompetence. Just like the Capitals the other day. Yeah they were making a push the other day but the refs nipped it in the bud. Why? Because you really think a team that's struggling so hard to get more than two past MAF and a Letang-less, Crosby-less Penguins really deserves a win? Hell no. Just put 'em out of their fuckin' misery Steve.

i am the bird
Mar 2, 2005

I SUPPORT ALL THE PREDATORS
Nashville beats Pittsburgh in Game 7. Subban and Kessel meet in the postgame lineup. They exchange glowing smiles and knowing nods. They shake hands. Canada weeps. Don Cherry's heart explodes.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

I think we can all agree that the challenge is stupid and has led to far more idiotic "the refs are out to get us this look at this 1/60 of a second freeze frame that vaguely shows that maybe they got it wrong" than normal and we can all do without that. It was a nice idea that has led fans to expect far more from refs than can reasonably be expected from human beings.

At this point I'm yearning wistfully for the days of "that hit was legal/no it deserves a police investigation" arguments because I don't know how many more onside/offside interference/not interference circular arguments I have the stomach for.

Benson Cunningham
Dec 9, 2006

Chief of J.U.N.K.E.R. H.Q.

ThinkTank posted:

I think we can all agree that the challenge is stupid and has led to far more idiotic "the refs are out to get us this look at this 1/60 of a second freeze frame that vaguely shows that maybe they got it wrong" than normal and we can all do without that. It was a nice idea that has led fans to expect far more from refs than can reasonably be expected from human beings.

At this point I'm yearning wistfully for the days of "that hit was legal/no it deserves a police investigation" arguments because I don't know how many more onside/offside interference/not interference circular arguments I have the stomach for.

The challenge isn't stupid. It has lead to far more correct calls than not having the challenge would.

What's stupid is when offsides that had no impact on the play which resulted in a goal is the reason for it being over turned. The challenge should be modified, not removed.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Slo-mo and more cameras have ruined the game. :colbert:

Just play the game and embrace that refs are human and fuckups are the way of the world because the alternative is even more cameras and sensors and games decided by something that happened in 1/100 of a second.

kalensc
Sep 10, 2003

Only Trust Your Respirator, kupo!
Art/Quote by: Rubby

i am the bird posted:

Nashville beats Pittsburgh in Game 7. Subban and Kessel meet in the postgame lineup. They exchange glowing smiles and knowing nods. They shake hands. Canada weeps. Don Cherry's heart explodes.

:hfive:

As does Therrien, Simmons, and a bunch of other rubes.

Fart Amplifier
Apr 12, 2003

When you check attacking players into your goalie you risk goals being scored. You are basically causing goaltender interference and hoping the ref agrees with you.

I'd have called it back but I can see how someone might not. Kesler was holding his stick which one can argue was tied up enough that he couldn't get his hand and glove around the pad in a chaotic scramble. He was probably moving the pad on purpose, but this would be a judgement call, and they may have decided it was inconclusive so that the call on the ice would stand.

The fact that they ruled it a goal so quickly over review suggests that they probably didn't even see the hand pad fuckery though, which is frustrating. If you go to video review you should be thorough.

Chad Sexington
May 26, 2005

I think he made a beautiful post and did a great job and he is good.
The playoffs are all about who cheats best. The Ducks are a veteran team and are showing the Oil a thing or two about veteran presence.

That Kesler replay is pretty funny though set against the Backstrom "interference."

Sharks Eat Bear
Dec 25, 2004

ThinkTank posted:

I think we can all agree that the challenge is stupid and has led to far more idiotic "the refs are out to get us this look at this 1/60 of a second freeze frame that vaguely shows that maybe they got it wrong" than normal and we can all do without that. It was a nice idea that has led fans to expect far more from refs than can reasonably be expected from human beings.

At this point I'm yearning wistfully for the days of "that hit was legal/no it deserves a police investigation" arguments because I don't know how many more onside/offside interference/not interference circular arguments I have the stomach for.

I don't think it's inherently stupid, but its current implementation is extremely bad. Just the idea of the same refs who made the call then being responsible for deciding whether to admit they were wrong by using a lovely rear end iPad on the ice is so laughably idiotic. Seems like if they're going to review plays, just have some dude in Toronto or wherever in a room full of big HD screens showing all the different camera angles make a call. Would be faster and better.

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

*gives Oilers 34 straight #1 overall picks*

Kilza posted:

Bettman loving hates the Oilers,

ElwoodCuse
Jan 11, 2004

we're puttin' the band back together

Benson Cunningham posted:

What's stupid is when offsides that had no impact on the play which resulted in a goal is the reason for it being over turned. The challenge should be modified, not removed.

This isn't stupid. There's no exception in the NHL offside rule for "oh but if it didn't affect the play..."

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Benson Cunningham
Dec 9, 2006

Chief of J.U.N.K.E.R. H.Q.

ElwoodCuse posted:

This isn't stupid. There's no exception in the NHL offside rule for "oh but if it didn't affect the play..."

It's dumb because play is allowed to continue, sometimes for minutes, when a team cannot be credited with a goal. That's the issue.

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