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chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



Omobono posted:

Me feel stupider from watching stupidest scribbles in little boxes under pretty pictures.

JFC Azura "let's earnestly help at Dachau it'll give us a chance to take down Hitler" THAT's what you're saying.
Are we sure Corrin and Azura are not actually siblings? Because they feel equally stupid. Goddamn inbred dragon royals.

They're not siblings.

But yes, I assume there's a lot of common branches in their family tree.

Like I said, Robin is a multi-millenium eugenics project that would make Ankh Morpork's Dragon King of Arms start drooling.

Corrin is one of the embarrassing side effects of that kind of project someone puts in a sack and drowns in the river.

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inthesto
May 12, 2010

Pro is an amazing name!
We might be responsible for the death of Scarlet, but we also got Charlotte out of it, so it's a pretty good trade.

PlasticAutomaton
Nov 12, 2016

Artoria Pendonut


Corrin at least has the excuse of being extremely sheltered and growing up in one fortress for most of her life.

gently caress Azura. She is the biggest offender in all three routes on "making things worse by not telling anyone important poo poo." and the mysterious invader land idiot ball is the worst part of this game. Actually, I'm pretty sure the worst Azura moment in the entire game is next update.

PlasticAutomaton fucked around with this message at 12:51 on May 6, 2017

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

chiasaur11 posted:

They're not siblings.

But yes, I assume there's a lot of common branches in their family tree.

Like I said, Robin is a multi-millenium eugenics project that would make Ankh Morpork's Dragon King of Arms start drooling.

Corrin is one of the embarrassing side effects of that kind of project someone puts in a sack and drowns in the river.

That and a combination of pretty much ever terrible fanfiction protagonist ideas, none of which were properly developed.

PlasticAutomaton posted:

Corrin at least has the excuse of being extremely sheltered and growing up in one fortress for most of her life.

gently caress Azura. She is the biggest offender in all three routes on "making things worse by not telling anyone important poo poo." and the mysterious invader land idiot ball is the worst part of this game. Actually, I'm pretty sure the worst Azura moment in the entire game is next update.

Azura seems to have some idea how things function, unlike Corrin who seems to have been dropped on his/her head as a child, but gets everyone constantly kissing up to them.

Honestly, either one getting called out on their screw-ups and getting some development might help salvage them somewhat.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!


There's a familiar face to see you.



When I heard that you'd gone missing, I couldn't think about anything else! I'm been tracking you down ever since, through the astral whosits!
It wasn't easy, but I made it here and I want to fight!



So Felicia joined up as Jakob did in Birthright. My current Jakob is actually equal or better than Felicia in every way, but then he's out of the party so that's a moot point. I still have that Flame Shuriken lying around and Tomebreaker is always good.




Can't have Fire Emblem without a boat mission



This is one of the weirder titles in context.



I like soldiers that survive my murder attempts. Right, my daughter?

Thank you, King Garon.
To think you fell into the depths of the Bottomless Canyon... It must have been quite the ordeal. I am pleased to see you alive and well.
Heh heh, welcome back, Sir Gunter.
...



Soon Nohr and Hoshido will be engaged in an all-out war. Our army will set up base here in Cyrkensia and immediately send troops to Hoshido. If we catch them by surprise, we may be able to secure a win early on.

Can you actually station troops in a neutral Kingdom and launch an attack from there? Then again, not a single thing is shown about the place so screw it.

Corrine, I'm putting you in charge of the Hoshidan infiltration.
...As you wish, Father.
Hmm...good girl. Go by sea rather than taking the overland route. The Hoshidans will expect us to go by land and may be waiting to ambush. We shall outsmart them at every turn. In the meantime, I will return to Castle Krakenburg.



You want to share some of that magic technology that lets you do that? Might help.

Iago, Hans, you two will come with me.
Certainly, my king.
Understood, King Garon.
...
I have high hopes for you, my child.
I shall do my best to bring back good news, Father.
Before you depart, Lady Corrine, I must ask...



Hm?
Was I not clear? Then I shall repeat myself. I saw you follow Lady Azura into the night. Very suspicious, if you ask me.
I shudder to even suggest it, but in times like these.. You weren't meeting with Hoshidan spies by any chance, were you?

Corrine should pull an Ocelot and go "Maybe YOU'RE the spy!"

Nothing of the sort. She and I just went for a little stroll in the moonlight.
A stroll? You expect us to believe that?
I do, as it is the truth. I was rattled after the attack on Father in Nestra. Azura suggested we walk through the forest to calm my nerves. While we were gone, we ran into a strange group of soldiers.



Witness the first time Corrine is shown competence.

What?! Y-you did?
Corrine...
As sharp as you are, surely you noticed the new blood stains on my armor. There's your proof. I'm not sure who they were, but they threatened the royal family.

Wait a second, those invisible ghost things bleed?



After all, rebellions are like seeds. We must salt the earth before they can sprout.
...Have I acted out of line?
N-no, mimilady. You are a role model to us all...
Thank you, Iago. Let that be the last time I hear you question my loyalty. Father, if you'll please excuse me.
Go.

*Some time later*



Corrine... May I ask why you lied to Iago just then?

What...THIS WAS YOUR PLAN

Well, it wasn't a complete lie... They may have been monsters, but we DID vanquish strange soldiers that attacked us.
I merely left out the details of where the actual fight took place.
Ah, I see. So you said all that to gain King Garon's trust?
Precisely. If we want our plan to succeed, it's imperative that Father trusts us. Winning the war won't matter if we can't convince him to sit on the throne.

Azura, what the gently caress was your plan if this is new to you



Hearing you speak like him so casually... It was unsettling.
Oh wow, I must be a better actress than I thought.
Sorry, but until this war is over, you'll have to get used to seeing me like that. I'll have to grow comfortable with that disguise, at least in front of Father. No matter how hard it is... Or how it tortures me.
I suppose so...

...Remember when I said this plan is poorly thought out?

*The next day*



It is. Patience, Corrine.
Ah, that reminds me. Iago gave me some extra funds for our war chest. He said he hoped it would prove useful.
What?! He really gave us this much?
I was also surprised. I'm not sure what's gotten into him.



Money pinching Iago is a new thing

But we'll take what we can get, I suppose.
Too true. We should take this opportunity to stock up on supplies before we leave.
Excellent idea.
Hm? Corrine! Behind you!
Huh?!



No, not another port attack!



I'm forever destined to fight him no matter what?!



Your reflexes have vastly improved since last I surprise attacked you.
Xander!!

Oh wait no, he's just a prick



I heard the Rainbow Sage granted you new strength. Congratulations.

Yes...the Sage gave power...right....

Thanks, Xander! But sheesh, did you have to give me such a fright! We haven't seen each other in ages, yet the first thing you do is test my reflexes! I guess some people never change.
By the way, what brings you here?



The first thing I did after reporting back was come after you.
If you're to infiltrate Hoshido, I'm going with you. It's not negotiable.
Xander... Thank you! Having you on my side is like having a thousand extra soldiers.
That is kind of you to say, if not a bit of an exaggeration.

It took a little longer, but everyone is finally recruited for the most part.



MILORD! I missed you so much! I made sure to keep Lady Corrine safe even though she didn't let me kill things!
Well done, both of you. I am grateful for your efforts to protect my sister.
Wow... Praise from the great Lord Xander. It's a little embarrassing!
Heehee, I'm an expert at making baddies suffer, so it was a piece of cake!
Now that Xander has joined us, the whole family is finally together again.
That's a good point, Leo! It makes me so happy to be near all of my beloved siblings.



Y-yes, that's right. Sorry, I don't wish to intrude on your reunion...
Azura? Can it be...our kidnapped sister?

I don't think Xander ever talked to Azura on Birthright, did he?

You remember me?
Of course. Though not as much as I would have liked, we met a handful of times. I especially remember how horribly the other Nohrians treated you back then...
They did? But why?



When they married, many Nohrians were still distraught over my mother's death. Those who loved Queen Katerina were not happy about Queen Arete or her daughter. Camilla and I...and later Leo...were told not to associate with Azura because of this.



However, we always wished we could be close with her, as siblings should be.
I can't tell you how happy I am to have you here with us Azura.
Xander...
Thank you. Your words have touched me deeply. You are truly as kind as Corrine made you out to be.
This is wonderful. Now we can all be the big, happy family we were meant to be!



YEAH MURDER TIME! SIEG NOHR SIEG NOHR!

Elise, darling, we're not going to play. Make sure to behave yourself.
It's true. We should all mentally prepare ourselves for the battle looming ahead. Traipsing into enemy territory isn't going to be easy.
Worry not, Leo. No task is too great for the Nohrian royal siblings. Isn't that right, Corrine?
Right, We'll find a way to win this war together.
And I'll protect all of you... That's a promise.

*Time passes on the ship*



So far, so good.

Yes, things are going quite smoothly. I hope it stays this way...
Lord Xander! Lady Corrine! Pirates are aboard the ship. They're raiding our war chest!
What?! Where did they come from?
I'm sorry, milord, but they must have snuck aboard before we set sail.
That's not possible. Unless...those are no ordinary pirates.



Uh...yes, because stowadays apparently don't exist.

Corrine, follow me.
OK!




So this map is a semi-timed battle. You start with 10k gold and it ticks down 300 gold every turn. How much gold you get is how fast you go.



PSkill: Chivalry-When enemy’s HP is at maximum, damage +2 and damage received -2 during the battle

Siegfried-E rank, 11 might, 80 hit, 5 avoid, 1-2 range, Critical Evade +10; Defence +4 while in possession

What if Ragnell gave +4 defense. Being the complete opposite of Rajinto, it's still a good drat sword for someone as tanky as Xander. His speed is meh though, which means mages destroy him. He has an actual weakness unlike Ryoma.

Character stats: https://lpix.org/sslptest/index.php?id=147504

Bench 5 characters: http://www.strawpoll.me/12907670

Omobono
Feb 19, 2013

That's it! No more hiding in tomato crates! It's time to show that idiota Germany how a real nation fights!

For pasta~! CHARGE!

I won't lie, Corrine twisting all that bullshit about rebellion and throwing it back into Iago and murderdad's face was awesome. Too bad about the rest of the route.

Tendronai
May 7, 2008

My worst nightmare. It's a dream I have. I'm in a square cell, glass walls, just me and a little castle.

W.T. Fits posted:

... This is going to somehow get even stupider before it's over, isn't it.

There is always more, and it is always worse.

Geostomp
Oct 22, 2008

Unite: MASH!!
~They've got the bad guys on the run!~

Omobono posted:

I won't lie, Corrine twisting all that bullshit about rebellion and throwing it back into Iago and murderdad's face was awesome. Too bad about the rest of the route.

Corrin got exactly one scene of what they should have been doing the entire time in Conquest, agreed.

TheGreatEvilKing
Mar 28, 2016





Omobono posted:

I won't lie, Corrine twisting all that bullshit about rebellion and throwing it back into Iago and murderdad's face was awesome. Too bad about the rest of the route.

Seconded.

Really, though, the actual plan is still bullshit.

I would have seriously been ok playing Evil Corrine where she knows about all Garon's bullshit and is just waiting to betray him so she could have become Dark Lady, would have beat the hell out of what we actually got.

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
For anyone worried: Echoes's story is officially confirmed by Japanese players to be Not poo poo and is actually Quite Good.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012
34 people snuck on-board a ship and weren't spotted

i understand story/gameplay segregation so i'm not bothered by it per se but still, makes me laugh a little

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
I have to be ready at any moment to put on the helpless-lady act.

Araxxor
Oct 20, 2012

My disdain for you all knows no bounds.

Omobono posted:

I won't lie, Corrine twisting all that bullshit about rebellion and throwing it back into Iago and murderdad's face was awesome. Too bad about the rest of the route.

Yeah, shame more of the game couldn't have been like that. That was a pretty good moment.

LEGO Genetics
Oct 8, 2013

She growls as she storms the stadium
A villain mean and rough
And the cops all shake and quiver and quake
as she stabs them with her cuffs

quote:

Y-yes, that's right. Sorry, I don't wish to intrude on your reunion...
Azura? Can it be...our kidnapped sister?

I don't think Xander ever talked to Azura on Birthright, did he?

You remember me?
Of course. Though not as much as I would have liked, we met a handful of times. I especially remember how horribly the other Nohrians treated you back then...
They did? But why?



When they married, many Nohrians were still distraught over my mother's death. Those who loved Queen Katerina were not happy about Queen Arete or her daughter. Camilla and I...and later Leo...were told not to associate with Azura because of this.

I'm saving this part where Xander talks about the royal siblings weren't allowed to interact with Azura. I cannot say why yet, but anybody who pays attention to the support conversations will know.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Normally you'd say "My soul surges with power!" or "The blood...it rages!"

edit: Damnit, I'll fix the Leo/Niles tomorrow.

Tae fucked around with this message at 04:26 on May 7, 2017

TheGreatEvilKing
Mar 28, 2016





Both of those are Odin/Leo.

theshim
May 1, 2012

You think you can defeat ME, Ephraimcopter?!?

You couldn't even beat Assassincopter!!!

Tae posted:

Give me more like them! I haven't had a good adventure in ages! A hero needs more than fetch quests and escort missions.
Bad Odin! No breaking the fourth wall!

AradoBalanga
Jan 3, 2013

theshim posted:

Bad Odin! No breaking the fourth wall!
To be fair, if anyone from either Awakening or Fates was going to break the fourth wall, it'd be Owain hands down.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




AradoBalanga posted:

To be fair, if anyone from either Awakening or Fates was going to break the fourth wall, it'd be Owain hands down.

Anna

CptWedgie
Jul 19, 2015
Man, Beruka's getting pretty screwed over on the Speed front. I mean, she's almost as slow as a Knight! Voting to ditch her because she's turning out pretty badly, Gunter for flat-out sucking, Azura because she kind of got overexposed on Birthright, Keaton because I ran out of bad units to vote off, and someone else I can't recall off-hand; probably Odin, though. Anyway, a belated character review for Gunter, because I never got around to it in Birthright.

Gunter - Frankly, he sucks; he has the worst overall growths in the game bar none, and in the few stats where he isn't flat-out worst in category he's pretty close. I mean, when your Luck growth is only slightly better than ARTHUR, you've got a problem. Basically, the only reason he's even vaguely competitive is that the game gives him respectable bases in several stats... but the all-important Speed is NOT one of them, and worse: he has LITERALLY no innate growth for it (in fact, he is the ONLY unit in the game, possibly the entire SERIES, for which this is true). Literally his only use later on is to hide behind the Avatar to make them hit a bit better, and there're plenty of other units who can do that AND be viable units on their own on top of that.

Actually, on double-checking, Gunter at best TIES for worst in every growth, with exactly ONE exception: Luck (yes, Arthur's luck is, indeed, THAT bad; Reina's not much better on that front, though, so Gunter is only THIRD worst in that growth). Frankly, I think you'd do better deploying generics than this guy... which brings to mind a potential challenge run: Gunter only, no stat boosters (though to make it actually possible, einherjar versions of Gunter would have to be permissible).

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

generics dont have the base stats, weapon ranks, and classes gunter does. gunter is pretty good. at the very least he's useful on a couple maps out of the box and then you can ditch him.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

CptWedgie posted:

Man, Beruka's getting pretty screwed over on the Speed front. I mean, she's almost as slow as a Knight! Voting to ditch her because she's turning out pretty badly, Gunter for flat-out sucking, Azura because she kind of got overexposed on Birthright, Keaton because I ran out of bad units to vote off, and someone else I can't recall off-hand; probably Odin, though. Anyway, a belated character review for Gunter, because I never got around to it in Birthright.

Beruka doesn't have the speed, but she's almost as tanky as Benny.

Last Celebration
Mar 30, 2010

CptWedgie posted:

Man, Beruka's getting pretty screwed over on the Speed front. I mean, she's almost as slow as a Knight! Voting to ditch her because she's turning out pretty badly, Gunter for flat-out sucking, Azura because she kind of got overexposed on Birthright, Keaton because I ran out of bad units to vote off, and someone else I can't recall off-hand; probably Odin, though. Anyway, a belated character review for Gunter, because I never got around to it in Birthright.

Being as slow as a knight is actually okay when you have way more speed than Benny and defense on par with the other tanks though? Not sure how you can call that badly, but that's just me.

Stephen9001
Oct 28, 2013

Last Celebration posted:

Being as slow as a knight is actually okay when you have way more speed than Benny and defense on par with the other tanks though? Not sure how you can call that badly, but that's just me.

Some people are just allergic to slow units.

I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.

CptWedgie
Jul 19, 2015
Maybe it's just the Fire Emblem-based forum RP I'm playing in right now (on a different site). The players have a bad habit of min-maxing (I'm probably playing the most "balanced" character of us, in the form of a Wyvern Rider who can attack and tank a bit; one of the other players took "party tank" to ridiculous extremes by sacrificing literally all offense for maximum durability- for the record, he's spent most of the game thus far as our primary healer), and the GM is responding in kind, so I've gotten used to seeing particularly low Speed values as grounds to dismiss a unit as non-viable. Of course, there're other factors in that, as well; I generally prefer dodging to tanking in games (especially when things scale enough that enemies can always damage me no matter how high I get my defense; any game with a minimum damage value over 0 counts here), and I like doubling enemies (with the understandable implication that I HATE getting doubled). Point is, as I previously stated in my review of Gunter, I consider Speed to be possibly the most important stat of the lot.

TLDR: Stephen9001's got it about right; I am, as he put it, allergic to slow units.

Wallet Inspector
Jun 15, 2012

I agree that Speed is the most important stat (until you're able to double), but it's worth noting that Fates gives a shitton of ways to fix low stats. If you wanted to fix that Beruka's speed, you can pair her up with a C Support Master Ninja Kaze or B support Bow Knight Niles to have them give her +5 Speed. Then +2 from a Speed Tonic, +2 from the Speedwing from the last chapter, and a possible +1 from a meal, and that shameful 11 Spd becomes a respectable 21. A Berserker Arthur or Charlotte support gives +3 instead of +5, but can boost her Str by 6 at a B support instead if she's lacking in that (which Tae's is, nearly -2 average Str ouch). A promotion to Wyvern Lord gives her another 2 Speed if she needs the boost to double, though I'd say it's a level or two too early for that.

These boosts come at a cost (the Speedwing is a significant loss given how much other characters like Leo and Xander also love it) but if you like a character, or they offer something more exclusive like flight or movement, poor stats can be fixed (mostly, poor Benny is never doubling anything I suspect).

Gunter is cool, he's got the bases to be useful in combat for a few chapters (Chapter 17 is a good one for him), and gets access to cool support skills like Shelter and Rally Defense fast, but most importantly he's the best pairup for Corrin, who often ends up being the best lategame unit. He always ended up getting a deployment slot when I played Conquest.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Most people wouldn't consider nearly being executed to be a pleasant memory...

I'm not some silly kid you can bribe with pretty things.

RevolverDivider
Nov 12, 2016

Gunter is useful even just for his fantastic Personal skill making him a backpack for Corrin. Beruka is fantastic and you just have wrong opinions about what makes a unit good, especially with Speed as nerfed as it is in Fates compared to the previous games.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Voting will end soon. Anyone left, please don't vote for Gunter or Felicia because they're beyond dead

edit: Voting is over. Gunter, Felicia, Azura, and Keaton are out.

Leave me alone, old man! Go make your own tea!

Tae fucked around with this message at 19:24 on May 7, 2017

Space Bat
Apr 17, 2009

hold it now hold it now hold it right there
you wouldn't drop, couldn't drop diddy, you wouldn't dare

CptWedgie posted:

Maybe it's just the Fire Emblem-based forum RP I'm playing in right now (on a different site). The players have a bad habit of min-maxing (I'm probably playing the most "balanced" character of us, in the form of a Wyvern Rider who can attack and tank a bit; one of the other players took "party tank" to ridiculous extremes by sacrificing literally all offense for maximum durability- for the record, he's spent most of the game thus far as our primary healer), and the GM is responding in kind, so I've gotten used to seeing particularly low Speed values as grounds to dismiss a unit as non-viable. Of course, there're other factors in that, as well; I generally prefer dodging to tanking in games (especially when things scale enough that enemies can always damage me no matter how high I get my defense; any game with a minimum damage value over 0 counts here), and I like doubling enemies (with the understandable implication that I HATE getting doubled). Point is, as I previously stated in my review of Gunter, I consider Speed to be possibly the most important stat of the lot.

TLDR: Stephen9001's got it about right; I am, as he put it, allergic to slow units.

I'm curious now. What ruleset are you using?

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
I like the money challenge aspect of this all. I suppose the mysterious castle dimension is always ready to take our money.

...where does all of it go, anyhow?

Argent Cinereus
Feb 25, 2013

Glazius posted:

I like the money challenge aspect of this all. I suppose the mysterious castle dimension is always ready to take our money.

...where does all of it go, anyhow?

Extradimensional tax collectors?

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!


First thing to do is to promote Corrine to Nohr Noble. Now everyone except Elise is promoted, which is appropriate.



Corrine can now use Tomes, a thing she will never use because she has the Levin Sword. Also, she wears less armor now because...I dunno, Camilla?



Azura and Keaton are the notables out. I will never use a Dancer in Conquest again, will I



Somebody is clearly leading the charge. If we take down the leader, the rest will fall.
Agreed, but I can't figure out who it is. They're all acting in unison.
Then perhaps... Their leader is not among them.
Hm?



They are? Since when? I just played Birthright, where did you see that?

Their leader must be masquerading as a Nohrian soldier, giving orders on the sly.
That means we'll have to speak to each of our soldiers directly to smoke him out.
Let's move quickly. The longer this skirmish takes, the more we stand to lose.



So I already mentioned it, but 300 gold will be stolen each turn until you beat the boss. No, you don't get the gold back because...reasons.



Talking to all four green soldiers will reveal the boss, and he will always be the last one you talked to.



There's two Adventurers here that don't move and have status Staves. The top one has Freeze, the bottom one has Enfeeble. The Enfeeble is way worse because -4 stats is devasting to anyone that approaches the right side of the ship.



That's why the solution is to just have Xander laser beam into oblivion. You don't care that he's now stuck forever from the Freeze because nothing physical can touch him.



Corrine follows her big brother's act and takes the northeast side. With Selena's support, she's fast enough to double all the outlaws.



Here's the set-up to counterkilla bunch of enemies.

Leo with Odin's pair-up will take on the mages on the north. Effie with Peri support and Elise's PSkill will snipe out the archers on the southeast. Niles with Beruka's defensive boost and Camilla's PSkill will snipe that northwestern mage.



Niles still takes a lot of damage despite his high resistance. This job would normally fall to Jakob since he would have Tomebreaker at this point.



Leo spams the Tree button. Man, he's still taking damage despite his high resistance+Odin's RES boost. Mages do not gently caress around. You'd think I would stop facing Dark Mages on the Conquest route but nope.



A roll that jumps into a flip that ends with a rising uppercut slash? Man, and I thought Corrin as a Hoshido Noble was too much.



Effie's probably the most reliant on RNG with a worrisome hit rate.



Her defense is also not exactly spectacular for someone that will get doubled by everything. Keep in mind that one of the Outlaws did 5x2 damage AFTER Peri's defense boost and Elise's PSKill.



There's a reason why Xander is soloing the southeast. And that's because a ton of these mercs have special weapons like Armorslayer and Wyrmslayer, so Corrine and Effie can't really venture on their own.



Charlotte blasts a Fighter to death after Laslow assists with poison. Missing strength is a bit annoying considering it's 75%.



Beruka cleans up the other Fighter while Odin sets up a counterkill with full guard meter.



Selena chucks her sword at a Hero and picks up a free Heart Seal.

There's a countdown every end of turn on how much money you have remaining to gain.



No wonder she's always tired after each battle.



Effie eliminates the one Armorslayer merc to safely take on the rest of them.

Charlotte goes bananas on that poor Dark Mage.



You are like -3 in expected strength, Beruka. You are the opposite of getting stronger.



It's great how Odin and Leo work well together. Slinging spells at saps all day.



Your co-worker would disagree.



These Zerkers are really annoying in Conquest despite having no tricks besides being big HP and strong.

Also, did you just miss strength again?!



Peri's PSkill kicks in after her first kill, letting her double the other merc on the enemy's phase.



Effie gains a level off guarding Peri and...goddamnit, again?! Why is Selena the only one gaining strength?



Thank you, Peri



This is probably the hardest part of the map. All those mages and Sorcerer deal obscene amount of damage, and that Fighter pair-up has Seal Defense.



Odin hitting hard isn't the problem, it's getting doubled at this point. And his resistance isn't good enough to suddenly be a magic tank.



This Adventurer has a Shining Bow, but not any real threat since he doesn't move.



Niles tests out his new Shining Bow and gets a good kill off despite his paltry magic stat. Unfortunately it will stay paltry because Niles does not gain offensive stats.



Femme Fatale clean up with some swift kills. 27 damage off Nosferatu though, good god. That's what two resistance will get ya.



That +4 SPD off her PSkill is such a difference maker, because that makes her one of the very few characters on the team that has 20+ speed.



...The hell are these stats?



If you somehow missed the memo, KEEP HER AWAY FROM MAGIC



Wha—?! Why are you pulling on my cheeks? OW OW OW! Please stop! You'll bruise my gorgeous face! Did you think I was an enemy in disguise? Never! I'm a Nohrian through and through! Are we done here? I feel a little abused.



My god, this Sorcerer is kicking my rear end. They give you a Tomebreaker party member for a reason.



Um, do I have something in my teeth? I suppose I did eat not too long ago... Huh?! You need to inspect my face? Erm. OK. V-very well.
That was...strange. If you're finished, I shall return to my post!

The image of Beruka awkwardly patting a soldier's face is amusing.



DIE

Niles picks up a Master Seal from its corpse.



Am I wearing...a disguise? Not a chance! Test me all you want. My face and my Nohrian pride are both the real deal.
If you're satisfied, please allow me to return to the task at hand.



Huh? You wish to inspect my face? I'm sorry—I can't allow that. I'm not hiding anything, I just... Hey, stop that!
Unhand me, you fiends! I guess I have no choice...



The hell, Shura??

Wait...that's a Nohrian pirate! But he leads his men just like ninja... And how did a common pirate manage to sneak aboard? This doesn't add up.
I'll get to the bottom of this later. For now, all that matters is stopping him!

I think the bigger question is how 30 people took over your entire ship without your notice.



Shura is a very, very annoying enemy to deal with if you're not a ranged attacker. He starts out with the Mini-Bow AND he has Counter.



Say good-bye to your men, your war chest, and this ship!

No unique dialogue for this mission either. Weird.



Eh, let's whittle him down with Xander's support attack



Oh. Huh.

Tae fucked around with this message at 23:06 on May 7, 2017

theshim
May 1, 2012

You think you can defeat ME, Ephraimcopter?!?

You couldn't even beat Assassincopter!!!
It's remarkable how many things can be dealt with by applying Xander to the problem.

Not everything, because this is Conquest and he's not Ryoma, but an awful lot of things.

Therefore, I fully expect the thread to bench him immediately.

AradoBalanga
Jan 3, 2013

I've come to notice that whoever was in charge of combat animation choreography for Fates really likes three things: rolling, spinning, and crazy flips. And I love every minute of his/her work because it shows that effort was put into Fates' development, while helping both weapons and especially classes have their own unique touch.

Camel Pimp
May 17, 2008

This poster survived LPing Lunar: Dragon Song. Let's give her a hand.
Yeah, mages on Conquest can be pretty nasty, mainly on hard and above. Dread Fighter Kaze was one of my MVPs of my lunatic run.

AriadneThread
Feb 17, 2011

The Devil sounds like smoke and honey. We cannot move. It is too beautiful.


i finally caught up with this thread

i bought the game at release after enjoying awakening, but couldn't bring myself to care enough to even get past the halfway point, boy has this been a wild ride
i really like the mechanics (mostly, boosting supports still feels too tedious imo) but i'm just not the kind of person that ignore the terrible plot

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

Forget Xander, it's his HORSE that's doing wonderful things in that crit.

Krumbsthumbs
Oct 23, 2010

2nd Place.
1st Loser.

Bruceski posted:

Forget Xander, it's his HORSE that's doing wonderful things in that crit.

What, did you say, to that horse.

Also, holy poo poo what dark god have you sacrificed to for Charlotte to gain that much defense? Is that where her strength growth went? Beruka seems to be in the same camp, but put res in the place of defense.

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PizzaProwler
Nov 4, 2009

Or you can see me at The Riviera. Tuesday nights.
Pillowfights with Dominican mothers.

AradoBalanga posted:

I've come to notice that whoever was in charge of combat animation choreography for Fates really likes three things: rolling, spinning, and crazy flips. And I love every minute of his/her work because it shows that effort was put into Fates' development, while helping both weapons and especially classes have their own unique touch.

The special animation for Lethality (the one where the screen goes completely red and both the attacker and defender are rendered as silhouettes) is stylish as hell, and I crack a grin every time I see it. I don't usually play with animations on, but I might for SoV because the past couple of games have had such good battle animations.

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