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Hidingo Kojimba posted:Yeah. I actually liked the substance of Meteora's experience, I just wish they could have found any other way to deliver it to the viewer than a monologue. I thought the substance was awful. Maybe if this were episode 14 instead of 4 and she had any evidence to back up her insane logical leaps it could have been fine. No one questioned her, and she expressed no doubt, because the writers didn't know how to introduce their setting and so had the "smart" character
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Re Creators please don't tank I beseech thee.
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# ? Apr 30, 2017 22:45 |
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Desuwa posted:I thought the substance was awful. Maybe if this were episode 14 instead of 4 and she had any evidence to back up her insane logical leaps it could have been fine. No one questioned her, and she expressed no doubt, because the writers didn't know how to introduce their setting and so had the "smart" character I badly want her to have been totally wrong. That'd be a good and fun twist.
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# ? May 1, 2017 00:00 |
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:I badly want her to have been totally wrong. That'd be a good and fun twist. The next episode is 20 minutes of Meteora repeating her deductions to Military Uniform Princess while eating fried chicken, only for that to happen.
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# ? May 1, 2017 00:04 |
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Part of the monologue was Meteora explaining what would destablise the world faster and MUP immediately putting that into practise, so they're clearly reading from the same script.
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# ? May 1, 2017 00:14 |
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:I badly want her to have been totally wrong. That'd be a good and fun twist. It'd be a good and fun twist to quicker exposition. Spending half an episode on explaining a theory that isn't even true would be... a questionable decision. Especially when that time could be spent on her playing videogames. (Seriously, we get great potential internal conflicts for her and Silensia, and they get dealt with in one episode each, in the least interesting manner available. Someone trying to comprehend the nature of her dead god is the good poo poo, but we don't even get a whole episode's worth of examination before reaching the end of the arc.)
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# ? May 1, 2017 00:18 |
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# ? May 1, 2017 03:00 |
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I think Meteora was just playing to type: the mystical end-game librarian who infodumps the living poo poo out of everything. This better spoil the ending.
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# ? May 1, 2017 03:13 |
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Mirage posted:I think Meteora was just playing to type: the mystical end-game librarian who infodumps the living poo poo out of everything. You know, that reminds me of another missed opportunity. She's the main NPC in a game that looks to be a first person dungeon crawler. Meaning the hero has no defined and concrete identity separate from the player, which means that Captain Boring is simultaneously (due to having played it) The Hero, her first and only friend at the end of all things, and, well, a loser teenager who has no combat capabilities whatsoever. There's some interesting places you can go with that, and it gives you some room to flesh the guy out through natural character interaction. But no. She just plays the game herself. Offscreen.
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# ? May 1, 2017 05:02 |
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These aren't even the cabbages from Konosuba why would she be weak to them?
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# ? May 1, 2017 05:09 |
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This show continues to be so... Slow. It has such an interesting premise but it's still failing to do much with it. I really do hope it shapes up but I'm losing faith. When I start to lose interest halfway through an episode things are pretty rough going.
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# ? May 6, 2017 19:03 |
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Mirage posted:I think Meteora was just playing to type: the mystical end-game librarian who infodumps the living poo poo out of everything. This is what I assumed too. Because she's written as "the one who knows all the plot and background information, except for whether the hero can really succeed," she therefore knows the "plot" of reality and how things work because that's one of her abilities/traits.
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# ? May 6, 2017 19:13 |
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I assume that either Rui or Selesia is going to go rogue at some point? They're the only two members of the cast with giant robots, and we all know what that means.
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# ? May 6, 2017 19:13 |
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And now things start to get interesting.
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# ? May 6, 2017 19:44 |
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Infinity Gaia posted:This show continues to be so... Slow. It has such an interesting premise but it's still failing to do much with it. I really do hope it shapes up but I'm losing faith. When I start to lose interest halfway through an episode things are pretty rough going. They really could have condensed all of those points into 3 episodes if they removed the redundancies.
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# ? May 6, 2017 21:12 |
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So an episode or two ago they mentioned how characters are summoned due to having a big impact on viewers, but wasn't Meteora like an item shop NPC or something in her game? I guess maybe she became part of some meme or something they made her unusually popular?
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# ? May 6, 2017 22:37 |
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Ytlaya posted:So an episode or two ago they mentioned how characters are summoned due to having a big impact on viewers, but wasn't Meteora like an item shop NPC or something in her game? I guess maybe she became part of some meme or something they made her unusually popular? I think she was like the final save point NPC or something so I guess players doing post game stuff would see her a lot?
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# ? May 6, 2017 22:39 |
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chumbler posted:I think she was like the final save point NPC or something so I guess players doing post game stuff would see her a lot? Yeah, though even then it's a little weird for her to have made a huge impact along the lines of all these other characters (who seem to be protagonists, rivals of the protagonists, etc). As an unrelated note, I feel bad for Sota that he no longer gets to live with the two (literal) anime girls.
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# ? May 6, 2017 22:52 |
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meteora is probably a lot of people's waifu
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# ? May 6, 2017 23:15 |
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The Colonel posted:meteora is probably a lot of people's waifu She's Elizabeth from Persona, that kinda character. Everyone remembers Elizabeth.
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# ? May 6, 2017 23:45 |
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The Colonel posted:meteora is probably a lot of people's waifu Mine, for example.
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# ? May 7, 2017 02:17 |
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I can't help but wonder if Meteora will end up replacing MUPpet as the main villain eventually. There's not much hard evidence for it (and especially not much that can't be dismissed as simple bad writing), but it does make a weird kind of sense, cobsidering how she seemed to reach such an odd (and accurate) conclusion so quickly and easily about MUP's endgame, her being a side-character who somehow managed to reach the real world, the way she stole all those JSDF munitions (which I can't help but suspect will turn up in MUP's terrorist campaign), and generally how she's drawing so much trust and power around herself despite not being one of the protagonists. I feel it could be a pretty cool twist, at least.
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# ? May 7, 2017 02:34 |
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drilldo squirt posted:Mine, for example.
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# ? May 7, 2017 02:38 |
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This show is kind of frustrating right now. It avoids a lot of the obvious pitfalls, it has interesting ideas and it has moments that show it can be fun and clever... But it it doesn't flow, and spends huge portions of episodes on exposition, just slopped on down without style or grace. It's moving at a respectable speed when you look strictly at what happened, but the delivery style makes everything feel so much slower than it should. Not dropping it yet, but it'd be nice if it either got better or it went for the amusing kind of bad.
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# ? May 7, 2017 04:49 |
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here's what I think about Meteora's long-winded exposition about what's going on that isn't rooted in much in the way of evidence at all: she's full of poo poo but she's convincing at being full of poo poo, and now at this point she has a substantial number of summoned heroes and the goddamn Japanese military going along with it. in some way she's not on the level and this is in service to what she's looking to have happen here. I don't think that's what gunsaber girl is trying to do whatsoever but Meteora has a reason for taking her down - of our non-antagonist cast she's the one who talked with that girl the most and if this anime is good our hero will tell everyone what the gently caress is going on with that girl next goddamn episode
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# ? May 7, 2017 05:03 |
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Some real weird decisions made for the pacing of this show. I like Meteora a lot but she's been absolutely hogging the script for the past two episodes.
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# ? May 7, 2017 06:33 |
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the tedious exposition character constantly spouting tedious exposition might be clever if it was subverted in some way, like how the magical girl was not able to explode people into doing what she wants. instead, meteora just endlessly blabbers on except for brief pauses where everyone present agrees with her.
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# ? May 7, 2017 07:43 |
I'm just looking forward to the inevitable Comiket episode where everyone gets to cosplay as themselves, but then they discover the porn doujins. It will be how Meteora turns to the dark side.
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# ? May 7, 2017 08:28 |
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:the tedious exposition character constantly spouting tedious exposition might be clever if it was subverted in some way, like how the magical girl was not able to explode people into doing what she wants. instead, meteora just endlessly blabbers on except for brief pauses where everyone present agrees with her. my understanding is that she is the quest giver npc so her just blabbing on and on about the plot nobody cares about is pretty fitting.
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# ? May 7, 2017 09:31 |
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# ? May 7, 2017 09:50 |
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lmao at the government official hanging the cost of
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# ? May 7, 2017 11:59 |
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At least it's kind of refreshing to see a relatively competent government organization for once. I expected them to be antagonistic, but they were somewhat on top of things.
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# ? May 7, 2017 12:07 |
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Shin Godzilla was incredibly influential
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# ? May 7, 2017 12:26 |
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Mech Boy is a good kid who is also savage af
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# ? May 7, 2017 20:01 |
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Are you kidding me? We just spent two entire episodes with characters sitting around doing nothing but explaining things to each other, so in this episode...the characters sit around and talk about the exact same thing with the government. They could have really, really easily simply merged these last two episodes and have Meteora theorize to both the government and the other characters at once. Also the government sure is friendly and accommodating to these weird super-people who claim to have fallen out of anime/video games and who have spent their short time in the world engaging in massive fights in public places.
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# ? May 7, 2017 20:23 |
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Next episode better have flashbacks of the respective girls' and boys' nights out to make up for the lack of eating in this one.
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# ? May 7, 2017 20:31 |
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Next episode is entirely exposition about the origin of MUP, mark my words
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# ? May 7, 2017 20:46 |
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Iretep posted:my understanding is that she is the quest giver npc so her just blabbing on and on about the plot nobody cares about is pretty fitting. Reminds me of Nagato Yuki from Haruhi, except they managed to make Yuki's infodumps fun and interesting by animating more than lip flaps while she talks.
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# ? May 8, 2017 00:05 |
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okay okay it's catch-up night. A+ madoka ref here quote:Both of the actresses really love the scene where Madoka rescues Homura. Keep it a secret! (内緒だよ naisho da yo) like with a star on the end. There was actually a star written in the script for that line. Yuuki thought that there was a kinda fine line between 'cool' and 'annoying' for that.
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# ? May 8, 2017 10:38 |
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Someone pointed out to me that the last episode had ten animation directors. It seems like the animation studio bit off more than they could chew.
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