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CelticPredator posted:Alien 3 Ripley straight up calls it a Xenomorph. She's not really mis-using the term. It's mostly become the "official" name because it's a unique word in 'Aliens' that people latched onto because it's memorable, and FOX has never really openly corrected anybody. They've tried floating other "official" species names but they never catch on, and the majority of times when "xenomorph" is used in the fiction, it's used in the same context as it was in 'Aliens'. "Yautja" came from the novelization of the original AvP comic series (it isn't used in the comic itself), and people latched onto it as a species name because the book was really popular when it came out. Fox just kinda embraced it as the "official" species name after the fact because everyone was already using it anyway - aside from a brief stint in the late-00s when they were called "The Hish", but Fox likes to pretend that didn't happen. The Predator DLC for Mortal Kombat X does make a Hish shout-out, which was pretty funny for long-time turbonerds like me. 
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'Xenomorph' literally just means 'alien-form'. For context: a 'zoomorph' is an 'animal-form', and an 'anthropomorph' is a 'human-form'. These are actual words. 'Xenomorph' is not a name. It is a term. The question is, of course, what is being given this alien form. Like, we say that a god or animal is anthropomorphized if it is given a human shape in art. Likewise, we can say that a person or god is zoomorphized if they are given an animal shape in art (e.g. Aslan in the Narnia stories). So, the joke in Aliens is that Gorman is using technical-sounding language to cover up the fact that they're killing people. The colonists are being 'xenomorphized' by Gorman: "they are no longer like us." His message is that the revolting colonists are like aliens, and we can kill them with impunity.
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Vasquez thought Gorman meant illegal alien and signed up
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alf_pogs posted:Vasquez thought Gorman meant illegal alien and signed up Bingo. In the film, Cameron uses 'aliens' and 'dehumanized people' interchangeably. The arcturians are literally xenomorphized people. The characters are talking about Thai ladyboys as if they're an alien species.
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alf_pogs posted:Vasquez thought Gorman meant illegal alien and signed up
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Bingo. In the film, Cameron uses 'aliens' and 'dehumanized people' interchangeably. Frost was the best marine, hence Hicks' advice for everybody to be more like him
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You've all been thinking about Aliens in the exact wrong way. The question isn't "Where's Bowski?" but rather "Why Bowski?"
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Funny thing about the 3 riddick movies is the third one is the most critically acclaimed and also the worst.
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the best riddick movie is actually a video game
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alf_pogs posted:the best riddick movie is actually a video game Catchin' Moths in Prison: The Game To be fair, that's far better than Alien: Isolation which is "Vomiting Mannequin Simulator 2014" HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Which is a gag STOLEN from Gremlins 2. The world wasn't ready for Gremlins 2.
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My world was. Once I found out Gremlins 2 existed as a kid, I waited months for it to be returned to Blockbuster, and when I finally watched it didn't disappoint. It's an all timer for me.
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I am at the crew premiere in Sydney about to watch the film. Happy to answer questions after I've watched it
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Laserface posted:I am at the crew premiere in Sydney about to watch the film. Happy to answer questions after I've watched it Who's the Best Boy?
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Dan Didio posted:Who's the Best Boy? David
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Laserface posted:I am at the crew premiere in Sydney about to watch the film. Happy to answer questions after I've watched it pretty jealous! have a great time. my non-spoiler questions are, does the cgi look good / how much remains of the physical effects and is it a cool and fun film?
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Despera posted:Alien isolation is good true that
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The reviews are up on rotten tomatoes, positive so far
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Despera posted:The reviews are up on rotten tomatoes, positive so far This review sounds pretty exciting.
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This is indeed a pretty exciting review. Alien: Covenant could be....good?
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Gonz posted:This is indeed a pretty exciting review. It will be good.
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Actually, as it is getting a positive reception, it will instead turn out to be bad and the thread with devolve into constant arguments about how Prometheus was better.
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ImpAtom posted:Actually, as it is getting a positive reception, it will instead turn out to be bad and the thread with devolve into constant arguments about how Prometheus was better. this is already starting with the good reviews saying "boy this made me reconsider prometheus, maybe that movie was good after all"
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Prometheus was generally well received Though it didn't set James Franco on fire Despera fucked around with this message at 10:03 on May 7, 2017 |
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ImpAtom posted:Actually, as it is getting a positive reception, it will instead turn out to be bad and the thread with devolve into constant arguments about how Prometheus was better. Rest assured that wont happen at least.... right away.
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http://uproxx.com/movies/alien-covenant-review/ This rear end in a top hat didn't like David
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http://weliveentertainment.com/welivefilm/alien-covenant-review-promises-promises/ This rear end in a top hat liked resurrection
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZRZqgH7mro
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Probably rank this fan video third in the series best
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It was a good film and a bad alien film. The cgi is ok but obvious. I went into this not knowing anything about the film (I'm a +1 to the crew member) so take that as you will. It doesn't really do anything new with the the xeno. It has some good action sequences though. I feel like it was written purely to make Prometheus make sense. 6/10.
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There be blood in the water coming.
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What makes a good Alien film? Because for me, it's 100% doing something new and exciting for the story. Prometheus was the step in the right direction as far as I'm concerned.
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https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/may/07/alien-covenant-review-ridley-scott-michael-fassbender-katherine-waterston-prometheus 3/5 - "plays like a greatest-hits compilation of the original films’ freakiest moments" Disappointing or likely to please fans?
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Despera posted:Alien isolation is good No. alf_pogs posted:the best riddick movie is actually a video game Which one of them? I like them both. "No law ever written is as powerful as cold steel."
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Alien Isolation is excellent but I wish it had a code where you could skip to the Alien levels. The first few hours are boring during a replay.
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I feel like we've discussed this before, but I feel the opposite. The first few hours were interesting for their art direction, but once you get to the "gameplay" it's just repetitive hide-and-seek with an incredibly simple AI, and just as repetitive quick-time-event-like puzzles and fetch quests. It goes on way too long. I had high hopes for the game, but unless these kinds of horror games manage to find a way to make the monster bits actually enjoyable from a gameplay perspective I'd rather they not even try and go full-on walking simulator.
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The first Riddick game (I never got around to playing the second) and Alien: Isolation are both loving awesome.
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The one definite failing of the Isolation was having the window between you getting all the items that could unlock previously inaccessible bonus areas and them being blocked off forever was way too short. Over and over in the games thread just after it was released people would ask when they should start backtracking and nearly every time they'd missed their opportunity. Very unlikely we're getting a sequel though. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2017-04-26-alien-isolation-2-rumour-isnt-true
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