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Mokinokaro posted:Y-L's entire problem is that people believe Banjo Kazooie was better than it actually was. Someone earlier in this thread posted an extremely detailed YouTube comment from an internet critic that outlined the extra flaws in Yooka-Yaylee that the original Banjo-Kazooie doesn't have. That convinced me, from the perspective of a banjo kazooie fan, that the game is still probably not that good. I don't have the image saved though, will have to find it.
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Weird Sandwich posted:Someone earlier in this thread posted an extremely detailed YouTube comment from an internet critic that outlined the extra flaws in Yooka-Yaylee that the original Banjo-Kazooie doesn't have. That convinced me, from the perspective of a banjo kazooie fan, that the game is still probably not that good. I don't have the image saved though, will have to find it. Was it this comment I posted from Voidburger? Also, here's a related video she put up a while back that was probably posted during this discussion.
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TheMaestroso posted:Was it this comment I posted from Voidburger? Yes that's exactly what I was referring to, thank you for posting it! I find it a much more useful criticism for fans of that style of game than most reviews, which are more broadly negative of collectathons as a whole.
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May 6, 2017 17:19
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I do find it odd they chose a winter world with ice physics and the whole "Ice Level" package as the second world. It's like DK 64 all over again in how the first level was pretty okay, but tons of people dropped the game as soon as they reached the second world which was full of annoying "Desert Level" poo poo like stinging sand and timed puzzles and...basically more sand.
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May 6, 2017 17:21
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Viewtiful Jew posted:I do find it odd they chose a winter world with ice physics and the whole "Ice Level" package as the second world. It's like DK 64 all over again in how the first level was pretty okay, but tons of people dropped the game as soon as they reached the second world which was full of annoying "Desert Level" poo poo like stinging sand and timed puzzles and...basically more sand. i don't like sand. it's coarse and rough and irritating, and it gets everywhere.
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May 6, 2017 18:42
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Have we talked about how good the star wars prequels actually were?
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May 6, 2017 20:19
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Leal posted:Have we talked about how good the star wars prequels actually were? Today I discovered that Episode 1 had Brian Blessed in it, so it automatically became my favorite Star Wars movie.
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May 6, 2017 20:21
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Archer666 posted:Today I discovered that Episode 1 had Brian Blessed in it, so it automatically became my favorite Star Wars movie.  I did not know that.
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May 6, 2017 20:26
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Absurd Alhazred posted:
 Unrelated note, I found this video in my recommended tab. If you need further proof that everyone outside the McElroy brothers at Polygon is garbage. Call of Duty WW2 is Sexist.
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May 6, 2017 20:28
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drat, its amazing how different a man can look after shaving their beard.
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May 6, 2017 20:30
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Leal posted:drat, its amazing how different a man can look after shaving their beard. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-ohKuKy4_s
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May 6, 2017 20:31
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Et tu, Absurd?
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Leal posted:Et tu, Absurd? Ceterum censeo Criticem esse delendam.
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May 6, 2017 20:34
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Leal posted:Have we talked about how good the star wars prequels actually were? I was bored and sifting through my facebook friend's list which is basically a good historical record of where I was a few years ago and that for a long time internet critics would accept friend requests before like pages became a thing for people to use.
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May 6, 2017 21:04
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Arcsquad12 posted:
i swear to fuckin god polygons sole reason for existing is to give ammo to the 'the sjws are ruining everything  ' crowd
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May 6, 2017 21:33
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*Climbs out of lurking hole* Since Star Wars was mentioned Eruditorum Press had a series looking at the movies a few months back. A guy who usually looks at horror/exploitation is also collaborating with someone for a series that starts with star wars: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fzr86jKCZ4U
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May 6, 2017 21:43
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I saw this being promoted on Facebook and I assumed that it was an offical promotional tie-in animation. I'm sad that it's not, because these voices are much better than the gibberish noises Yooka-Laylee actually uses. Laylee's cockney kinda thing is great.
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May 6, 2017 22:32
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is this a totally honest and not poo poo look at that thing someone wrote there saying 'hey CoD if you're gonna constantly give us zombies and have us play the one noble soldier that basically won the war alone and poo poo like that citing 'historical accuracy' for having no minority characters outside of nameless npcs is stupid' because that wasn't calling for some checklist roster where you spend ten minutes playing as a soldier of every possible gender identity and racial background it was calling for better characters in general and using historical examples to back them up.
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It starts with them using Saving Private Ryan as an example of an accurate movie and whines about the writer of the polygon article not arguing over every other single war perspective so heck no.
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Kunster posted:It starts with them using Saving Private Ryan as an example of an accurate movie and whines about the writer of the polygon article not arguing over every other single war perspective so heck no. oh weird so a reactionary 'historian' actually doesn't know what he's talking about? Well poo poo this is a new situation to be in for sure. But yea I'm not sure if there's been another thing on it but the original CoD thing I saw was a pretty reasonable statement of 'actually WW2 was much more than the battlefields we normally see, and it'd be cool if a game that's huffing its own rear end on how real and gritty it is could show the perspectives of, say, civilian female nurses who were often just as at risk but for none of the respect, or non-white soldiers struggling with the politics back home as well as abroad'. You know, something people say about WW2 media constantly.
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Yeah from what I read that "historian" is talking out of his rear end.
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Could you try rewriting those posts so they aren't run on sentences that'd be great.
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actually run on sentences own
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That article is legit hilarious though. It's Peak Liberal. e: Okay I was wrong, this is Peak Liberal. BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 23:34 on May 6, 2017 |
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Even aside from representation, I'd just like to see a World War 2 game have a single level that wasn't lifted from Saving Private Ryan, Band of Brothers, or Enemy at the Gates. Things I've never seen in a WW2 FPS include: Italy, any reference to the Italians or Axis Minors, the entirety of Russia and Eastern Europe (excluding Stalingrad), China, or India
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Deport The Irish posted:Even aside from representation, I'd just like to see a World War 2 game have a single level that wasn't lifted from Saving Private Ryan, Band of Brothers, or Enemy at the Gates. The North African campaign had some historic battles.
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Deport The Irish posted:Things I've never seen in a WW2 FPS include: Italy, any reference to the Italians or Axis Minors, the entirety of Russia and Eastern Europe (excluding Stalingrad), China, or India CoD 3 had whole sections for a Polish tank crew and Canadian I think paratroopers, World at War had a bunch of Russian poo poo that wasn't purely Stalingrad, I'm forgetting which but I know there's been Italy in at least one or two others as well. China and India though yeah, pretty much untouched as far as I can think of.
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Yardbomb posted:CoD 3 had whole sections for a Polish tank crew and Canadian I think paratroopers, World at War had a bunch of Russian poo poo that wasn't purely Stalingrad, I'm forgetting which but I know there's been Italy in at least one or two others as well. CoD 3 never got a PC release so I had to skip that one, and for some reason the entirety of World at War just vanished from my memory. That gives Treyarch some points, though. Deport The Irish fucked around with this message at 05:04 on May 7, 2017 |
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I would kill for a World War 2 game that covers the early war up through 1941. The invasion of Crete or the fall of the British Empire's pacific holdings would be great. As would a game based around the British commando operations following Dunkirk.
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Deport The Irish posted:Even aside from representation, I'd just like to see a World War 2 game have a single level that wasn't lifted from Saving Private Ryan, Band of Brothers, or Enemy at the Gates. You play a group of German soldiers sent into Russian winter wastelands. The protagonists are all conscripted soldiers who don't believe in the war and are there against their will. The goal is to keep the characters alive for as long as possible. The game ends when all the sympathetic characters die from starvation, freezing to death in the Russian winter, suicide, or sniped by an invisible Russian wearing white (instead of your grey/green camouflage) or being shot by their own commanding officer for questioning orders. Every level is just another nameless village deeper and deeper into the Russian inland that's been striped of all supplies and burned to the ground as the villagers fled. In some very rare game instances, you survive the war, and spend the rest of your life in a prison for war crimes.
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Re: Marxist criticism, one of the reasons the "Cultural Marxist" conspiracy theory keeps bubbling back to the surface (aside from anti-Semitism) is because the works of Frankfurt School Marxists, Situationists and Gramsci are currently the only Communists to get a positive hearing in academic courses on sociology media and journalism. Society of the Spectacle (good luck), and Caligari to Hitler etc are still found on reading lists. The only exception I came across was Mao Ze Dong, he was very popular with my military history lecturers and they were very right wing. Which I've always found rather telling. Falstaff posted:Well, he can probably speak for himself since he posts here occasionally, but he said in his video on cultural marxism (iirc) he's never actually read Das Kapital, so it seems unlikely. (Though there's more to Marxism than just that book, so it's still in the realm of possibility.) If that's the definition your using then we can discount 90% of the worlds Marxists. Capital isn't really about Communist theory its an examination of capitalist economics just stripped of any justifications. That's why there's never been a proper counter argument to it. Plenty people have mocked and argued bits of it but there's never been a total negation because that would require denying really important parts of how capitalism works. As far as Marx and Engels were concerned you were a Communist if you agreed with the 1847 principles of Communism. https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm
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Deport The Irish posted:Even aside from representation, I'd just like to see a World War 2 game have a single level that wasn't lifted from Saving Private Ryan, Band of Brothers, or Enemy at the Gates. I've only played one CoD game, and that was Call of Duty 2 from 2005. It was split into three campaigns, and the first one was focused around the Soviets, where you were fighting to retake Stalingrad. I don't remember much else about it, other than that it seems like the D-Day level got special attention, and that while playing it, it made me want to play a Wolfenstein game instead. There are a lot of WWII games. The Medal of Honor series might have featured something you listed. EDIT: \/ \/ \/ It also looks like MoH: Airborne's first two levels were set in Italy, so there's that too. Max Wilco fucked around with this message at 06:46 on May 7, 2017 |
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Medal of Honour II Underground on the Play Station included fighting in Italy and occupied Greece. There were also a number of strategy games for the PC that renacted other campaigns. And Mafia II's prologue is in the Italian theatre, but yeah its pretty sparse. Same for World War One, Battlefield has helped a little there though.
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Alaois posted:I recommended it in another thread but the YMRT series Charles Manson's Hollywood is essentially a fantastic longform for people like me who don't have the patience to read longforms. I'd say listen to the one-off episode Frank Sinatra In Space to get a taste and then either Charles Manson's Hollywood or MGM Stories. Just wanna say you and the others suggesting YMRT were right: it's fantastic so far.
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Baka-nin posted:If that's the definition your using then we can discount 90% of the worlds Marxists. Capital isn't really about Communist theory its an examination of capitalist economics just stripped of any justifications. That's why there's never been a proper counter argument to it. Plenty people have mocked and argued bits of it but there's never been a total negation because that would require denying really important parts of how capitalism works. I mean, okay... But the question wasn't if HBG was socialist/communist, it's if he was Marxist. In my experience, most (but not all) people who describe themselves as bonafide Marxists have at least made an attempt to read Kapital. Granted, not everyone who makes the attempt gets through it, given how incredibly dry it is compared to other works in the same umbrella. If your experience is different, that's fine. I was only offering conjecture based on my own not-necessarily-representative sampling.
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Falstaff posted:I mean, okay... But the question wasn't if HBG was socialist/communist, it's if he was Marxist. In my experience, most (but not all) people who describe themselves as bonafide Marxists have at least made an attempt to read Kapital. Granted, not everyone who makes the attempt gets through it, given how incredibly dry it is compared to other works in the same umbrella. I wasn't attacking you so you can dial the defensive down there buddy.
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Uh, I really didn't think I was being defensive? Just trying to explain. Sorry.
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lornekates posted:You play a group of German soldiers sent into Russian winter wastelands. The protagonists are all conscripted soldiers who don't believe in the war and are there against their will.
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Arcsquad12 posted:
Actually, this video is super loving bad. I don't see how Polygon saying "It kinda stinks nearly every bit of WW2 media is about the same sort of stock characters (i.e. noble white infantrymen) going through the horrors of war. It would be nice to see perspectives other than that because they existed" is evidence of them being garbage. It downplays a lot of the contributions non-white people and women made during wartime. It also sucks when corporations make a big deal about including a "diverse cast" that only amounts to them showing up for a hot minute in the story. The Harlem Hellfighters in Battlefield 1 are an especially egregious case of this. It's getting tiresome seeing people jump down the throats of outlets like Polygon, Waypoint or Vox for attempting to do stories about excluded people in mainstream media. Vanderdeath fucked around with this message at 10:13 on May 7, 2017 |
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A level or two from the perspective of one of the Night Witches would be goddamned insane.
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