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GodFish posted:It looks like Seattle has something like 15 different marches or rallys planned for today including a pro Trump one planned for the same time as the anarchist march. Should be good. I hope some nazis get punched
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gohmak posted:I hope some nazis get punched 
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Connecticutian here. I definitely want to get more involved, but I also have to admit that I've honestly been feeling a little bit at a loss for what else I can do to help make an impact living in a solidly blue region of the country. My senators and representative (Blumenthal, Murphy, and Himes) aren't the kind of people who need to be swayed with constituent pressure; they're always pretty outspoken against the administration and its policies, so when I do contact one of their offices every now and then, all I can really do is provide words of support and encouragement on stances that they've usually already taken pretty vocally. Anyone, especially any blue state residents, have any suggestions for how I can get off my rear end and start helping out some more? IBroughttheFunk fucked around with this message at 22:26 on May 4, 2017 |
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May 4, 2017 15:35
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IBroughttheFunk posted:Connecticutian here. I definitely want to get more involved, but I also have to admit that I've honestly been feeling a little bit at a loss for what else I can do to help make an impact living in a solidly blue region of the country. My senators and representative (Blumenthal, Murphy, and Himes) aren't the kind of people who need to be swayed with constituent pressure; always pretty outspoken against the administration and its policies, so when I do contact every now and then, all I can really do is provide words of support and encouragement on stances that they've usually already taken pretty vocally. I'm not in the US, but have you considered issue-specific groups? ACLU, Black Cross and other legal groups usually need people to welcome folks out of jail and set up meetings and stuff like that. Local antifa, food/homeless groups or copwatch are always good options, too.
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May 4, 2017 19:20
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Yeah, if the national seems to be in good shape, look local. I live in one of the bluest parts of the bluest states (San Francisco) but still the amount of bullshit that is done locally gives activists plenty to do. And even if you're more interested in national politics, getting better state government is key to ensuring a future for leftism in the US... the Right has been playing this game while the Democrats ignored it for at least a decade now and it's why we're where we're at nationally.
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As you know, the 2016 presidential race in Michigan was very close. What you may not know is that voting machine issues and irregularities in the city of Detroit may have disenfranchised as much as a third of the city's overwhelmingly Democratic voters.quote:He blamed the discrepancies on the city’s decade-old voting machines, saying 87 optical scanners broke on Election Day. Many jammed when voters fed ballots into scanners, which can result in erroneous vote counts if ballots are inserted multiple times. Poll workers are supposed to adjust counters to reflect a single vote but in many cases failed to do so, causing the discrepancies, Baxter said.... Now City Clerk is up for election (the person that handles voting machines and training poll workers etc) and Garlin Gilchrist II is running for it. Throw him some money, its a three-way race and the incumbent is currently leading though with a huge percentage of undecideds. You can also hear Garlin speak at this link.
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May 4, 2017 19:50
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Oracle posted:
Thanks for posting this, donated!
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May 4, 2017 20:15
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I don't know how actually effective this would be but here's a site that offers to help you mail your ashes to the GOP when you inevitably die of an easily treatable disease: http://mailmetothegop.com/
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May 5, 2017 14:34
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You can put human remains through the post in the US?
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May 5, 2017 20:10
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OwlFancier posted:You can put human remains through the post in the US? Only via USPS.
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May 5, 2017 20:14
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Only via USPS. I'm pretty sure you explicitly can't in the UK, and would have to find a courier.
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May 5, 2017 20:16
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There are apparently nazis marching in my town next Saturday and I'm frightened at the prospect. My local DSA and some other socialist groups are organizing a planning meeting this week, presumably to figure out a counterprotest. I've never seen either a nazi rally or attended a proper counterprotest, and I'm not sure what to do. I'm afraid there will be violence, as the nazis have a facebook even for it where they're apparently trying to provoke antifa groups into attacking them, but I can't ignore nazis any more. What should I do?
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May 7, 2017 18:06
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Jack Gladney posted:There are apparently nazis marching in my town next Saturday and I'm frightened at the prospect. My local DSA and some other socialist groups are organizing a planning meeting this week, presumably to figure out a counterprotest. I've never seen either a nazi rally or attended a proper counterprotest, and I'm not sure what to do. I'm afraid there will be violence, as the nazis have a facebook even for it where they're apparently trying to provoke antifa groups into attacking them, but I can't ignore nazis any more. What should I do? Got a clocktower nearby?
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May 7, 2017 18:09
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Hilariously there is a LARP event with over a thousand people attending right next to the event. I'm in Boston and the nazis are marching downtown next to Boston Common, where the LARPers are having a medieval nerf war.
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May 7, 2017 18:22
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Idea: Dress up like Allied soldiers and make it look like some elaborate historical re-enactment.
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Jack Gladney posted:There are apparently nazis marching in my town next Saturday and I'm frightened at the prospect. My local DSA and some other socialist groups are organizing a planning meeting this week, presumably to figure out a counterprotest. I've never seen either a nazi rally or attended a proper counterprotest, and I'm not sure what to do. I'm afraid there will be violence, as the nazis have a facebook even for it where they're apparently trying to provoke antifa groups into attacking them, but I can't ignore nazis any more. What should I do? Beforehand, go to the planning meeting. Decide what your appetite for risk is. Make sure that you are in some kind of a group communication thread with your comrades, preferably something like Signal. Have the telephone number for your local branch of the national lawyer's guild written somewhere on your body. On site, be aware of what factions are at play. Typically at those kinds of events, on their side there's going to be the overt fascists/nazis, some less radical but still pretty dangerous nationalists (note whether they're waving US flags or dressed up like nazis), and then the police, who in my experience tend to do a lot more protection of the fascists. On your side, there is going to be a smaller contingent of black bloc types (with the face masks and the black clothes, usually anarchist or of other ultraleft persuasion) and a larger body of less radical protestors, including people from the DSA and other orgs you mentioned in addition to sympathetic left-liberals of varying degrees. The overt fascists and the black bloc will typically be at the front lines of the conflict, and it's highly probable you will see exchanges of blows. Depending on how quick and heated the frontline conflict gets will determine when the police intervene. It sounds like your appetite for risk is lower, so you will probably want to be more in the outer perimeter. But keep your eyes open, and be aware of what is happening around you, on all sides. Coordinate with comrades to make sure that key observations are communicated. Be aware of where street medics are, they will typically have red crosses taped on themselves or their bags. They will typically have the means to treat pepper spray (from both cops and belligerents) and lacerations. The key determining factor in the dynamic will be the relative sizes of the general fascist and antifascist contingents. Accordingly, if you are going to take part in this, go all in and try to bring as many people as you can to this. And remember what's at stake. This action will not make the fascists go away, but it will show the people they wish to oppress that there are those who can stand with them in solidarity. And it can serve to undermine the morale of the fascist tendencies. Mr. Lobe fucked around with this message at 18:39 on May 7, 2017 |
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May 7, 2017 18:29
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Oh, and if you want to do a lower risk but productive action to support the antifascist action, consider recording the proceedings. Just remember to bring a spare external battery if you are using your phone, as that eats through charge right quick. Also, remember that you can walk away at any time.
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May 7, 2017 18:38
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Thank you very much. That's exactly the perspective to help me think things through. I'm caught up on the question of what I'm prepared to do and endure, but I agree that I have to know my exact lines before I show up. I just might record things.
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May 7, 2017 19:26
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FAUXTON posted:Got a clocktower nearby? I know this is a joke but it's the kinda joke that I worry will get us flagged by the FBI and I don't want to see Fox News run the headline COMMUNIST GAY ABORTION LOVING GUERRILLA BREEDING GROUND WEBSITE SOMETHING AWFUL DOT COM RAIDED FOR SUSPECTED TERRORISMS
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May 7, 2017 21:02
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Jack Gladney posted:Hilariously there is a LARP event with over a thousand people attending right next to the event. I'm in Boston and the nazis are marching downtown next to Boston Common, where the LARPers are having a medieval nerf war. Wait, what? I'm in Boston and this is the first I've heard of it. What's all this then?
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May 7, 2017 21:28
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RiotGearEpsilon posted:Wait, what? I'm in Boston and this is the first I've heard of it. What's all this then? Search "Boston free speech march" on facebook to find their event page. They seem to have deleted some of the nazi stuff but still have posts talking about trying to get Richard Spencer to come. No idea if there's a separate site where they're organizing, but I kind of infer that there is.
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May 7, 2017 21:33
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Jack Gladney posted:Search "Boston free speech march" on facebook to find their event page. They seem to have deleted some of the nazi stuff but still have posts talking about trying to get Richard Spencer to come. No idea if there's a separate site where they're organizing, but I kind of infer that there is. If Richard Spencer is going to be there print out this tweet on a big sign and print out a giant anime lady on another big sign saying RICHARD BE MAI WAIFU or something more clever i'm not good at signs https://twitter.com/richardbspencer/status/689692099009097729
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May 7, 2017 21:42
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They didn't get him. It's not going to be a big showing (60-100 people), but worrisome for MA where the last "pro-Trump" rally was 30 people on the sidewalk outside the statehouse because they didn't file a permit in time.
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May 7, 2017 21:44
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ate all the Oreos posted:If Richard Spencer is going to be there print out this tweet on a big sign and print out a giant anime lady on another big sign saying RICHARD BE MAI WAIFU or something more clever i'm not good at signs Why is his twitter handle now "Richard Brazilian rear end in a top hat Spencer"?  Also that facebook page is maddening. Boston Free Speech posted:We are a group of politically diverse and active citizens who will march the Freedom Trail of Boston. We will show the city that our march will not be stopped by Antifa, or any other radical-left organization that deems anyone a Nazi. A "politically diverse" group with a picture of a helmet that says "Right Wing Safety Squad" as their banner. Sounds about right. Group page is equally as annoying, with such amazingly useless thought experiments like "What if Antifascists are the real nazis"  As a Massachusetts native I'd be up for going to a counter-protest if one exists. Spreading intolerance is one of the biggest abuses of free speech that I can think of. Unfortunately I'm absolute garbage at signs because the only thing I can think of as a counterpoint would be "The right to free speech does not include the right to be taken seriously" from Hubert H. Humphrey but I don't think that applies. EDIT: Jack Gladney posted:They didn't get him. It's not going to be a big showing (60-100 people), but worrisome for MA where the last "pro-Trump" rally was 30 people on the sidewalk outside the statehouse because they didn't file a permit in time. That actually doesn't make me feel too bad, since I went to the Tax Day Rally in Boston and there was anywhere from 2 to 3 times as many people as this freedom march or whatever is theoretically pulling. Angry_Ed fucked around with this message at 21:57 on May 7, 2017 |
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May 7, 2017 21:51
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Jack Gladney posted:Thank you very much. That's exactly the perspective to help me think things through. I'm caught up on the question of what I'm prepared to do and endure, but I agree that I have to know my exact lines before I show up. If you do this be mindful that some antifa orgs will ask you not to record or photograph them, particularly if they're in black bloc, and you should do your best to respect that -- they're there for your protection too, after all. You may also want to get Signal for your phone, read about how to set it up, and reach out to people in various orgs to coordinate with them so you are where you will be most helpful.
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ate all the Oreos posted:I know this is a joke but it's the kinda joke that I worry will get us flagged by the FBI and I don't want to see Fox News run the headline COMMUNIST GAY ABORTION LOVING GUERRILLA BREEDING GROUND WEBSITE SOMETHING AWFUL DOT COM RAIDED FOR SUSPECTED TERRORISMS SA seems to be at a much more relaxed DEFCON with regards to this kind of thing, which I find counterintuitive given the current climate
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Reene posted:If you do this be mindful that some antifa orgs will ask you not to record or photograph them, particularly if they're in black bloc, and you should do your best to respect that -- they're there for your protection too, after all. Yeah, I should have been a bit more clear, the people to focus on are the reactionaries and the cops. That way if they pull some heinous poo poo, there is evidence.
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Jack Gladney posted:Thank you very much. That's exactly the perspective to help me think things through. I'm caught up on the question of what I'm prepared to do and endure, but I agree that I have to know my exact lines before I show up. A couple of other things of note. It never hurts to bring water and snacks, even if you aren't planning on being out there too long. Wear comfortable clothing, and shoes that you are comfortable standing, walking, or running in. Make sure you have some idea of the layout the area the protest will be in.
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May 7, 2017 23:38
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I've just become admin for a a pretty large antifa facebookgroup and, boy do alt-right people have a lot of time on their hands. Also, they reaaaaaally love threatening bodily harm.
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ekuNNN posted:I've just become admin for a a pretty large antifa facebookgroup and, boy do alt-right people have a lot of time on their hands. Also, they reaaaaaally love threatening bodily harm. gently caress, my friend runs an IRC channel that's simultaneously about tech and also doesn't tolerate the usual nerd bigotry and he's had alt-right people trying to come in and shitpost / spam / dodge bans for three years at this point. Like the same 5-10 people, over and over. I only even know about this because sometimes they spill over into my completely unrelated IRC channel and stalk him in there instead.
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Boston DSA and some other socialist org I can't remember are having a planning commission meeting on Wednesday to strategize before that free speech march. On a personal level I'm tempted to get a big loving boom box and blare that episode of Chapo Trap House where they interview Angela Nagle about her book on the psychology of the alt-right. I think they would enjoy that particular form of free speech.
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Sign ideas off the top of my head: The most violent element in society is ignorance gently caress home to the nazi moon Everyone hates you Right to speech, not to action
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May 8, 2017 06:56
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Just pretend you're with the free speech rally and carry a massive sign that reads, FREE FOGLE
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quote:Alert: An alt-right clown infiltrated a meeting and has stolen Boston DSA’s sign-in sheets and is threatening to doxx members.
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Truly our finest hour 
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May 12, 2017 16:56
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Like a guy with a big red nose, frizzy wig, and a swastika armband who goose steps in squeaky rubber jackboots? I would have thought they might have been able to spot him coming, personally.
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May 12, 2017 19:10
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Join an ATT strike, yo* https://actionnetwork.org/event_campaigns/strike-at-att-mobility?source=DSA *If an agreement isn't reached.
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Ruzihm posted:Join an ATT strike, yo* https://actionnetwork.org/event_campaigns/strike-at-att-mobility?source=DSA if only we were all one big union
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Effective leftism ho! I worked on the Tommy Pope campaign for the primary in South Carolina's special election. TP was a moderate as far as republicans went. I'm practical and only volunteered because my district doesn't vote democrat enough to matter. Sadly he seems to have lost and unless he somehow finds a few hundred votes in his back pocket the primary has been won by Ralph Norman who is a full throated Trump supporter. So now unable to help moderate the election I've switched to Archie Parnell's side. Sadly the name recognition isn't there, but since RN is a full throated Trump supporter he'll probably suffer. Mulvaney won this district by 20 points but Trump being a fuckup and the election being just less than a month away gives me a sliver of hope that it's doable. Especially since Newt Gingrich's old district wasn't the 35 point blowout it normally is but was only won by single digits. So I'll be knocking on doors in the evenings and this coming weekend. Maybe make some magic happen. I'm walking anyway to lose weight. Might as well lose weight while talking to voters.
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Ice Phisherman posted:So I'll be knocking on doors in the evenings and this coming weekend. Maybe make some magic happen. I'm walking anyway to lose weight. Might as well lose weight while talking to voters. Good luck, dude. This is correct action.
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