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Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

hey girl you up posted:

Ringabel and Alternis are twins. After their home town was invaded, Ringabel escaped to join the Crystal Orthodoxy Resistance, but Alternis fled with his mom to badguyville, changed his name, and eventually rose up the ranks to get the Dark Knight asterisk and run things. Victor/Victoria still haven't seen Alternis out of his armor, which will be convenient when he takes it off to frame Ringabel for regicide.

But Alternis didn't kill Tiz's brother. :v:

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Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.
Fun Shoe
I love D's Journal as a plot device. Yes, it is "spoilery," but it manages to avoid giving away how or why anything happens, which means every time something happens you're all "Oh, that's how that went."

Folt The Bolt
Feb 21, 2012

Nothing exciting to see here. Move along.

Patter Song posted:

I love D's Journal as a plot device. Yes, it is "spoilery," but it manages to avoid giving away how or why anything happens, which means every time something happens you're all "Oh, that's how that went."

Agreed. It's great! I sifted through all the pages when I first got it which made certain parts of the game quite interesting when I got there.

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




the first time I played the game I didn't really pay attention to D's Journal. I read everything in there, sure, but I didn't really pay attention as the game went on so certain things like Agnes rallying the people of Anchiem didn't really hit me as a "oh, this was kind of already said would happen because of the Journal".

Then again when it comes to reading things inside of a game, codices and such, I don't seem to digest that information as I do when it comes to reading actual reading material that comes with a game, manuals and stuff.

Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.
Fun Shoe
One thing this game does well is establishing that the Eternians are colossal pricks so you don't feel bad about straight-up murdering people for their asterisks.


Commander Keene posted:


To be fair, it could be assumed that the asterisks, or at least the ones the party gets, are all of jobs that are conducive to murderizing things. Yes, even the Merchant is more of an arms merchant or dealer of death than a captain of commerce. It could be assumed that ordinary merchants don't really know how to fling money with enough force to break the skin or force snakes to buy recovery items from the very same people who made them need it. They may not even have the actual Merchant job as the game defines it. Also, considering that Haste messes with your personal time relative to the world, spending a lot of time under the effects of that spell could have nasty side effects, like growing old at an accelerated rate. In 1st and 2nd Edition D&D, for example, every casting of Haste aged every target of the spell five years, IIRC.

Really, I'm just glad that we don't have the old man whose life's dream is to find the Bunny Girl asterisk, as is the running joke in the Dragon Quest games with job systems.

"Can I help you?"
"Hi, I'm here about the job?"
"Well met, challenger, but I, Dusty Sweeper, holder of the Night Shift Janitor Asterisk, will not go down easily! En garde!"
The world fades to a big blue void and That Person's Name Is starts blaring
"But...But...I wanted to work the Day Shift!"

Epsilon Moonshade
Nov 22, 2016

Not an excellent host.

Greyarc posted:

Going by her voice, Agnès has clearly started crying. Game's still playing cheery fun music. Someone being pressured into sex-related stuff they're not comfortable with! Ha ha...

Rangpur posted:

Ah, Florem. Quite possibly the most outrageously hosed up chapter in the game, for all sorts of reasons. Although "Agnes wore sexy clothes, and it was awesome" is pretty funny, both for the delivery and Tiz's reaction. Poor boy's so panicked at the idea it doesn't even cross his mind it was obvious bullshit to everyone. It's sort of sweet. Pity hearing Agnes so close to tears rather deflates the humor. Makes me wonder how if it was intentional--flustered Agnes and verge-of-tears Agnes sounds kinda similar.

Sorry I'm a bit late for replying to this one, but:

This scene read WAY differently to me when I first played it, because I had voice acting turned off. As Rangpur mentioned, I was thinking flustered Agnes. The whole scene reminded me of friends of mine who we'd occasionally tease like this because their reactions were hilarious.

As such, this isn't what I was thinking of for "most uncomfortable scene in the game" - for me, at least in my memory, that title is held by another one that's coming up with one of the sidequests.

Of course, recently playing through the game with voice acting changed my opinion of this scene from "hey, I can totally see this being me and friends" to "Jesus loving christ dude - you should have dialed it back about 5 minutes ago. What the hell, are you not paying attention?" I see now why everyone thought it was extra-cringey rather than the normal Ringabel-ness.

Omobono posted:

Incidentally, in a game where two party members are called "this warrior" and "idealist" I feel fairly safe saying that the guy called "alternate" is somebody's alternate.

Speaking of puns... Victor and Victoria have punny names of course, but we lack a couple of pieces of information to figure out why they're puns. We'll have to wait to figure those out for... two more chapters, I think? We'll see when Greyarc busts out the character pages. I'm pretty sure that one specific element doesn't come up in them until later.

(If you're playing along, yes - the character pages get more and more info added to them as the story progresses!)

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
I imagine Victoria just copied somebody she killed? She looks a little mimicy, and that's always a job in one of these things.

Omobono
Feb 19, 2013

That's it! No more hiding in tomato crates! It's time to show that idiota Germany how a real nation fights!

For pasta~! CHARGE!

Freelancer has Mimic this time around though, so I really doubt we'll get a dedicated Mime class asterisk.

As for puns, I'm drawing a blank on Victoria but Victor is quite the stereotypical doctor's name and the dude at least looks the part.

Epsilon Moonshade
Nov 22, 2016

Not an excellent host.

Omobono posted:

As for puns, I'm drawing a blank on Victoria but Victor is quite the stereotypical doctor's name and the dude at least looks the part.

It's their full names and some backstory that make the puns.

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




I mean there is always just the straight up Victor/Victoria thing

Blademaster_Aio
Jan 22, 2017

The way the art style of this game is, and considering Victoria is on the council of six, I honestly did not realise she looked like a little girl till that Florem npc commented on her.

I mean, she's floating in the air. She looks like some strange creature rather than a little girl. I think it's her hair. It's looks larger than her body. Along with that head piece she wears.

Eruza
Sep 4, 2011

Blademaster_Aio posted:

The way the art style of this game is, and considering Victoria is on the council of six, I honestly did not realise she looked like a little girl till that Florem npc commented on her.

I mean, she's floating in the air. She looks like some strange creature rather than a little girl. I think it's her hair. It's looks larger than her body. Along with that head piece she wears.

It's funny you say that because for me it was kind of the opposite. I first noticed she was basically a kid floating in the air for some reason, and her voice actress made her sound as childish as she looks so that just cemented it for me. Then I paid more attention to her outfit and thought she sort of looked like a fox or something. Once I saw her just kill that woman in Florem it made me wonder what's going on with the Council of Six that some murderous kid's allowed to be a member. Sure she's strong, but she's not disciplined at all.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
To be fair, the same could be said for a good number of the Eternian Forces that we've seen.

So, really, she's got advanced development for her age!

Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.
Fun Shoe

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

To be fair, the same could be said for a good number of the Eternian Forces that we've seen.

So, really, she's got advanced development for her age!

Strong, but not disciplined at all sounds perfect for Ominas Crowe.

Well, except for the "strong" part.

Greyarc
Dec 29, 2016

Entry 34: Gotta Have Blue Hair

In addition to the two sidequests opened earlier, one more opened after the Flower Festival. Starting in this chapter, there's a lot more cutscene variance depending on what side quests are done in what order. Alternate versions will be shown off when appropriate.



Maybe the woman who sells it will come today. Maybe today...

What caused the shift in Florem's populace from devout Crystalists to all-consuming obsession with physical beauty? Is there more to this town than a ham-handed attempt to critique modern feminism?



Earlier, the party found out there were two major trends in Florem: hairpins and hair dye. Neither is stocked by the normal traders. Maybe we should check out these mystery sellers, see just how good their products are.



The hunger-weakened lady was right. The merchant's shown up at the entrance of town.



Today only, make it yours for just one million pg!



But people are buying it. Have a look at that crowd.

How are these women affording that? Wasn't Florem supposed to be poor until recently? Judging by the giant naked bunny statue, the most likely answer would make this place even more screwed up.

Why not give it a try, Agnès? It's your chance to kick that plain-Jane image for good.



And that's even if the party could remotely afford it. Ringabel's been patron saint of not-helping-the-situation this chapter.

Hey, wait -- that starving lady from earlier was in the crowd at some point. Did she get her dye?



At least she's peppier now.

It brings color to the world around you, my dear. Perhaps you'll bring some to my world next...

Can't waste any time. Can't stop till I'm in fashion. Need a spirit hairpin... I need money...



Can't blame her for ignoring that tired pickup line, but something about her seemed... off.



Did she seem a little...crazed?

Seems fashionability is status here. We'll start our trend research at the trader's.

Why? What possible need have you to research the trends?

What sort of escort would I be to the ladies here if I were not abreast of their concerns?

......



The trader didn't know much about spirit hairpins when the party asked, but she might have a lead on petalhue.



The girls of Florem revere it as a part of the new holy trinity of fashion.

I'm guessing the third item is Yulyana's dresses.

Trouble is--and this is only a rumor--they say if you use it, it takes hold of you. Eats your soul!

Oh.



The traveling merchant? I hear they come in from the east.



When the petalhue vendors leave town later that day, the party follows.



They head east of Florem, north around the mountains, then east again through the forests...



Ringabel, Tiz, you guys might want to work on your stealth skills. At least take off the hat, or you'll get cau--



We're not following anyone. We're just headed east to the woods!

Liar! You're out to spy on how the dye's made. Planning to cut in on my margin!?

We were entranced, you see. The dye's beauty stole my breath away.



Despite his terrible pickup lines, Ringabel does have luck with some ladies. Evidence throughout the game points to him being a fairly handsome guy.

The name's Ringabel. If you've the time, I'd love to get to know you and your product...much...better.

Well, I...I really shouldn't. It's a secret. But maybe, if you promise not to tell... It's extracted from the marrow of giant snakes. Orochi, they're called. The girls of Florem worship them as gods, yet they're too busy playing dress-up to notice.

Orochi, by the way, was a multi-headed dragon from Japanese myth.

The vain little monsters... Still, my organization appreciates their cooperation. That's our plan, see. The extract's full of nidaphyx. It's an addictive hallucinogen.

And they're scratching and clawing to get their hands on it. Heh, Florem won't last a month. Oh, but I really must be going. Can't keep Artemia waiting!



So, the odd, self-destructive behavior in Florem isn't natural.



What? Who are you? Ringabel's girlfriend!? Oh, you cad! You led me on!

An Eternian soldier runs up alongside the dye seller.



One retching later:



In battle, the dye vendor is also revealed to be part of Eternia's Bloodrose Legion. Like the other common Eternian soldiers, they're not difficult to take out.





Ringabel: part-time fashion commentator.




The trail the Bloodrose Legion were taking leads back to a giant tree grove in the northeastern section of the continent. We were here earlier, before entering Florem.



These creatures are revered as Florem's guardians, and now... The forest stands at the edge of death. Who would do this?



The party looks up.



This kid (17 here, aged up from 14 in the original Japanese version) was seen in a cutscene at the start of the chapter, alongside the Eternians.



Edea traitor. Traitors die.

She does not sound sane.

Was it you who killed the orochi? To make the dye?

Artemia hunt. Hunt many orochi.

And now you're poisoning human bodies and minds with the results. Has the Bloodrose Legion's purpose always been so pathetically base?

Artemia obey. Only obey. Sister's orders only truth.

Sister...? You mean Einheria is complicit in this madness!?

That's not... She's a better woman than that! A noble woman!

Not for you to decide. Sister not your possession.

I never said she was!

I asked you whether Einheria truly ordered you to do this! And if she did, why did you just mindlessly obey!? If she came to me so obviously not herself, I'd have stopped her. By force, if needed!

You're her sister! You must have had the chance to dissuade her!



Artemia not tell Sister how to think. How Sister think tell how Artemia live. Only Sister tell how Artemia live!

That's no answer... You've just given up all thought! Become a puppet! Do you have any idea how many people are suffering for what you've done!?

Don't care. Edea still tell Sister how to live?

If what you've said is true, you and she and the whole legion are black as pitch.



......Artemia hunt. Hunt all prey... All in range Artemia's prey...

Don't change the subject!

Artemia jumps down, landing in front of the party.



She's sounding less sane by the second.

As long as prey has pulse... Keep firing... Never miss... ...Never...

Have you gone mad!?

If the nidaphyx was so effective on adults, what would it do to a child exposed over an extended period?



And who knew going super saiyan would be a byproduct?



Grrrrrrarar... You... Edea...prey...

What!?

Prey...chase...hunt... Artemia...run...catch... Thrill...hunger...rrrrar... Heart...racing...fire...burn...! Hands...! Trembling...! Hunt...is...on!



Congratulations, game. We've progressed to beating up mentally impaired children.



Granted, this girl's trying to kill us.



And doing a pretty good job of it. Her Multiburst attack hits the entire party for a generous amount.

She comes with a Legion Impaler and Mage which should be gotten out of the way first. Otherwise, there's not much strategy to this battle.



Ringabel's been leveling White Mage behind the scenes. Higher level spells from Florem make the fight easier.



After a brief but intense fight, Artemia's brought down.



Sister...



Morals aside -- we got a new job!



Agnès also stole these.



I know when I think feral, I think purple long-tailed bunny.

The party returns to Florem, none too happy, to alert the ethical item merchant.



I'll work to spread the word. With luck, this lunacy will cease soon...

With that sorted out, the party takes a look at the equipment used by the new job.



That's right. First time using one, Agnès?

Yes. I have heard about them, but never had a chance to actually lay hands upon one. Would it be alright if I gave it a try over there?

Agnès runs off.



Mm-hm, it has a major effect on your attack power, too.

The knight's weapon of choice is the sword! The white mage's, a staff! And the black mage's, a rod!

Ah! Agnès is back! What did you think of the bow?



It seems to me I could do better with my bare hands.

That doesn't make any sense. The bow is a powerful weapon, after all.

I know! Show her by loosing an arrow at that fence over there.

Alright, here goes!

......! Bull's-eye!

What was that stick-like object that flew from the bow?

And what is an arrow...?

Eh? You're kidding...right?

That cutscene would make much more sense if I hadn't had Agnès using a bow the entire chapter so far. Though it does make her pulverizing enemies in battle with it all the more impressive. Still, perhaps it'd be best if Ringabel took on the job.

And that wraps up one sidequest. There is a slight variation to this quest depending on whether Twisted Treetop was visited earlier or not. Here's the version if the party had not visited Twisted Treetop earlier:

Party walks in, area title displays.

Ugh, the whole forest reeks of death...



There are more that way, hung over tree branches. And over there... The sheer number of bodies is mind-boggling.

From there, Agnès says her line, Artemia speaks up, and things continue as before.

The mystery of petalhue has been solved, but Florem's problems are far from over. The party now knows Eternia's Bloodrose Legion is actively sabotaging the population, and Artemia was not likely working alone.


Next: A grim meeting between sisters.

--

Event Viewer
Sub-Scenario:
In Search of Petalhue
Lust for Beauty
A Devourer of Souls
The Merchant Unmasked
Fallen Guardians - B
Ranger Artemia
Petalhue's Secret
Fallen Guardians - A

Party Chat:
Her First Bow


D's Journal: Artemia the Ranger posted:



pg.2: A seventeen-year-old girl from Eternia. Her name is Artemia Venus, holder of the ranger asterisk. She is the youngest of the Venus sisters, and worships her eldest sister to the point of neglecting all other relationships.
--------------------------------
Likes: Einheria, worthy prey
Dislikes: Conversation, relationships, weak foes

pg.3: In the woods to the east, we encountered Artemia standing before the remains of massive orochi, which had been hung from tree branches. On her sister's orders, and to satisfy her thirst for the hunt, she was slaying woodland orochi with wanton disregard. It seems she and Edea know each other, but they could not see eye to eye. In the end we had to fight her off.

D's Journal: Twisted Treetop posted:


cont: with an unbearably putrid stench in the air.

Greyarc fucked around with this message at 05:03 on May 9, 2017

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST
Strap in boys.

You thought Florem was hosed up? We haven't seen nothing yet.

Oberndorf
Oct 20, 2010



I've always thought of Florem as a critique of the fashion/cosmetic industry, with the killing of Orochi being akin to animal testing, and the hypnosis of the populace being a stand-in for advertising and magazine pictorials. Our girl starving herself for hair dye has body image issues caused by women's magazines and Cover Girl ads.

In other words, more a critique of mindless consumerism and media manipulation of popular tastes moving us from good, old-fashioned Japanese values into modern hedonism.

Blademaster_Aio
Jan 22, 2017

The ranger job. I really love the class skills and the fact I use a bow and stuff...

But the outfits are pretty strange. The cutscenes look incredibly odd with them. I think this was my main motivation to grab the freelancer outfits from Norende shops.

Patter Song
Mar 26, 2010

Hereby it is manifest that during the time men live without a common power to keep them all in awe, they are in that condition which is called war; and such a war as is of every man against every man.
Fun Shoe

Blademaster_Aio posted:

The ranger job. I really love the class skills and the fact I use a bow and stuff...

But the outfits are pretty strange. The cutscenes look incredibly odd with them. I think this was my main motivation to grab the freelancer outfits from Norende shops.

Having your party look incredibly goofy in cutscenes is one of the best parts of this game and its sequel. Riveting drama and horrifying revelations emoted by people dressed in animal skins and top hats is the only way to go.

And yeah, Florem is messed up, but, again, I think it's messed up in a well-done way. You're clearly supposed to think that this city is completely hosed.

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




Ranger is a pretty amazing job and for the next 2 chapters after I got it Edea and Tiz were both inappropriately dressed for every cutscene.

It was pretty great

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
I had Edea as a Ranger for a pretty good while.

Also, Artemia is adorable and one of my favorite characters in the game. :3:

Rangpur
Dec 31, 2008

Examine turns out to be a real helpful skill here, because you can keep track of Artemia's HP. Once it gets near the point where she'll start spamming Multiburst, you can Default until everyone has 3 BP saved up and rush her down before it kills you. It also clues you in to the fire-vulnerability, which you might not expect--most Asterisk holders don't have elemental weaknesses. Note that fire is traditionally the elemental weakness of Beast-type enemies in this series. Gives you an idea of just how far gone Artemia is by this point.

Anyway, I partially lied before. A Thief with a bow is a great source of damage... but Ranger is even better. The skill sets compliment each other nicely, too. Sword Mage is another good secondary, since it turns out their ability works with every weapon. You can do disgusting things when you combine elemental and species weaknesses.

Blademaster_Aio
Jan 22, 2017

Rangpur posted:

Anyway, I partially lied before. A Thief with a bow is a great source of damage... but Ranger is even better. The skill sets compliment each other nicely, too. Sword Mage is another good secondary, since it turns out their ability works with every weapon. You can do disgusting things when you combine elemental and species weaknesses.

Ranger-Spell fencer is an awesome combo :D

Also, again, they aged up Artemia, but come on, there is no way she's 17. She's a kid.

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




if she was supposed to be 14 is that supposed to be commentary on the kingdom radicalizing children? Or just more weird Japanese youth worship?

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

Aces High posted:

if she was supposed to be 14 is that supposed to be commentary on the kingdom radicalizing children? Or just more weird Japanese youth worship?

No I think she was just feral from being exposed to tons of poison.

EponymousMrYar
Jan 4, 2015

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.

Oberndorf posted:

I've always thought of Florem as a critique of the fashion/cosmetic industry, with the killing of Orochi being akin to animal testing, and the hypnosis of the populace being a stand-in for advertising and magazine pictorials. Our girl starving herself for hair dye has body image issues caused by women's magazines and Cover Girl ads.

In other words, more a critique of mindless consumerism and media manipulation of popular tastes moving us from good, old-fashioned Japanese values into modern hedonism.

I'd say the animal thing is more 'taking questionable materials from sources via unsustainable means.'

Since the poison is used for the hair dye.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
Oh, belatedly, in case you didn't notice the game's love of puns yet, the addictive hair-dye is made of "need a fix".

Rangpur
Dec 31, 2008

Blademaster_Aio posted:

Also, again, they aged up Artemia, but come on, there is no way she's 17. She's a kid.
It's a curious decision, one I wasn't aware of before now. I mean, you've all seen Artemia in action, and oh look now she's dead. She doesn't really have time to do anything controversial. Although I guess you did just attack someone having a bad trip, and murder them in cold blood. Not sure the 3 year difference does much to blunt the impact there. :v:

Epsilon Moonshade
Nov 22, 2016

Not an excellent host.

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

Oh, belatedly, in case you didn't notice the game's love of puns yet, the addictive hair-dye is made of "need a fix".

Goddammit. I totally missed that one. :doh:

Blademaster_Aio posted:

Also, again, they aged up Artemia, but come on, there is no way she's 17. She's a kid.

Yeah. The main party? I'd believe an immature and/or inexperienced 19-20 across the board for them. Artemia? Not a chance she's 17, and I'd have said younger than 14.

Silegna
Aug 20, 2013

Hey, heads up. I'm about to unleash my rage.

Oh man, Florem. This is where the game just pulls out all the stops to show how evil the Eternian Forces are. On the topic of Ringabel bring skeezy, trust me, thats not the worst offense Florem has to the game.

Commander Keene
Dec 21, 2016

Faster than the others



Patter Song posted:

Having your party look incredibly goofy in cutscenes is one of the best parts of this game and its sequel. Riveting drama and horrifying revelations emoted by people dressed in animal skins and top hats is the only way to go.

And yeah, Florem is messed up, but, again, I think it's messed up in a well-done way. You're clearly supposed to think that this city is completely hosed.
One of the reasons I like games that show your party's armor and weapons on the model (or allow model/costume changes like this game) is seeing how goofy-looking I can get the main characters. I've got a New Game Plus idea for Xenoblade Chronicles where everyone wears swimsuits all the time. That may take a while, though, seeing as I don't even think I'm halfway through the game right now.

Rangpur posted:

It's a curious decision, one I wasn't aware of before now. I mean, you've all seen Artemia in action, and oh look now she's dead. She doesn't really have time to do anything controversial. Although I guess you did just attack someone having a bad trip, and murder them in cold blood. Not sure the 3 year difference does much to blunt the impact there. :v:
Yeah, it's probably the fact that you are perpetrating violence on a child that caused that particular age-up.

Epsilon Moonshade posted:

Goddammit. I totally missed that one. :doh:
I might not have gotten that one either if it had been just text, but the scene is helpfully voice-acted and doesn't allow you to miss the joke.

Greyarc
Dec 29, 2016

Entry 35: The Other Hidden Village



Here's a look at Norende's progress so far. As areas are upgraded, houses, windmills, and factories appear. It's a cute little touch.

The party, in the meantime, has been searching for a lead to the Bloodrose Legion's activities.



That lady's sure running fast. Not even watching where she's goin--



*crash*



Tiz does a fantastic pinwheeling arms animation here, but it doesn't translate well into a gif. :(



The stranger backs away, not even responding, then takes off for the entrance of town.





As the others look after the woman, Agnès notices something on the ground.



Looks like they dropped something.

Let's have a look.

Ringabel yoinks it out of Agnès's hand.



No, I ought've. And good thing I did.

Why, what does it say?

"Rose to strike northern hideaway. Warn them to flee at once."



Rose... The Bloodrose Legion!

Let's hurry north. To the hidden village!

Note: this hidden village is not the same one Olivia the water vestal is hiding out in. The Florem region is just littered with secret villages and old ruins.

Also, I agree with folks that the ranger costumes are funny, but they're terrible for showing character animations. Later on I'll be switching Ringabel out of ranger for cutscenes.



This next location is the upper right blue icon, along the way to Twisted Treetop.



The area around here looks unhealthy. Is this what the Matriarch meant by lands turned to waste? Why is it only bad over in the eastern section? (we'll get an answer later.)



Being a hidden village, it's tucked past a maze of a forest.



While the previous sidequest was available before the Flower Festival, This sidequest only became available afterwards. As such, it's a higher level of difficulty.



Still, nothing we can't handle. First enemy of the region.



...We're not handling it. That thing is one-shotting people.



Time for another grinding session.



Norende gifted this in the meantime. Even the database entry is confused by this one.



A short time later, the party returns to the forest newly buff and ready to take names. At least, Ringabel was trying to get a name. Stop trying to hit on the enemies, Ringabel.



Genetically modified dragons. The Eternians may be evil, but they're got style.



Although the party's current setup has no dedicated healer, they are now deadly enough to not need one. I never did get a chance to see this enemy attack.



These guys are the only ones fast enough to get a hit in before Agnès (using iron pole w/two-hands and stave proficiency) and Ringabel decimate everything.



The party should be levelled enough for the rest of the chapter.



Taking the upper right path...



Leads to a dead end with an upgrade for Tiz. Tiz will send enemies to sleep, all right. Forever.



Backtracking and taking the upper left path leads further in, with this along the way.



The word aeolian refers to Aeolus, a Greek god who ruled the winds.



Witherwood isn't a huge place. We're already over halfway through.



The design of this dungeon is similar to the eastern East Shroud area in Final Fantasy 14. CrashScreen's actually currently in the adjacent area in their LP at the time of this post if you want to see what I imagine a higher-res Florem region looks like.




A short stroll later and we've found the Adventurer. Meaning that beyond is...




Crystalists. That is some stark landscape change in the background.



Is something wrong?

Gather your families and run! This place will soon be attacked!

What!? No way!

It's the truth! Now hurry!



This is no time to be laughing!

But it's too funny! How could you fall for it so easily?

Uh-oh.



Hurry, girls! Send word to the valkyrie!

The party is surrounded. In a short time:



In the party's defense, most Eternians so far have treated strategy like a foreign concept.

What's become of the people of this village!? You didn't--

Gone, and not by my hand. This place was deserted. Though I cannot say whether the original inhabitants left alive or dead.

......

Agnès Oblige, Vestal of Wind, you will come with me.

We won't let that happen.

Einheria...

Do not resist. Running is futile as well. You're perfectly surrounded.



You've not been given leave to speak, Edea.



Why are you doing this? This isn't--

I've warned you not to speak!

I'm afraid I cannot keep silent. Agnès is my friend.

......



Alternis begged me to talk sense into you. He was beside himself.

He's not... Alternis has nothing to do with this.

You and I learned the sword under the same master. We shared a vision. A dream. We swore our blades to the service of Eternia, and pledged to fight for her future.

......

Yet here you stand, a traitor.

I had to...

To free mankind from thralldom before the crystals. To create a new world where all can live in peace! These are the tenets of the grand marshal's philosophy.

The same that you denied when you betrayed your homeland and spat in the face of your father!



We don't know too much about the state of the world before Eternia started taking over. It's a given Agnès has a rose-colored view of the Crystal Orthodoxy, but going by real world large-scale organized religions and hints in-game so far, the Orthodoxy was likely not all rainbows and sunshine. Don't worry, the game will cover it more later on.



But no longer. I've seen the world with my own eyes. Judged right from wrong for myself. And now I can say with all confidence, you are wrong. All of you.



You burn cities down. Bleed people dry for money! One atrocity after another...

You mean to deny your own father? Just like that!?

...Yes. I don't understand what he's thinking. I can't accept it.

What have you been looking at this whole time? The vestal's illusions!?

I know what I've seen. I'll let no one deny it. Not even you.

...This is my final warning. Return to your father's side, Edea.

I cannot. I won't! I can never go back to the Eternian Forces.

......

The grand marshal's orders were... to eliminate any obstacle.

Father...!



I'll not hold back. Your treason ends now!



That's a shame. Unlike most other Eternians we've met, Einheria seemed reasonable, but whatever propoganda they get in Eternia is just too effective.



Unlike Artemia, Einheria is a single opponent. She does not need help because she is significantly stronger, especially with use of the multi-target attack Crescent Moon. With the party's minimal healing, keeping track of both her and the party's BP is a must to know when to attack and when to Default.



Valkyries are Bravely Default's Dragoons. This includes their signature ability Jump, where the user jumps off the battlefield, then reappears with a large attack on a single opponent. The party's kept ready to Default whenever Einheria jumps.



With high physical attack, Agnès can more than take care of healing herself with Life Thief.



Partway through the fight, Einheria puts up Spirit Barrier, which redirects damage to her MP instead of HP until either her MP hits zero or ten turns pass.



It only delays the inevitable.


Next: A fun-filled faerie adventure! Also, death.

--

Event Viewer
Sub-Scenario:
A Preventable Tragedy
At the Hidden Village
Einheria Appears
Cheerless Reunion - A/B
Valkyrie Einheria - A


D's Journal: Witherwood posted:



Greyarc fucked around with this message at 02:30 on May 11, 2017

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry
Man, now I'm worrying. Are we the only ones who saw that entire city set on fire? Like, is all this death and misery just the act of a demon who's deceiving us and we don't know we're being deceived?

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
Einheria is pretty great and one of the least "Rawr murder" of the Eternians.

Naturally, the Valkyrie job class is a stand in for the Dragoon. Makes me wonder why she bothered learning swordplay from Kamiizumi (yes, we've heard his name already) given she's a spear user, though.

Blueberry Pancakes fucked around with this message at 05:34 on May 11, 2017

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST
I love how the Valkyrie literally has spears built into her skirt.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

Pureauthor posted:

I love how the Valkyrie literally has spears built into her skirt.

It's apparently to make the Jumps more dangerous when she lands and incase the initial spear strike misses.

I am a bit surprised you are doing Einheria before her other sister.

Greyarc
Dec 29, 2016

MonsterEnvy posted:

I am a bit surprised you are doing Einheria before her other sister.

Hey, we're not there quite yet, even if it is pretty obvious. :ssh:

I did this order to not duplicate cutscenes I got during my first game. Like I said, I'll be showing off the variations later, so no worries about that.

Greyarc
Dec 29, 2016

Entry 36: Silent Gardens



Einheria, Valkyrie of Eternia's Bloodrose Legion and surrogate sister to Edea, lies defeated.



Einheria!

Why...do you weep? You've bested me. Be proud...

I never wanted...

Edea... Hear me now. My final...request... Meet with him. With your father... Face to face. No more intermediaries... Look at him...

Look at him, and you'll see it... What he seeks... I know...



Good. That's good...



.......



Thanks to the party's earlier efforts, the sister who came to guide Einheria was Artemia. At least Einheria went out at peace.

In the meantime, what happened to Einheria's soldiers? There were strong enough to hold the party hostage until their leader's arrival, then they all conveniently vanished. I guess their strategic trap only extended as far as nabbing the party, and now they're all sitting in a corner waiting for further orders. That holds with the level of competence Eternia's shown so far.



Gently, Edea takes Einheria's halberd, vowing to honor her friend's final wish.



Tiz breezes past her to grab the asterisk off the body, holding it above his head and basking in the glory of his enemy's defeat.



Agnès also stole this during the battle. A straightforward strength upgrade is always appreciated.

The party returns to Florem considerably more glum. The Eternians fought in Florem so far have been much less satisfying to beat up than, say, Profiteur and Khamer. After a rest at the inn, the party goes to the armory to look for upgrades.

The moment they step into the shop, the clerk approaches them.



I'd like your help searching for two girls. Sisters, and still just children. They were seen heading for the gardens at the city's west, but haven't returned.

It's my own fault. They came in asking after spirit hairpins...



Part of what the girls are calling the holy trinity of fashion. Incredibly expensive, though.

Sounds familiar.

Anyway, I don't stock them here, but I told them they might find some in the gardens. The gardens are a dangerous place for children, you see. I'd hoped to scare them off the idea.

I was a fool to assume. If you find them, please, bring them home.





For whatever reason, Ringabel takes this job upon himself.



Before setting out, the party buys the last item from the armory. Bet these haven't been selling well lately.




The area northwest of Florem is filled with flower fields. How cheery!



Eeeeeek!

Someone help!



That's right, we already found the kids. Bet you thought there'd be a dungeon involved or something. But who's attacking?



Oh look, free JP!



Defeat weakling plants, get hefty reward, save the day -- now this is brand of heroism is more like it.



I take it you two are the little ones here in search of spirit hairpins? This place ill suits a pair of fair flower nymphs like you. Come, let's go home.



If we don't keep up with the trend, they'll make fun of us!



And they're so beautiful you never ever want to take it off!

Thank you, but we're not giving up. Bye, mister!



Wait, we can't just let them--



...And off they go.

Ah... M...mister...?



They're preteens, at most. To them, everyone above the age of 13 is an old fogey.




More importantly, those kids are quicker than they look. The party chases them into the densest part of the flower fields.



Finally, they catch up.



Hopefully this time they do a better job of stopping the girls. This place looks dangerous.



Hush. We just have to find a Florie, and she'll give us hairpins.

Florie?

Our symbol. A spirit who tends the flowers and makes Florem prosper.

It has to be a Florie who makes the hairpins. That's why we've got to find one!



Okay guys, now's the time to drag them back, by force if necess--



...Or not.





Better chase after them before they trip and fall in a hole or whatever kids do.



Let's take a shortcut through that purple flower patch.





Everyone's silenced. That's right, time for another trap dungeon.



Spores erupted from that purple flower!

What? But it's so pretty!

Why would it look so nice, then spit poison at us!?

Pretty flowers and pretty women always have thorns.

That has nothing to do with anything!

And it's an insult to women!

Those spores... This is hushleaf.

Everybody, don't worry. This stuff isn't fatal. It prevents you from casting magic, but a dose of echo herbs will have you cured in no time.

It's a natural defense to keep animals from eating them. If we stay clear, we're safe.

Wow, you sure know a lot!

Oh sure, he gets praised... And what animals use magic to eat plants?

You guys encounter magic-using animals all the time, Ringabel. Don't blame Tiz for your poor taste in jokes. :colbert:

Incidentally, Tiz having botanical knowledge is a great character detail, and makes sense given his shepherding background.




First area. Both paths forward connect on the next screen.



There are no new enemies in Florem Gardens, and the party is completely overleveled, so this place won't take long.



Along the way, find a new axe. No one's proficient with that weapon type at the moment.




It's a nice change of pace to have a bright, colorful dungeon.



Fog can't hide the edge of the map over there. Immersion broken.




What sort of trouble have those kids gotten into, now? Hopefully more alraunes.


Next: It's not alraunes.

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Event Viewer
Sub-Scenario:
Einheria's End - B
Searching for Sisters
A Garden of Dangers
Bye, Mister
Brave Little Ladies

Party Chat:
A Spore Loser


D's Journal: Edea Lee posted:

The hidden village of the Crystalists lay beyond the Witherwood in northern Florem. There, Edea confronted the valkyrie Einheria Venus of the Bloodrose Legion. It seems they trained together in their homeland, and were as sisters. But they could no longer see eye to eye, and their differences tore them apart.

D's Journal: Einheria the Valkyrie posted:



pg.2: A twenty-eight-year-old woman from Eternia. Her name is Einheria Venus, and she holds the valkyrie asterisk. She is a serious, dedicated warrior who believes in the ideals of Anticrystalism. She cares for her sisters deeply, and worries about them a great deal.
--------------------------------
Likes: Traditional warriors, collecting old maps
Dislikes: Compromise, snakes

pg.3: We headed to the hidden village to the north beyond the Witherwood after hearing of widespread suppression of Crystalists. There we were set upon by the valkyrie Einheria. She had lured us into a trap. It seems she and Edea were peers that once treated each other as sisters, but with their ideals now in conflict, battle ensued. She died in indignation...

D's Journal: Florem Gardens posted:

Florem Gardens: In western Florem, seasonal flowers bloom in profusion, as if each one were vying to outdo the other. The gardens can be reached by heading west from the Temple of Water, crossing the bridge, and then immediately heading north along the river.

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
I think Tiz enjoys bathing in the blood of his enemies a smidge too much.

Also, I really like all of the lore on the status effect causing hazards.

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Blind Duke
Nov 8, 2013
Forget the feral kid, Tiz is the real primal predator. Completely in tune with nature, both outside and inside of all animals

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