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Sorry if I wasn't clear. Sargon, a right wing idiot, posted a picture of YGP liberating a town from ISIS, and claimed that they were in fact ISIS themselves. He believed that this blatant lie was a strong case for why antifacism is worse than fascism.
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Terrible Opinions posted:Sorry if I wasn't clear. Sargon, a right wing idiot, posted a picture of YGP liberating a town from ISIS, and claimed that they were in fact ISIS themselves. He believed that this blatant lie was a strong case for why antifacism is worse than fascism. I'm not convinced Sargon was deliberately lying, he is incredibly stupid.
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May 8, 2017 05:00
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Doctor Spaceman posted:I'm not convinced Sargon was deliberately lying, he is incredibly stupid. Based on it being a quote of some other picture I'm sure he just saw it randomly come up in his feed and thought "brown people terrorists holding the antifa flag!!!" and mashed retweet as hard as he could e: Also the guy he's quoting drew the same conclusion and also seems to be a total idiot so I'm sure Sargon trusts him inherently
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May 8, 2017 05:54
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Why is Sargon flying a Black flag in his Twitter handle
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May 8, 2017 15:48
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Why is Sargon flying a Black flag in his Twitter handle Hes become the lamest pirate ever
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May 8, 2017 15:53
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Doctor Spaceman posted:I'm not convinced Sargon was deliberately lying, he is incredibly stupid. It is really hard to tell when he's being dense or willfully dense. Since a lot of his misdirection is omission, which could be him just not reading stuff like a lazy dumb rear end
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May 8, 2017 15:54
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:It is really hard to tell when he's being dense or willfully dense. Since a lot of his misdirection is omission, which could be him just not reading stuff like a lazy dumb rear end I mean judging by how hard that actual feminist scholar wiped the floor with him in that debate I tend to think that he legitimately does not actually inform himself on anything and probably just dunning-krugers his way to assuming he knows everything about it like most nerds. And I mean that works great for his core audience since they do the same thing, and what are they gonna do check facts? Psh
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May 8, 2017 16:10
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:It is really hard to tell when he's being dense or willfully dense. Since a lot of his misdirection is omission, which could be him just not reading stuff like a lazy dumb rear end So yeah, hes dense and very, very lazy, both intellectually and physically.
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May 8, 2017 16:19
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There's a reason why people use Sargons long as a measurement of 5 minutes of time.
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May 8, 2017 16:22
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Gorn Myson posted:He definitely does read books but you would never describe him as "well-read" or particularly intelligent. Hes the sort of person who would put up a 90 minute video about how leftism is actually fascism but he cribs all of his conclusions from Jonah Goldberg. Like when he said he over-prepared for that debate.
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May 8, 2017 16:27
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ate all the Oreos posted:I mean judging by how hard that actual feminist scholar wiped the floor with him in that debate I tend to think that he legitimately does not actually inform himself on anything and probably just dunning-krugers his way to assuming he knows everything about it like most nerds. This is really symptomatic of the entire alt-right. For a group that has such a massive boner for their own intellectual superiority, they steadfast refuse to do even entry level research. Which on of the reasons they always end up with the short stick when it comes to actual debate. I.e. Feminsim is a subject with decades of academic scrutiny and discussion behind it, which means that any dumb argument MRAs try to throw at it usually has been analyzed, discussed and refuted several times over. But its also why they love to hide behind a massive, anonymous collective and use primarily harassment tactics. If you know you would lose an actual debate, there is no point in engaging in one.
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May 8, 2017 17:12
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See: St_Rev's paranoia about smart people being memetically poisoned by the evil gramscian damage one gets from reading Immanuel Kant or (((cultural marxists))) or postmodernists and his own refusal to talk to someone who admits to having read any of that.
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May 8, 2017 17:20
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Avenging_Mikon posted:Like when he said he over-prepared for that debate. To be fair he probably read through some Wikipedia articles twice and maybe wrote down half a page of bullet points. Bein a self-taught thinker like Sargon takes a lot of effort.
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May 8, 2017 17:49
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I should watch that debate. The Shaun and Jen videos are really fun but it's hard to listen to the shitlords being roasted sometimes
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May 8, 2017 18:05
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Yeah Shaun and Jen has several videos demonstrating Sargon's inability to do even the most basic research or fact-checking before he blesses the rest of the internet with his reactions to current events. HBG, too. It's kind of dismaying that this guy is considered a smart guy with unassailable arguments by alt right dudes. Like, come the gently caress on.
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May 8, 2017 22:56
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There could be a selection bias at work: I personally think introspective and informed people would tend to stop believing the things sargon-et-al believe.
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May 9, 2017 03:49
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In one Shaun video he said Sargon tries to style himself as someone who takes the piss out of both sides' extremes and I was really surprised, it must be the worst effort possible. You only hear his name when extreme shitlords are the subject.
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May 9, 2017 05:47
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Doc Hawkins posted:There could be a selection bias at work: I personally think introspective and informed people would tend to stop believing the things sargon-et-al believe. It's more just the fact that there are so many people who lack said introspection and remain uninformed. It's like, "But why???"
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May 9, 2017 06:46
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I'm convinced that at least one repeating reason is they spent the first ~24 years of their life in a Default Liberal environment, and they didn't noticed how small it was before creating an identity of rebellion against it, and they're too invested to back off. This is what I thought about Moldbug years ago, I think before he got into the extra-obviously-awful stuff, and was just going on about how all school is a plot to make you compliant and we'd be better-off being ruled by a gold-loving alien tyrant, and what I think about Scott Whatsits too.
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Doc Hawkins posted:I'm convinced that at least one repeating reason is they spent the first ~24 years of their life in a Default Liberal environment, and they didn't noticed how small it was before creating an identity of rebellion against it, and they're too invested to back off. This is what I thought about Moldbug years ago, I think before he got into the extra-obviously-awful stuff, and was just going on about how all school is a plot to make you compliant and we'd be better-off being ruled by a gold-loving alien tyrant, and what I think about Scott Whatsits too. It also helps if you're kind of a narcissist and other people and their feelings and suffering aren't really very real to you.
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May 9, 2017 13:32
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:In one Shaun video he said Sargon tries to style himself as someone who takes the piss out of both sides' extremes and I was really surprised, it must be the worst effort possible. You only hear his name when extreme shitlords are the subject. I know a Milo fan IRL who says that both and Sargon are "centrists" because the political compass said so 
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:In one Shaun video he said Sargon tries to style himself as someone who takes the piss out of both sides' extremes and I was really surprised, it must be the worst effort possible. You only hear his name when extreme shitlords are the subject. 
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May 9, 2017 17:34
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MikeCrotch posted:I know a Milo fan IRL who says that both and Sargon are "centrists" because the political compass said so "I'm a rational centrist because I hate most Democrats and most Republicans(Or in his case, Tories and Labor)" Is what nearly everyone with an opinion on politics says, even me, this motherfucker right here who will vote straight D his entire life (barring a seismic shift in the current political landscape) What makes Sargon's lack of self-awareness hilarious to mine is the complete absence of effort on his end to think about what he believes in and why.
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May 9, 2017 19:01
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The Vosgian Beast posted:See: St_Rev's paranoia about smart people being memetically poisoned by the evil gramscian damage one gets from reading Immanuel Kant or (((cultural marxists))) or postmodernists and his own refusal to talk to someone who admits to having read any of that. Kant?????? Why the gently caress would that be a bad thing, he's only of the most important and innovative philosophers this side of 1000AD! Hegel I'd understand, simply because so many of his hated prog-thinkers owe a huge debt to him, but Kant?!?!?
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oscarthewilde posted:Kant?????? Why the gently caress would that be a bad thing, he's only of the most important and innovative philosophers this side of 1000AD! Hegel I'd understand, simply because so many of his hated prog-thinkers owe a huge debt to him, but Kant?!?!? The alt-right has a weird hateboner for kant lately and i have no idea why, i've encountered it elsewhere too.
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May 9, 2017 20:05
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oscarthewilde posted:Kant?????? Why the gently caress would that be a bad thing, he's only of the most important and innovative philosophers this side of 1000AD! Hegel I'd understand, simply because so many of his hated prog-thinkers owe a huge debt to him, but Kant?!?!? He has this lifelong passionate hatred that apparently boils down to A: He was hard to read B: He had some antiquated ideas about geometry, John "White supremacy, in the sense of a society in which key decisions are made by white Europeans, is one of the better arrangements History has come up with. " Derbyshire wrote a book about how he totally held math back, and St_Rev values the opinions of John "Too racist for the National Review" Derbyshire C. Probably some cross-contamination from Objectivists, who hate Kant because Ayn Rand did. D. Kant was responding to David Hume, and Rev loves Hume(NOTE: Both Hume and Kant were huge racists, being white dudes from several hundred years ago, so this bit doesn't seem to be influenced by his politics) https://twitter.com/St_Rev/status/819300394937552896
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The Vosgian Beast posted:C. Probably some cross-contamination from Objectivists, who hate Kant because Ayn Rand did.
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Kant is not that bad, but Hume is way better.  And today is his birthday! To celebrate, read a really short biography he wrote when he realized he was going to die. Relevant to DE-HBD-BBQ horseshit, it's also the birthday of John Brown! To celebrate, watch Johnny Cash play him pretty good in a show that was pretty bad.
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May 9, 2017 21:33
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He wrote a book called the "Critique of Pure Reason," which means he's a mindless emotional prog who opposes the Rational Thinkers of today.
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May 9, 2017 23:37
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Kant's ethics is legitimately terrible, though.
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May 9, 2017 23:46
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You got a link to the full article? That one's up there with the analysis of anti-Semite propaganda when it comes to explaining present day internet shitlords before they even existed.
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May 10, 2017 00:18
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Silver2195 posted:Kant's ethics is legitimately terrible, though. Depends on your definition of terrible, I guess. Pure deontology has fallen out of style, but his influence on, for example, deontological reflexive justifications and arguments for the existence of human rights has been incredible. Gewirth, for example, really has managed to take Kant and use him to provide some great arguments.
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May 10, 2017 00:21
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Rangpur posted:You got a link to the full article? That one's up there with the analysis of anti-Semite propaganda when it comes to explaining present day internet shitlords before they even existed. I got you, friend.
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oscarthewilde posted:Depends on your definition of terrible, I guess. Pure deontology has fallen out of style, but his influence on, for example, deontological reflexive justifications and arguments for the existence of human rights has been incredible. Gewirth, for example, really has managed to take Kant and use him to provide some great arguments. He doesn't have the first idea of what he's talking about here and is going off of youtube summary videos  Rangpur posted:You got a link to the full article? That one's up there with the analysis of anti-Semite propaganda when it comes to explaining present day internet shitlords before they even existed. https://harpers.org/archive/1941/08/who-goes-nazi/
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May 10, 2017 00:50
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Wasn't Kant considered something of a danger to traditional verities in his own time after publishing the Critiques? Despite arguably having the opposite intent. And he was a big fan of the Enlightenment. It doesn't surprise me that he's picked up by some reactos as a part of the Fall.
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May 10, 2017 01:04
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Is it just me or is this mostly poo poo you'd be expected to lick in your first year or two of undergrad?
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May 10, 2017 04:47
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http://alt-rightfactbase.blogspot.com/?m=1
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May 10, 2017 12:36
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Ha, I'm friends with a bunch of the people in the Slutwalk images on this site.
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May 10, 2017 13:15
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Nice superfluous menu, nerd!
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"DIE-versity" 
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