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I know about feinting, but the old popeye style of milling is definitely a lost art, or at least very out of style. e; content for new page: face-punchy chin training has the same name as how popeye fights. I literally view conor as popeye now. Chillanese fucked around with this message at 16:01 on May 7, 2017 |
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May 7, 2017 15:52
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Training your "chin" by getting punched is like training not to get knocked over by running in front of a car.
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May 7, 2017 16:35
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Tell that to all these para troopers who before this could only throw endless 1-2s when they weren't getting punched in the face at the same time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezcn_eSMLbg
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May 7, 2017 16:44
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You can't train your chin. Milling is used by the paras to train aggression under duress (they get penalised for acting defensively), and "build character". It's not a martial art, it's a hazing.
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May 7, 2017 17:10
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You can train not being a big time wuss.
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May 7, 2017 17:18
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There are ways to do that without getting a concussion, it's called a panic drill. I used to train at an ABA club in a shithole seaside town, it wasn't exactly a ballet school. I'd walk out of any place that did "milling" laughing my rear end off, it's loving retarded.
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May 7, 2017 17:31
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I personally expect the Korean woman to be Built Army Tough when she gets in the cage.
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May 7, 2017 17:35
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tooterfish posted:There are ways to do that without getting a concussion, it's called a panic drill. It seems that you have gotten conversations melded and have confused milling (feinting/adjusting your guard) with letting someone punch you david carmichael fucked around with this message at 18:10 on May 7, 2017 |
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May 7, 2017 18:07
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Filipino boxing, karate, non-filipino boxing etc. all make use of milling. Anderson Silva doing a lot of it against bisping is the most vivid example in my memory
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May 7, 2017 18:12
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As does Tag and Blind Man's Bluff
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May 7, 2017 18:22
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david carmichael posted:It seems that you have gotten conversations melded and have confused milling (feinting with your hands) with letting someone punch you
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May 7, 2017 18:28
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tooterfish posted:milling (as in "letting someone punch you") was brought up first. I've never heard of it being used in that context and because it is extremely stupid I will continue to ignore it.
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May 7, 2017 19:12
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Chillanese posted:It's just feinting, really. Yes. quote:I did read some speculation on milling being used to retreat defensively though. You can defend yourself while retreating at range by feinting to get the opponent to adjust and deal with the anticipated strike. To achieve the goal of trapping, which is to stop and deflect their limbs, you'd have to put more energy than just a quick feint.
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May 7, 2017 19:33
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Supposedly the reason why milling is really wild in old timey boxing videos is because it made it harder for someone to grab your wrists and elbows
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May 7, 2017 19:47
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this is how every korean in the ufc actually fights
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May 8, 2017 02:56
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tomorrow is "dislocate my arm and let a dude kick the gently caress out of it" day
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May 8, 2017 03:12
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Fat Twitter Man posted:this is how every korean in the ufc actually fights nice Is there actually any science behind "training your chin"? The only thing I can imagine is gaining the mental toughness to not be afraid and panic when you're rattled but it's not like a training partner is going to go in for the kill like a real opponent would so it's bunk.
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May 8, 2017 03:15
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I've definitely seen people strap weights to their neck and nod their head like a hundred times in an attempt to get a stronger chin and it owns
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May 8, 2017 03:50
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Panic drills are pretty necessary because it's good to know what to do when you're tired and the other person isn't. Drills where everyone beats up on one person is dumb because if you're concussed the fight is over anyway and lol at any drill that trains intangibles like heart, toughness, wisdom or whatever
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May 8, 2017 03:53
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoK1uO49IdU
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May 8, 2017 03:59
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vainman posted:I've definitely seen people strap weights to their neck and nod their head like a hundred times in an attempt to get a stronger chin and it owns isnt that just to strengthen their neck because supposedly neck strength contributes to the ability to take a punch?
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May 8, 2017 04:00
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Milling refers to both feinting and the army tradition of having guys beat the gently caress out of each other to encourage agreession and team building. Whatever that chick was doing was retarded. Nick and Nate both use old timey boxing stuff in their styles and more than a few coaches including Bas and Parillo have referenced pulling out bare knuckle boxing books for some inspiration for mma use. More to do with covers and angles for punches because without the larger gloves a fighters defensive posture is a little more compromised with standard modering boxing covers.
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May 8, 2017 04:24
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Skip My Posts posted:isnt that just to strengthen their neck because supposedly neck strength contributes to the ability to take a punch? this didn't help ellenberger https://www.instagram.com/p/BNJEYVHBSKm/
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May 8, 2017 06:04
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Oh no, I didn't know that knockout could get any sadder or any more darkly funny.
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May 8, 2017 06:16
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Training your neck is cool but I'm pretty sure when a dude rattles your brain around like that your sick traps wont matter bro
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May 8, 2017 10:29
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Actually when death's scythe slashes your souls throat (metaphor only, theres no such thing as a soul obv.) it doesnt matter at all how many calories you counted, which is why jogging is bullshit. Yeah I wanna smoke an unfiltered cigarette while eating a cheeseburger and watching Cindy Crawford's legs.
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May 8, 2017 15:46
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ESPN is reporting that when Nate Diaz turned down the interim 155 fight against Ferguson, he countered with a 165 pound catchweight for no title. Nate has no interest at all in an interim title, and didn't want to cut to 155 for a fight he wasn't that interested in. The UFC didn't bother to respond to his counter.
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May 8, 2017 15:57
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Fartbox posted:Training your neck is cool but I'm pretty sure when a dude rattles your brain around like that your sick traps wont matter bro u mirin?
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May 8, 2017 16:14
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Fartbox posted:Training your neck is cool but I'm pretty sure when a dude rattles your brain around like that your sick traps wont matter bro Your brain rattles less if u got a strong proud neck
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May 8, 2017 16:35
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_XuaYWP8ds
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May 8, 2017 17:33
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BlindSite posted:Whatever that chick was doing was retarded. manyak posted:Theyre doing that except instead of huge dudes its small dudes and theyre hitting at like 30% power She shouldn't just keep her head still and chin up, but the drill with that level of power wasn't retarded.
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May 8, 2017 18:30
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Could we not rekindle that discussion? I didnt watch the video + feel left out
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May 8, 2017 18:33
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nd3_-BOPDw
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May 8, 2017 18:57
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LOL loving shameless product placement 45 seconds in. Dogbrisket fucked around with this message at 19:26 on May 8, 2017 |
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May 8, 2017 19:14
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A rare appearance by Lew Polley, the receipient of 'we are kicking you off the show, is that okay for you?'
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May 8, 2017 19:23
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Dogbrisket posted:LOL loving shameless product placement 45 seconds in. wait til you get a load of this: the stuff written all over the octagon is advertising products
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May 8, 2017 19:37
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My favorite thing about MMA and feinting is Nate Quarry revealing that for most of his professional career he did not know that you could pretend to throw a strike in order to set up other strikes.
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cis autodrag posted:My favorite thing about MMA and feinting is Nate Quarry revealing that for most of his professional career he did not know that you could pretend to throw a strike in order to set up other strikes. I thought that quote was about jabbing, which is somehow even worse?
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Bluedeanie posted:I thought that quote was about jabbing, which is somehow even worse? I think he specifically said that he thought you were supposed to try to land your jabs. The idea of just throwing jabs not intended to land was new to him.
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I think it is a mistake to confine his ignorance to just feints or just jabs.
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