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Darkman Fanpage posted:Oh no. Someone on D&D thinks I'm a bad person. I dunno you've been a pretty bad person to me both in this thread and outside :\
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Darkman Fanpage posted:Oh no. Someone on D&D thinks I'm a bad person. lol Let's put it this way: I care more about the lives of those royal douchbags' falcons than I do for their owners. Maybe if they didn't want to get kidnapped they should have stayed out of southern Iraq. You know I can't help but imagine if you were a Syrian Sunni in Damascus, back when the communal violence was really ratcheting up, I could see you saying something like this while watching one of your neighborhood's Alawite residents get lynched by an angry mob circa 2012: "reminder these are the same Alawites who brutally cracked down on Sunni protesters and retaliated against doctors and nurses that treated protestors injured during the crackdown. So pardon be if I find a little humor in seeing Shabiha douchbags getting what they deserve."
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May 7, 2017 07:08
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Squalid posted:You know I can't help but imagine if you were a Syrian Sunni in Damascus, back when the communal violence was really ratcheting up, I could see you saying something like this while watching one of your neighborhood's Alawite residents get lynched by an angry mob circa 2012: "reminder these are the same Alawites who brutally cracked down on Sunni protesters and retaliated against doctors and nurses that treated protestors injured during the crackdown. So pardon be if I find a little humor in seeing Shabiha douchbags getting what they deserve." Except he didn't even have the country right as he had confused Qatar with Bahrain.
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May 7, 2017 07:18
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http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/04/politics/syria-mosque-march-strike-us-investigation/ We interrupt your regularly scheduled casual anti-Arab racism with some breaking news: The United States has admitted that the mosque they blew up in Idlib was a mosque.
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May 7, 2017 07:20
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Lmao you're all super pissed about me saying I think it's funny that some rich royal guys got kidnapped and then ransomed for half a billion dollars. Try harder to make me feel bad about it because so far you're doing a poo poo job.
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May 7, 2017 07:24
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Al-Saqr posted:I dunno you've been a pretty bad person to me both in this thread and outside :\ You know Al Saqr Darkman Fanpage's constant cheering for collective punishment and communal violence sticks out for me because he doesn't really contribute anything else, but I admit I'm just frustrated at how often it comes up in this thread generally, including when you often edge-up to that particularly ugly precipice. The lust for vengeance is one reason this conflict has become so hopeless.
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May 7, 2017 07:35
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Squalid posted:It is interesting their release coincided with with the evacuation of Fua and Kefraya, which suggests to me Iran was involved as they have a history of using prisoners as political chips and only they could really coordinate such negotiations. It is good they have been released at least, along with the people of Fua and Kefraya who survived the bombing attack, hopefully the Iraqi government hasn't already handed the money over to Kata'ib Hezbollah already and can manage not to lose it off the back of a truck or otherwise. Of course Iran was involved. It was one of their militias who did the kidnapping in the first place. Iraqi nationalists are pissed about it because of how much of a slap in the face it is to Iraq sovereignty. They only found out about the negotiations because they accidentally tripped over the ransom money? Good Lord.
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May 7, 2017 09:57
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Darkman Fanpage may have been a bit callous or bloodthirsty, but acting like he hates Arabs because he thinks royals are pieces of poo poo is weird. The people who really hate Arabs love the royals for oppressing them.
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May 7, 2017 13:39
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Sinteres posted:Darkman Fanpage may have been a bit callous or bloodthirsty, but acting like he hates Arabs because he thinks royals are pieces of poo poo is weird. The people who really hate Arabs love the royals for oppressing them. Only a couple of them were members of the royal family and they were abducted by a Shia terrorist group. He doesn't know a drat thing about any of them but thinks it's just hilarious that a bunch of civilians were kidnapped by a group who's burned people alive just for being Sunni, and then demanded money or else the captives would be murdered. And that money, if ended up passed on to them, will be used to finance their operations and lead to more sectarian violence. The whole thing is a real laugh riot. Almost as funny as when ISIS does it.
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May 7, 2017 15:08
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Their release was also in exchange for the transfer of civilians out of beseiged towns in Syrian so hey if some rich Qataris getting used as political pawns helped save the lives of civilians in a war zone all the better.
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May 7, 2017 15:23
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Volkerball posted:Only a couple of them were members of the royal family and they were abducted by a Shia terrorist group. He doesn't know a drat thing about any of them but thinks it's just hilarious that a bunch of civilians were kidnapped by a group who's burned people alive just for being Sunni, and then demanded money or else the captives would be murdered. And that money, if ended up passed on to them, will be used to finance their operations and lead to more sectarian violence. The whole thing is a real laugh riot. Almost as funny as when ISIS does it. I'm not saying he's right, just that I don't think racial hatred of Arabs is what's informing his perspective, and it's pretty lovely for people to suggest that's what's going on. "gently caress those aristocrats" isn't that unusual a perspective to have, though in this situation it's obviously pretty callous and probably short-sighted.
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May 7, 2017 15:45
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Sinteres posted:I'm not saying he's right, just that I don't think racial hatred of Arabs is what's informing his perspective, and it's pretty lovely for people to suggest that's what's going on. "gently caress those aristocrats" isn't that unusual a perspective to have, though in this situation it's obviously pretty callous and probably short-sighted. Somehow I don't think he'd have a similar view if a bunch of Americans were abducted by ISIS on their vacation.
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May 7, 2017 15:47
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I'll just put my own perspective and say nah, I'd feel exactly the same about a bunch of rich American tourists falconing in Southern Iraq getting picked up and ransomed. I'd hardly wish for their kidnap, but there are far worse tragedies it's hard to feel much sympathy for a bunch of princes.
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May 7, 2017 15:51
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Volkerball posted:Somehow I don't think he'd have a similar view if a bunch of Americans were abducted by ISIS on their vacation. Are you telling me you wouldn't think it was funny if Chelsea Clinton or Eric Trump or that guy who got away with vehicular manslaughter by claiming "affluenza" got kidnapped in the middle east?
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May 7, 2017 15:52
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Volkerball posted:Somehow I don't think he'd have a similar view if a bunch of Americans were abducted by ISIS on their vacation. I would throw a loving party if the Waltons were kidnapped.
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May 7, 2017 16:01
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ChairMaster posted:Are you telling me you wouldn't think it was funny if Chelsea Clinton or Eric Trump or that guy who got away with vehicular manslaughter by claiming "affluenza" got kidnapped in the middle east? If Ethan Couch was in the Middle East, it would be a far better place than where he is right now, which is Texas state prison. Edit: just to keep from derailing, "Affluenza" kid got probation and to go to rehab and stay away from drugs and alcohol. Video of him surfaced him drinking and playing beer pong, violating his probation. His parents, hearing that his probation was being revoked, took him to Mexico to hideout. Mexican authorities found them, deported them, and they were arrested upon arriving to the U.S. Currently, he's serving a 2 year sentence. The law hates it when you mock them. Young Freud fucked around with this message at 16:18 on May 7, 2017 |
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May 7, 2017 16:01
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Volkerball posted:Somehow I don't think he'd have a similar view if a bunch of Americans were abducted by ISIS on their vacation. As the last few posts have shown, this is really the wrong forum to assume people don't want the rich killed regardless of nationality.
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May 7, 2017 16:59
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ChairMaster posted:Are you telling me you wouldn't think it was funny if Chelsea Clinton or Eric Trump or that guy who got away with vehicular manslaughter by claiming "affluenza" got kidnapped in the middle east? Make it a package deal with Martin Shkreli and, say, Walter Palmer.
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May 7, 2017 17:03
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So an Iraqi Shia militia captured a bunch of Qatari and Saudi royals, and used them for leverage to get people to safety in Syria. The hostages were release unharmed thereafter. Shiites, as we know from Volkerball, relentlessly murder and torture all Sunnis who fall into their grasp, totally unlike the Sunni militias in Syria who have never harmed a hair on any Shia head. Likewise, the Qatari and Saudi royals families have never bankrolled any Sunni militias in Syria (or Iraq for that matter either), and even if they had, no Shiite has ever been harmed by them, ever. Volkerball is a man of peace who bears no ill will towards any Shia, and who surely only wishes them all to accept the natural rulership of peacefully Sunnis like him who know what's best. Or else.
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May 7, 2017 17:29
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 The Fua and Kefraya deals aren't something Qatar would have any influence in, and deals over the two cities have been made several times in the past. Safe to say the concession Qatar made was paying an assload of money.
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May 7, 2017 17:58
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Sinteres posted:As the last few posts have shown, this is really the wrong forum to assume people don't want the rich killed regardless of nationality. I'm in favor of killing the rich as long as they are then eaten. Otherwise it's a waste.
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May 7, 2017 22:02
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Yesterday there was a large methane explosion in a mine in northeastern Iran. So far the death toll looks to be around a couple dozen. It's a major disaster by Iranian standards, so Rouhani swung by there as part of his campaigning for re-election next week. Rural Iran is not exactly his base of power, however, and a lot of these guys were still covered in dust from trying to dig out bodies/survivors. The scenes were...tense. He's in the black SUV. https://twitter.com/potkazar/status/861303725671010304 https://twitter.com/potkazar/status/861458770857267200
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May 8, 2017 09:30
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My country is full of retards http://twitter.com/Sargon_of_Akkad/status/861196505478201344
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May 8, 2017 16:56
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I think you'll find he was a clever puppet master, he actually likes people calling him a retard. Did you see how many people thought he was as dumb as his tweet sounded? More fools them. He was only pretending.
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Enjoy posted:My country is full of retards It's alright, we're still fine. Sargon is just the smartest of the idiots. Then again, his gimmicks also involves acting like an idiot. I still honestly don't know what his exact endgame is other than shitposting and having fun with it.
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Uncle Kitchener posted:It's alright, we're still fine. Sargon is just the smartest of the idiots. I keep forgetting that Sargon and the youtube guy with the carefully placed skulls are different people.
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May 8, 2017 19:01
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So add Jimmy Dore to the list of people I won't be listening to any more. He had some "journalist" on talking about how there is no war in Syria just CIA crisis actors and Saudi mercenaries.
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May 8, 2017 19:14
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Volkerball posted:Yesterday there was a large methane explosion in a mine in northeastern Iran. So far the death toll looks to be around a couple dozen. It's a major disaster by Iranian standards, so Rouhani swung by there as part of his campaigning for re-election next week. Rural Iran is not exactly his base of power, however, and a lot of these guys were still covered in dust from trying to dig out bodies/survivors. The scenes were...tense. He's in the black SUV. In an election season too. I'm surprised people in Iran can even get that close to the president, even in a disaster. I figured the ol staged media event would be the preferred option.
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May 8, 2017 19:41
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Volkerball posted:Yesterday there was a large methane explosion in a mine in northeastern Iran. So far the death toll looks to be around a couple dozen. It's a major disaster by Iranian standards, so Rouhani swung by there as part of his campaigning for re-election next week. Rural Iran is not exactly his base of power, however, and a lot of these guys were still covered in dust from trying to dig out bodies/survivors. The scenes were...tense. He's in the black SUV. So those miners are going to end up in jail aren't they... 
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May 8, 2017 22:27
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Eh I'd think not, repression of grieving/improverished workers during an electoral campaign would be bad for the leadership at a time when they want to look their most empathic.
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Plus this is probably a good time to act humble and contrite and unveil some half-baked solution to the miners' problems that your surrogates can trumpet for you.
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May 9, 2017 01:22
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Charliegrs posted:So those miners are going to end up in jail aren't they... Iran is not Saudi Arabia or the US, so they'll be fine.
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3peat posted:Iran is not Saudi Arabia or the US, so they'll be fine. Iran leads the world in executions per capita based on what human rights organizations have been able to put light on around the world. That said, I wouldn't expect a major crackdown on the miners. That would be pretty reckless politically, and Iran is generally more pragmatic than that. The regime definitely isn't going to forget who was involved though. They hold a grudge like no other.
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Uncle Kitchener posted:It's alright, we're still fine. Sargon is just the smartest of the idiots. Making a living in a post-Cameron UK.
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Charliegrs posted:So those miners are going to end up in jail aren't they... My money's on disappeared.
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May 9, 2017 08:25
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So apparently the SDF is walking back that Guardian article calling for a route to the sea, but aren't backing down about Idlib. Meanwhile, the Syrian regime seems to trying to make nice with them and defended them against Turkish accusations that they wanted to make an independent Kurdistan. Strange bedfellows, but it does seem like the regime and Rojava are on the same side for now. I blame the Turks, personally.
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TURKISH JETS CONTINUE AIR RAIDS IN KURDISTAN REGION http://www.nrttv.com/EN/Details.aspx?Jimare=14366 RIP to those slain in these continuous attacks. Erdogan is murderous. I fear this will only continue to get worse.
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WarpedNaba posted:My money's on disappeared. Most likely. I have yet to hear from a friend of mine from Tehran that disappeared years ago. Then again, they might just get a slap on the wrist and harassed a few times. The news is starting to come in from Azadshahr to Gorgan and it sounds bad. Again, the most common response from what I've heard so far is  . Life is improving slightly in Gorgan and Iran as a whole, but still not enough for people to find distractions from these tragedies. One common positive attitude among people is that now more and more people are starting feel disassociated and more distant from the establishment, to the point that even the poverty, peasant and working class are getting tired of the mullas. Khamenei is not getting any younger and change is inevitable. People are willing to welcome even the smallest change at this point.
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Sinteres posted:Trump just approved a plan to arm the SDF, which seems like something we've heard before, so I don't know what exactly differentiates it from previous plans. Erdogan's going to be pissed though. Anti air weaponry, insh'allah https://twitter.com/Hammurabi_News/status/861908526117138432 More US involvement in southern Syria, working with the artists formerly known as The New Syrian Army, Maghaweir Al Thowra Maghaweir Al Thowra have been seriously busy during the month of April 1. April  9. May  It's worth noting that almost this entire southern region, the hamad, is mostly just a combination of steppes and desert, with very few notable points of interests, so progress is about as swift as you can drive until you meet a checkpoint or an IED- which goes both ways, as it's (almost) equally impossible to control for the FSA as it is for ISIS, with the former perhaps having a slight leg up in terms of intel and maybe air support if they're working with Jordan and coalition forces- Interestingly, and apropos of nothing, this puts FSA area of operations within 70 km of Deir Ezzor, which is about half of the distance between Deir and the closest (non-SDF) SAA position.
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