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W.T. Fits
Apr 21, 2010

Ready to Poyozo Dance all over your face.

SKULL.GIF posted:

At least post the link to it, I'm not seeing this anywhere either in the Official Blizzard App Launcher, the website, or the forums.

I had to close the App and restart it after the PTR updated because it was still showing up as Heroes 2.0 Beta.

Shadowlyger posted:

Post a goddamn link you monkey.

OOK! OOK! :byodood:

Edit: Tyrande also got a major overhaul.

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Mind over Matter
Jun 1, 2007
Four to a dollar.



Snipe Master stacks no longer lost from hitting non-heroes. Interesting.

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib
Lucio and Lili both got nerfs, Lucio to his healing (and Heliotropics has been straight up removed) and Lili to her damage.

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


Genji announcer lol

Shadowlyger
Nov 5, 2009

ElvUI super fan at your service!

Ask me any and all questions about UI customization via PM

quote:

Last Laugh (Active)
Cooldown increased from 20 to 30 seconds
Range decreased by 15%
Adjusted functionality:
Activate to remove all roots, slows, and damage over time effects and teleport to the chosen location
After 4 seconds, reduce Alarak’s Health to 1
If Alarak damages 3 enemy Heroes with Basic Abilities within 4 seconds after teleporting, his Health is not reduced

HMMMMM

So you can use Last Laugh as an engage, but only if you're using it to dive into at least three people.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


:siren: D.VA WILL ALSO HAVE AN ANNOUNCER PACK :siren:

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib

Fried Watermelon posted:

Genji announcer lol

It's actually a good choice, Genji's VA does a good job imo and HotS has let him be goofier than Overwatch (it'll help when they fix the pre-match banter bug). D.Va makes sense too.

Poultron
May 26, 2006

It doesn't make me happy if you call me cute, you bastard!
lol @ no nerfs to probius Q

Semper Fudge
Feb 19, 2009

Pitchfork was wrong. (f)lowers of Algerbong is crap.
D.Va's Goliath skin is literally perfect

Edit:

Semper Fudge fucked around with this message at 19:10 on May 8, 2017

Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


Kai Tave posted:

It's actually a good choice, Genji's VA does a good job imo and HotS has let him be goofier than Overwatch (it'll help when they fix the pre-match banter bug). D.Va makes sense too.

Yeah I do like the VA, I just laugh because it's Genji

W.T. Fits
Apr 21, 2010

Ready to Poyozo Dance all over your face.

quote:

Level 20

Celestial Wrath (R)
New functionality:
Enemy Heroes within Starfall have Hunter’s Mark applied to them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-rnxuijVjs

New Tyrande scares me. :ohdear:

Kai Tave
Jul 2, 2012
Fallen Rib
Hopefully they go back and add more announcers from the currently existing stock of characters. Alarak seems like a gimme and I'd pay good virtual money for Johanna.

Mind over Matter
Jun 1, 2007
Four to a dollar.



Tyrande rework looks potentially promising, but a lot seems to be riding on her consistently landing attacks. Her level 20s look loving amazing. Still probably going to suck as a solo support. Anxious to try it out.

Dragongem
Nov 9, 2009

Heroes of the Storm
Goon Tournament Champion

Mind over Matter posted:

Snipe Master stacks no longer lost from hitting non-heroes. Interesting.

As someone who unapologetically goes full snipe nova build this makes me so happy :v:

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


That Lúcio nerf is crushing, cutting his passive healing by 33%. It also has a huge impact on the scaling of the passive healing.

Really dislike the removal of Heliotropics, it was a good out against Butcher and other high-damage melee heroes. Now his 16 talents are all boring buffs to Amp It Up.

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009
I thought D.Va was supposed to be a tank??? :argh:

It would be nice if they stopped making all the warriors bruisers. :(

Polio Vax Scene
Apr 5, 2009



I'm pretty sure she's a tank. Her AA is about as powerful as Tassadar's ticklebeam.

Poultron
May 26, 2006

It doesn't make me happy if you call me cute, you bastard!
goobye Lucio

goobye Li Li

edit: Hello Tyrande????

Polio Vax Scene
Apr 5, 2009



Shadowlyger posted:

HMMMMM

So you can use Last Laugh as an engage, but only if you're using it to dive into at least three people.

I am wondering if you can last laugh, E W + Q a single hero, and that counts?

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


A roughly 15% nerf to Li Li's damage is :effort: and she still needs a talent pass. I think that nerf might be enough to tip the scales back into unpickable again, hard to predict if it'll push her over the precipice or not.

Really excited for that Tyrande rework, she feels much more like an "archer support" hero now. The Uther rework has been amazing and the Tyrande one looks like it'll turn out similarly. Kinda sad to see teamwide invisibility going away, though. She seems like she'll have much fewer problems with mana post-rework than right now where you can dump your mana bar within seconds and still not really accomplish much.

The extreme emphasis on attack speed for Tyrande and number of attacks is reminding me a little bit of Windrunner from Dota 2.

It looks like new Tyrande will be pretty difficult to play well, but a highly skilled one will be able to pull off some crazy poo poo. She's going to be easily the support with the highest skill cap aside from Medivh.

I wish they'd consider adding talents sometimes instead of moving everyone towards three-talents-per-tier. I much prefer having four per tier.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


With these changes to Tyrande I fail to see how she's still labeled as a support. More of a damage-amplifying specialist with a tiny heal.

Poultron
May 26, 2006

It doesn't make me happy if you call me cute, you bastard!
Li Li needs a full rework, not Morales. Morales is just fine in terms of her design, Li Li is a very old hero with a lot of design problems

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


exquisite tea posted:

With these changes to Tyrande I fail to see how she's still labeled as a support. More of a damage-amplifying specialist with a tiny heal.

Tiny? She heals for monstrous amounts when positioned well to get the maximum amount of attacks off. Mark of Mending or Elune's Chosen at 16 is really nutty. I have no idea why Overflowing Light even exists, though, it's so blatantly inferior to the other two talents at 16.

At 4 she can cleanse stuns, increase her healing output, or grant spell armor. This on top of delivering vision and stuns on demand. She's really really good at supporting a team.

Xae
Jan 19, 2005

exquisite tea posted:

With these changes to Tyrande I fail to see how she's still labeled as a support. More of a damage-amplifying specialist with a tiny heal.

I like the changes. Support is more than just healbotting.

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.

New Tyrande talent posted:

Lunar Blaze (E)
Moved from Level 7
New functionality:
!Quest: Every Hero hit by Lunar Flare increases its damage by 3%
Reward: After hitting 10 Heroes, remove the Mana Cost
Reward: After hitting 20 Heroes, increase the range by 40%

That seems scary.

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



exquisite tea posted:

:siren: D.VA WILL ALSO HAVE AN ANNOUNCER PACK :siren:

It's going to be 1600 shards and I am going to want to off myself.

E: Well it's 400 on PTR but so was Brightwing and Abathur, so...

Kyrosiris fucked around with this message at 19:37 on May 8, 2017

Poultron
May 26, 2006

It doesn't make me happy if you call me cute, you bastard!
If you play with the D.va announcer you have some of the worst taste known to man, hope this helps.

Nephzinho
Jan 25, 2008





Tyr and Alarak were already relevant, these reworks both look great. Shame to see Lucio nerfed so hard, especially as he would work really well against D.Va.

signalnoise
Mar 7, 2008

i was told my old av was distracting

Semper Fudge posted:

D.Va's Goliath skin is literally perfect

Edit:



Her Evangelion skin is the best though

Good weeb confirmation in Blizz

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



Kyrosiris posted:

It's going to be 1600 shards and I am going to want to off myself.

Your inner gambling addict posted:

You can just spend :10bux: on loot boxes and you'll get it for sure, plus maybe D.Va herself!

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



Honestly I am thinking about buying the Welcome Bundle if it's affordable. 800 gems would be enough for me to buy the D.va bundle too. :v:

Kashuno
Oct 9, 2012

Where the hell is my SWORD?
Grimey Drawer

Poultron posted:

lol @ no nerfs to probius Q

Why would you nerf the ability that is only used to trigger his W

W.T. Fits
Apr 21, 2010

Ready to Poyozo Dance all over your face.

SKULL.GIF posted:

The extreme emphasis on attack speed for Tyrande and number of attacks is reminding me a little bit of Windrunner from Dota 2.

Ironically, one of her first skins was the Blood Elf Tryande skin, where her name is Tyrande Windrunner. :v:

Musluk
May 23, 2011



Kyrosiris posted:

Honestly I am thinking about buying the Welcome Bundle if it's affordable. 800 gems would be enough for me to buy the D.va bundle too. :v:

:same:

I have all the heroes except Mr Tazdingo, so I'm definitely getting some shards out of that hero-guaranteed chest too.

bamhand
Apr 15, 2010

Kashuno posted:

Why would you nerf the ability that is only used to trigger his W

I see pros taking the Q talent over the W quest at level 1. I assume they know what they're doing. I don't really like Q myself though.

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009

Polio Vax Scene posted:

I'm pretty sure she's a tank.

She has no CC and Blizzard themselves describe her as a bruiser.

Lemon-Lime fucked around with this message at 19:53 on May 8, 2017

Nephzinho
Jan 25, 2008





Yeah, upon further review, it is going to be hard to pick a build for Tyrande. AA and heal spam? Sniper of death? Endless free long range stuns?

Cuntellectual
Aug 6, 2010

Avalerion posted:

What do you folks do for Ragnaros? I've bren going with sulfuras build and try play him like a bruiser but finding he's too squishy for that.

Learn to land Living Meteor and build for that. If the enemy team is melee heavy build focusing on Blast Wave, Tempered Flame gives enormous amounts of shielding if it hits 3-4 people.

W.T. Fits posted:

Ironically, one of her first skins was the Blood Elf Tryande skin, where her name is Tyrande Windrunner. :v:

Well Windrunner was called that because she was Alleria Windrunner. It all comes full circle!

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



D.Va's defense matrix sounds so satisfying. Just *plink plink* tee-hee that tickles.

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Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



BrianBoitano posted:

D.Va's defense matrix sounds so satisfying. Just *plink plink* tee-hee that tickles.

Yeah, all the sound effects of her stuff is really satisfying/accurate to Overwatch.

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