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Hippity Hoppity
Mar 18, 2017

heh bleb bleb bleb

donate to the humane society
Unpopular: The boat section in half life 2 is actually really good
Popular: the game does not hold up after 13 years

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Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


All early FPSes are poo poo. The genre doesn't become playable and not lovely until perfect dark m and half life

I installed a copy of quake 1 i git at quake con in 2007 that i got for watching carmac give his keynote about retarded dork poo poo for 2 hours i couldve been in the BYOC pirating porn and games at LAN network speeds on the dc++ server.

Its loving poo poo. Oh cool run around real fast and click without even aiming oooh gently caress you doom was the same poo poo too

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

Booty Shaker
SILENT MAJORITY
Unpopular does not mean "flat out wrong when seen from any angle", basic hitler.

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
Serious Sam The Second Encounter for Gamecube is one of the greatest games of all time

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


If you like those lovely 2.5d shooters its because you're some over 30 who links it to a happy time in yoyr life. Nostalgia. That poo poo is not actually good dude sorry.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


I only played the original Doom recently. It's more fun to play then a load of more recent full 3d FPS

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


i don't believe you

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

basic hitler posted:

i don't believe you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mn2J4Loe57g

GIANT OUIJA BOARD
Aug 22, 2011

177 Years of Your Dick
All
Night
Non
Stop
Half Life and Half Life 2 are not very good games

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

basic hitler posted:

If you like those lovely 2.5d shooters its because you're some over 30 who links it to a happy time in yoyr life. Nostalgia. That poo poo is not actually good dude sorry.

I know I'm playing fake KGB in another thread, but this poo poo here is gulag-worthy imo

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


"Hurr durr i enjoy some retarded old man game that requires the finesse of a 2 year old to play and looks like a newborn tried to draw the hospital they just were born in with their own poo poo:" - some gen x dweeb

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


let me condescend a bit with a backhanded compliment thank you john carmack and Romero for paving the way for games that don't suck rear end. you really put your best foot forward and inspired your future betters to make games that don't suck, and we owe you a tremendous debt or whatever.

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

Booty Shaker
SILENT MAJORITY
Any thoughts on Lo Wang the Shadow Warrior, or have you spat all your bile for the time being?

I'm sorry good games get you so riled and you never had fun as a kid. Nostalgia is like the best VR there is.

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

basic hitler posted:

"Hurr durr i enjoy some retarded old man game that requires the finesse of a 2 year old to play and looks like a newborn tried to draw the hospital they just were born in with their own poo poo:" - some gen x dweeb

At 26, I am the world's youngest Gen Xer

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

Booty Shaker
SILENT MAJORITY
drat! I was close.

Yeah, I'm not gen x either. I'm just a guy who grew up with Doom.

I AM THE TOILET
Jul 11, 2016

basic hitler posted:

let me condescend a bit with a backhanded compliment thank you john carmack and Romero for paving the way for games that don't suck rear end. you really put your best foot forward and inspired your future betters to make games that don't suck, and we owe you a tremendous debt or whatever.

you misspelled iwata-san and shiggy

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016
Nintendo should have quit making consoles after the N64, their last good console

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider

phasmid posted:

drat! I was close.

Yeah, I'm not gen x either. I'm just a guy who grew up with Doom.

You were!

No idea where the wolfenstein copy came from tbh. My dad was super into the Medal of Honor WWII shooters but I can't imagine him playing it.

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"
alpha centauri is a piece of poo poo game compared to imperialism

phasmid
Jan 16, 2015

Booty Shaker
SILENT MAJORITY

fruit on the bottom posted:

You were!

No idea where the wolfenstein copy came from tbh. My dad was super into the Medal of Honor WWII shooters but I can't imagine him playing it.
My dad brought home stuff from work. As I recall, just about all my friends had fathers who traded floppies at work. They didn't think of it as piracy, it was more like loaning someone a vinyl to them. Heh.

Panzeh posted:

alpha centauri is a piece of poo poo game compared to imperialism
That sounds like praise for this "imperialism" game.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO
Feb 28, 1985


basic hitler posted:

"Hurr durr i enjoy some retarded old man game that requires the finesse of a 2 year old to play and looks like a newborn tried to draw the hospital they just were born in with their own poo poo:" - some gen x dweeb

If it takes no finesse to play, post a video of you speed running through it on hard. Mostly I want to see you handle the map, which makes the majority of modern FPS look like a single corridor.

The shotgun in it is one of the best weapons in any game ever for feel. It doesn't look like a 2017 FPS, no.

E- don't know why I'm sperging it's just an opinion.

GRINDCORE MEGGIDO fucked around with this message at 23:32 on May 8, 2017

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


cool new Polack jokes posted:

Nintendo should have quit making consoles after the N64, their last good console

Agreed.

But Conkers Bad Fur Day was poo poo and unfunny.

Irradiation
Sep 14, 2005

I understand your frustration.
Gamecube had a better library than N64.

Tallgeese
May 11, 2008

MAKE LOVE, NOT WAR


Irradiation posted:

Gamecube had a better library than N64.

...this isn't a fact?

It had F-Zero GX.

ded
Oct 27, 2005

Kooler than Jesus
dark souls is total and complete garbage

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

a bone to pick posted:

Half-Life 1 sucks, don't give me that "it was the best shooter of its time" bullshit, the first DOOM is better than HL1
i saw someone stream hl1 and the final boss looks like the most tedious boss in any fps ever

Snatch Duster
Feb 20, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Video games are not art

spasticColon
Sep 22, 2004

In loving memory of Donald Pleasance
Breath of The Wild is good but not a flawless masterpiece I give it an 8/10.

spasticColon fucked around with this message at 01:29 on May 9, 2017

Harold Stassen
Jan 24, 2016

Snatch Duster posted:

Video games are not art

Most people know this

Caesar Saladin
Aug 15, 2004

i came to poo poo on botw, i think the game shows its cards after about 4 hours and then its all bland

i don't give any fucks about blue puzzle rooms, I hate going into them and they are so easy that i get no satisfaction from them and they're basically the whole game

spasticColon
Sep 22, 2004

In loving memory of Donald Pleasance

Caesar Saladin posted:

i came to poo poo on botw, i think the game shows its cards after about 4 hours and then its all bland

i don't give any fucks about blue puzzle rooms, I hate going into them and they are so easy that i get no satisfaction from them and they're basically the whole game

The beef I have with BOTW is after a while the open world became boring and even repetitious at times to me. I actually liked most of the blue puzzle dungeons I played through.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

ded posted:

dark souls is total and complete garbage

im gald someone came out and finally said it. what a lovely game! memorizing a bunch of gotcha monster placements is not challenging, its just tedious

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


I dont hate doom this much guys. I dont think id software has ever made a game that was worth of the praise it got but believe me i don't give a poo poo if yall like doom or quake or we. just wanted to see how far i could go.

Ive dropped my medical license and I've decided to get into acting and i wanted to really get into the headspace of a dork who hates all those doomheads my age and older.

Legitimaltely i think they're overrated but holy lol i woul need to rethink my life if i was really that mad about people enjoying those boring 2.5d games.

I was playing strategy games on the PC back then, not shooters. Never saw the appeal till UT and the better half life mods hit the store shelves

Jukeboxblues
Jul 29, 2015


Grimey Drawer
Any Rainbow Road map loving sucks and is really boring and dumb. In fact all Mario Kart games suck.

Age of Mythology (not including the expansion) is the greatest single player RTS game ever invented.

All the Mass Effect games are boring as poo poo, all the characters are bland, and the combat is as deep as an inflatable child's pool.

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
Command & Conquer 4 was a really awesome and fun game aside from the fact it was called Command & Conquer 4 and had a rushed level-up system

If you took the same game, reskinned it with Team Fortress 2 characters and Valve released it as a spin-off, it'd probably be a franchise of it's own instead of "that loving terrible C&C game."

GIANT OUIJA BOARD posted:

Half Life and Half Life 2 are not very good games

That's not how you spell Halo

Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 08:27 on May 9, 2017

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Irradiation posted:

Gamecube had a better library than N64.

The N64 controller was a crime against humanity and anyone who likes it should be forced to get an adapter for modern systems and play on it again

Their nostalgic memories for that massive piece of poo poo will shatter like candy glass

Away all Goats
Jul 5, 2005

Goose's rebellion

Blazing Ownager posted:

The N64 controller was a crime against humanity and anyone who likes it should be forced to get an adapter for modern systems and play on it again

Their nostalgic memories for that massive piece of poo poo will shatter like candy glass

It's really good at the one thing it was literally designed for: Play Mario 64

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

basic hitler posted:

If you like those lovely 2.5d shooters its because you're some over 30 who links it to a happy time in yoyr life. Nostalgia. That poo poo is not actually good dude sorry.

See you are thinking it's nostalgia because of the old graphics, but here's the thing.. those of us who love 2.5d shooters don't love them because they are low-tech or 2.5d at all. Like, not at all. That's why like 90% of the Doom conversions on the planet add modern features like mouse look, true 3D, 3d models, lighting effects, and other poo poo.

We love them because they are fast paced, aggressive action with satisfying weapons and satisfying damage. We WANT that kind of gameplay on modern graphics, with modern evolution. But for decades everyone has done regenerating health and pseudo-realism because of Halo and console Call of Duty games. The Doom remake and the latest Wolfenstein game were the first in ages to dip their toes in the water. It's really not nostalgia. Like at all. It's good game play that was just.. abandon. That's why we can pick up 2.5d games we've never played before and have a good time.

PS: One of the reasons the original Doom combat holds up big time is every single enemy is like a chess piece, they all have a purpose and a strategy and when you mix 50 of them in the same room, actual gameplay happens aside from shooting boring soldier dudes from cover that all act the same way. You got some guys charging you to rip your face off, others throwing slow projectiles, some with homing projectiles, a dude that blows you the gently caress up if you don't break LOS, streams of fast projectiles, some actual boring soldier dudes with pistols and chainguns, shotgunners that only do notable damage up close, enemies that spawn more enemies, etc, etc. and that's just vanilla Doom 2. Compare that to the variety you find in 99.99999999% of modern FPS and you can see what I'm talking about.

It's kind of like how they stopped making horror games or survival horror in favor of "modern" action Michael Bay bullshit even though the market never dried up, or how they stopped making compelling space sims even though people are willing to throw thousands of dollars away on JPGs of spaceships in the hopes of having one again. I can't stress enough that nostalgia for the genre is not the main reason it has fans.

- Final piece of evidence, aside from having old rear end graphics, tell me with a straight face this gameplay looks more boring than any FPS coming out in 2017:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSzYliSASKc

Show me a game with that kind of insanity and cutting edge tech and by God, I'll be there

Blazing Ownager fucked around with this message at 08:43 on May 9, 2017

Blazing Ownager
Jun 2, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Away all Goats posted:

It's really good at the one thing it was literally designed for: Play Mario 64

Point and match though I tried to play Goldeneye with some friends at a party, having not played it when it came out, and I've never wanted to attach explosives to a controller and throw it into a furnace as much as that thing. Who the gently caress designs a controller that you can only really use half of it at one time?!

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Phrosphor
Feb 25, 2007

Urbanisation

Descent and Descent 2 are better than the vast majority of 3D shooters despite being made 12 years ago

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