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Pacra posted:Please talk more about this But as everyone says, nothing is new. This move into the cloud, etc is just a return to centralized computing, though now instead of branches connecting to the mother mainframe, it's everyone connecting to mother AWS or Azure. Eventually I'm sure the cloud will fall out of favor and distributed systems will be the new old new old hot thing. And if you process billions of transactions, are you using z/TPF? There's some more cool reading. A stripped-down, highly available, real time OS for processing transactions as fast and as reliably as possible. Can't come close to mainframe uptime. edit: What a lame page snipe. Here's a picture of a 360 and a LADY for fun. 
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I absolutely would NOT trust that guy in the suit to be poking at the mainframe. Escort that c-level away from the pretty blinking lights immediately!
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May 8, 2017 17:24
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Judge Schnoopy posted:I absolutely would NOT trust that guy in the suit to be poking at the mainframe. Don't worry, it's a bait panel.
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May 8, 2017 17:27
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Judge Schnoopy posted:I absolutely would NOT trust that guy in the suit to be poking at the mainframe. Another edit: Remember, IBM is a 106-year-old technology company. Their roots are closer to Standard Oil and railroads than they are to Google or Microsoft. Aunt Beth fucked around with this message at 17:34 on May 8, 2017 |
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May 8, 2017 17:27
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Judge Schnoopy posted:I absolutely would NOT trust that guy in the suit to be poking at the mainframe. It's too late, he's seen the fancy lights and been enthralled by the pretty buttons. There's nothing for it but a carpet and shallow grave now, because he'll just keep wandering back in like a lost puppy. And tell Carol she needs to make sure the loving door is locked when she goes out for a smoke break, because that's how they keep getting in  .
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May 8, 2017 17:28
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Door locks were replaced with keypads, but those drat c-levels insist they shouldn't be locked out of any room at THEIR COMPANY. Suits may have been the norm for IT back in the day, but that guy with no clipboard or manual or even a loving pen looks transient as gently caress. "Let's see what we just spent a million dollars on. Oh this red light looks important, guys should this be green or what?? Hey a button, this should fix the red light problem."
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May 8, 2017 17:43
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Judge Schnoopy posted:Door locks were replaced with keypads, but those drat c-levels insist they shouldn't be locked out of any room at THEIR COMPANY. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12LLJFSBnS4
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May 8, 2017 17:48
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That picture looks to be from IBM in the 70s. At that point, I think the only person not in formal business attire would be the janitor. And I wouldn't even bet on that.
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May 8, 2017 17:49
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Aunt Beth posted:So there's a great little book put out by The Register called A Brief History of Virtualization, that's published on their site as a collection of articles. Here's the one that describes the introduction as virtualization as a concept, if not initially a word, on the S/360. It was introduced as a way to allow for interactivity, time sharing, and obviously a more efficient use of a tremendously expensive system: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/14/brief_history_of_virtualisation_part_2/ See that switch panel (for lack of a better term) behind the lady's left shoulder? My boss from two jobs ago had that on the wall (we worked out of his basement). God I just realized how goony that sounded.
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May 8, 2017 19:05
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Aunt Beth posted:So there's a great little book put out by The Register called A Brief History of Virtualization, that's published on their site as a collection of articles. Here's the one that describes the introduction as virtualization as a concept, if not initially a word, on the S/360. It was introduced as a way to allow for interactivity, time sharing, and obviously a more efficient use of a tremendously expensive system: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/14/brief_history_of_virtualisation_part_2/ z/VM is quite handy for parting out a z box or 4 into little development images. Makes developing for z/OS a bit more tolerable.
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May 8, 2017 19:20
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Aunt Beth posted:Suits were the IBM uniform for everyone until the Gerstner years in the early/mid 90's. Pulling apart a roll-fed production printer? Better not get toner on your white shirt! Sitting at a desk never visiting customers or seeing the light of day? Better shine those shoes! I was this close to taking the job and the guy said "You'll have to wear a suit every day" I told him that didn't make sense as I'd be taking things apart and moving computers/monitors all the time. "I ran wires in a suit back in the 80's..."
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Wilford Cutlery posted:See that switch panel (for lack of a better term) behind the lady's left shoulder? My boss from two jobs ago had that on the wall (we worked out of his basement). 
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carry on then posted:z/VM is quite handy for parting out a z box or 4 into little development images. Makes developing for z/OS a bit more tolerable.
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Aunt Beth posted:So there's a great little book put out by The Register called A Brief History of Virtualization, that's published on their site as a collection of articles. Here's the one that describes the introduction as virtualization as a concept, if not initially a word, on the S/360. It was introduced as a way to allow for interactivity, time sharing, and obviously a more efficient use of a tremendously expensive system: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/07/14/brief_history_of_virtualisation_part_2/ #1, love the articles, will read all of them, #2, love pictures of mainframes with odd 70s/80s bevels, ergonomically insane desk chairs, all-primary-color aesthetic, and that goddamn switch panel Basically, that was a dope post and thank you!
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May 9, 2017 04:36
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Bob Morales posted:Back in 2000 or so I interviewed at a company who ran all their poo poo on AS/400 and used Lotus everything etc. I'd really like to see this. On a slightly different tangent, I feel like our industry has gotten away from being professionals. A whole industry filled with 6-month certs without it being rounded out means we lack a bunch of polishing skills. Wearing a suit I guess is a by product of being a professional or having that mindset as opposed to setting one. I've come around to wearing suits - they make you look nice!
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May 9, 2017 05:05
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larchesdanrew posted:(As an aside, 100% chance that this starts some dumbass debate about standing desks.) Get a desk that does both, debate solved  Bob Morales posted:Back in 2000 or so I interviewed at a company who ran all their poo poo on AS/400 and used Lotus everything etc. "Casual dress code" is a job benefit that's extremely cheap and extremely stupid not to offer as an employer, and as an employee you know if they're going to rules lawyer that poo poo there's probably 800 other little things that are going to piss you off too, so excellent choice Ursine Catastrophe fucked around with this message at 06:52 on May 9, 2017 |
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May 9, 2017 06:50
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There's nothing more unmotivating than HR decreeing next Wednesday is a jeans day for meeting the 80% response goal on the benefits survey. New job thinks I'm out of place if I go into a meeting with the executive director in slacks. Jeans all day every day for IT.
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May 9, 2017 07:04
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Im glad I don't have to wear a suit and tie every day but having an actual business casual dress code with no jeans is a huge step up in professionalism from our competitors.
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May 9, 2017 07:53
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For me, wearing at least smart trousers and a shirt lets me put on work clothes and more importantly take them off at the end of the day. I don't go full on suit but I do have work and non-work clothes, and it helps to be able to act according to what I'm wearing especially when working from home, a privilege I enjoy from time to time.
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May 9, 2017 08:00
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KoRMaK posted:Wearing a suit I guess is a by product of being a professional or having that mindset as opposed to setting one. I've come around to wearing suits - they make you look nice! I'm all for wearing a suit for certain occasions, I'm not gonna wear a suit when I have to take apart old computer, crawl under tables, fix printers or anything else. That's just a way of getting a frequent-flyer discount at your dry cleaner or spend a ridiculous amount of money on new clothes. Now if the company says, "here wear this" and they provide me with a branded, functional attire for field work, like my dad used to have when he worked as an electrician, that's another story. That's a professional attire that takes into account what you actually do and not some boneheaded one "size fits all" rule that just makes people hate suits in general.
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May 9, 2017 08:02
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We have this company that we contract out AV work to and those guys are always in suits. Even when they're running HDMI cables under desks or hanging beamers. It looks ridiculous.
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May 9, 2017 08:09
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The recruiting shop we hired to find us a Linux admin asked if it's ok if he is "the nerdy type". Everyone here agreed that anything else probably wouldn't be a Linux admin 
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May 9, 2017 08:35
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All of our larger offices have dedicated AV Techs and they are provided fitted suits so that they look smart when interacting with the front of house and clients.
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Phrosphor posted:All of our larger offices have dedicated AV Techs and they are provided fitted suits so that they look smart when interacting with the front of house and clients. Do they actually fit? Because the last two places I've worked have provided front desk and security staff with suits and they always either look like they've borrowed their dad's suit or they ARE the dad and they've borrowed their teenage kid's grammar school uniform. Also they're usually the sort of horrendous polyester suit that costs about thirty quid at Asda.
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May 9, 2017 08:48
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Last job had a dresscode of smart shoes, trousers and shirt. Fair enough, sometimes clients visited the office. Then they got branded clothing - bright polyester polos and ill-fitting combat trousers that chaffed if you walked more than a mile in them. They still insisted on formal shoes. They also had a branded car with the livery of Elmer the Elephant. Clients started calling a mate of mine "Mr Tumble" when he drove it.
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May 9, 2017 10:52
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My work has a rule of jeans allowed, but collared shirts and black or brown shoes, no tennis shoes. Casual Fridays mean you can wear short and tennis shoes, but still no T-shirt. Can't complain because you can still dress pretty comfortably in that, plus I get to lol at the guy in implementation who wears huge 48 inch leg JNCOs with bright orange patches just because he technically can.
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May 9, 2017 11:31
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SEKCobra posted:The recruiting shop we hired to find us a Linux admin asked if it's ok if he is "the nerdy type". Everyone here agreed that anything else probably wouldn't be a Linux admin You should mentioned, sure as long as they loving shower on a regular basis.
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May 9, 2017 13:50
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SEKCobra posted:The recruiting shop we hired to find us a Linux admin asked if it's ok if he is "the nerdy type". Everyone here agreed that anything else probably wouldn't be a Linux admin Check if he comes with his own wizard robe or expects one to be provided as part of his workplace attire. That's the most important thing for a Linux admin, isn't it?
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May 9, 2017 13:54
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Check if he comes with his own wizard robe or expects one to be provided as part of his workplace attire. That's the most important thing for a Linux admin, isn't it? Pretty sure the hat is my main priority when I am checking dress code
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May 9, 2017 14:07
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GreenNight posted:You should mentioned, sure as long as they loving shower on a regular basis. I think at this point we are down to being thankful if he has touched a linux system before... I mean, I am skill wise somewhere a bit above Jr. Linux Admin and yet right now I am the Linux admin because no one else even has half a clue. Our old linux admin is here once a week (as a consultant basically) and does whatever.
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I just found out we got approved for our E-Rate funding this year back in February but no one loving told me and it wasn't listed on the USAC website until recently. So, we got our funding approval and neither the Department of Education, the firm handling our filing process, nor the vendor we had lined up for our project felt the need to inform us of this. This is good news, ultimately, but I'm in for a massive shitstorm when the director hears about it 
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May 9, 2017 16:38
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I made the mistake of saying that I did some stuff with linux in school. Now i'm the guy who people occasionally ask to fix issues on a linux server I can barely navigate through vim.
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May 9, 2017 16:42
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Sefal posted:I made the mistake of saying that I did some stuff with linux in school. But does it *pay* "Linux Server" stuff? vvvv: So people who work on Linux Servers work for free? That's awesome! No wonder people use Linux for servers. (I meant linux administration job duties, not the software itself...) Malek fucked around with this message at 17:21 on May 9, 2017 |
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Malek posted:But does it *pay* "Linux Server" stuff? In my experience, Lunix = free, so use that. Also, we're too cheap to actually pay you anything to do it, that's why we want the free thing in the first place.
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"Mandatory suits? By your command..." (Disclaimer: I'm the guy in loud Hawaiian shirts all day every day. Because gently caress you I like 'em.)
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May 9, 2017 17:49
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We don't have a dress code beyond not wearing shorts in winter but our mothership has an office casual dress code that used to include no jeans. Then when they bought us up, the execs had to keep visiting us and would take the chance to work in jeans. Now the mothership's dress code allows jeans.
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Sefal posted:I made the mistake of saying that I did some stuff with linux in school. If they are only asking for basic administration a functional brain along with google skills and a little 'nix familiarity is enough. I always just give the general disclaimer of "I am not an expert at this and if you want it to be really secure and good you need to pay someone who can do that." I honestly don't mind though as it's a useful skillset to have and it gets rusty if you don't use it like all things.
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May 9, 2017 18:10
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I summarize my Linux skills as "I know enough to break things, not enough to fix them."
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:In my experience, Lunix = free, so use that. Also, we're too cheap to actually pay you anything to do it, that's why we want the free thing in the first place. There is a reason Linux admins normally get paid more than Windows admins, you know.
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GnarlyCharlie4u posted:In my experience, Lunix = free, so use that. Also, we're too cheap to actually pay you anything to do it, that's why we want the free thing in the first place. Use them to build resume, get certs, and go work somewhere that will pay.
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