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Perez and the DNC actually maintained their support for Mello. It was NARAL that pointedly refused to endorse him, and Daily Kos withdrew their endorsement. I'm skeptical that NARAL, Daily Kos, or even the freshest of think pieces is what did him in, though
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KRock posted:Perez and the DNC actually maintained their support for Mello. It was NARAL that pointedly refused to endorse him, and Daily Kos withdrew their endorsement. i think naral is the real "villain" here, i guess. they had their agenda, and frankly mello losing probably served it - they want to make the point that dems can't win unless they're pro-choice. i don't think it has anything really to do with bernie, twitter folk aside, it was really about naral flexing their muscles. would mello have won without all the kerfluffle? i think he would have at least done better.
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Concerned Citizen posted:i think naral is the real "villain" here, i guess. they had their agenda, and frankly mello losing probably served it - they want to make the point that dems can't win unless they're pro-choice. i don't think it has anything really to do with bernie, twitter folk aside, it was really about naral flexing their muscles. would mello have won without all the kerfluffle? i think he would have at least done better. a pretty good post for CC alternative reply: ugh, these NARAL bernie bros with their purity tests
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KRock posted:Perez and the DNC actually maintained their support for Mello. It was NARAL that pointedly refused to endorse him, and Daily Kos withdrew their endorsement. can't have helped his dem turnout
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Well I mean the spiteful response of trying to tear down one of Bernie's endorsed candidates after he didn't say the exact right words in endorsing Ossoff certainly didn't do Mello any favors. Like at minimum it was definitely something he didn't need.
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Condiv posted:can't have helped his dem turnout WhiskeyJuvenile posted:i wonder if this post has any salience with respect to the 2016 general election
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Oh Snapple! posted:Well I mean the spiteful response of trying to tear down one of Bernie's endorsed candidates after he didn't say the exact right words in endorsing Ossoff certainly didn't do Mello any favors. Like at minimum it was definitely something he didn't need. I don't really know how much sway Hillary Twitter has in the non-Twitter world but those sure were some fun tweets to read
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loquacius posted:I don't really know how much sway Hillary Twitter has in the non-Twitter world but those sure were some fun tweets to read I mean are we acting like there wasn't rash of stories tearing into Mello to go along with this poo poo, because Condiv already linked to some of them.
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http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2017/05/nh-state-representative-joseph-stallcop-switches-to-libertarian/ Some kid who run totally unopposed in the Dem primary and general for the NH house just switched to the Libertarian Party. That's like the fifth Dem to change party affiliation this year. lol he was Bernie Sanders supporter too. That's he'll of a 180.
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OhFunny posted:http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2017/05/nh-state-representative-joseph-stallcop-switches-to-libertarian/ state dems wont support weed legalization
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OhFunny posted:http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2017/05/nh-state-representative-joseph-stallcop-switches-to-libertarian/ l o l
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OhFunny posted:http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2017/05/nh-state-representative-joseph-stallcop-switches-to-libertarian/ 
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OhFunny posted:http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2017/05/nh-state-representative-joseph-stallcop-switches-to-libertarian/ Not really that's basically par for the course for brogressivism. Free college and weed, but we need to have a Serious Discussion about entitlements.
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and to think that if the state parties actually gave a gently caress and offered a platform the people want (instead of metaphorical crumbs that they compromise away if they even act on it) there'd be less of these embarrassing-assed defections.
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Zikan posted:we found him The One Berned Man....
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:and to think that if the state parties actually gave a gently caress and offered a platform the people want (instead of metaphorical crumbs that they compromise away if they even act on it) there'd be less of these embarrassing-assed defections. lucky that brave man has left the party rather than effect change.
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Concerned Citizen posted:i think naral is the real "villain" here, i guess. they had their agenda, and frankly mello losing probably served it - they want to make the point that dems can't win unless they're pro-choice. i don't think it has anything really to do with bernie, twitter folk aside, it was really about naral flexing their muscles. would mello have won without all the kerfluffle? i think he would have at least done better. i am fairly confident that he would not have won either way, i mean he lost by 6%+ it was a mayoral race, so really he probably lost due to local issues we aren't even hearing about
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logikv9 posted:actually, becoming an actual libertarian is a good thing because [extremely murray rothbard voice] for too long we have restricted the right of parents to leverage what we here at the Rationality Institute call "filial assets" in the free market
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Submarine Sandpaper posted:lucky that brave man has left the party rather than effect change. when you lack the spine to offer solutions in spite of the donor class, you really shouldn't be shocked to find out that the candidate carrying your banner was a piece of poo poo.
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OhFunny posted:http://independentpoliticalreport.com/2017/05/nh-state-representative-joseph-stallcop-switches-to-libertarian/ look at his dumb loving face new hampshire has like 30 state representatives per voter and according to my calculations fully 69% are idiot libertarians "Informed by his academic work and his volunteer experience, his first two legislative priorities will be the opioid crisis, which has hit the state of New Hampshire hard, as well as advocating for the city’s homeless population." lmao yeah libertarianism will surely help the homeless with its "donate to charity and all societal problems will go away" theory
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logikv9 posted:reading some articles it looks like mello's opponent focused on local issues while mello was all about grrrrr trump yeah this is a bad campaign idea if you are running for mayor of a city i mean it's both all hillary twitter's fault and proof that bernie dems cannot win in red states after all, both simultaneously
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Gene Hackman Fan posted:when you lack the spine to offer solutions in spite of the donor class, you really shouldn't be shocked to find out that the candidate carrying your banner was a piece of poo poo. rip bernie weed man
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logikv9 posted:rip bernie weed man it ain't much to ask to finish the dance with the one that asked you. hell, even bernie said "I was elected as an Independent and I will finish this term as an Independent.”
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after performing the revolutionary act of smoking weed on 4/20, Mr. Stallcop (real name) converted to libertarianism it's literally the bitcoin state http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-msb-exemption-new-hampshire-approval/
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