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Seminal Flu posted:Take that righteous attitude and gently caress right off. No, I drat well wont. You are the one who is posting complete crap and you got called out for it. So again I will put it bluntly - learn how to read a real P/L before sprouting the same poo poo short sellers have been trying to pedal. The absolute worse anyone can say about Tesla's promises is that they deliver 1- 3 years later than they think they can. So yes actually, there is every likelihood they will deliver what they have said they will given their track record and they have a very viable business in the middle of a huge expansion.
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:No, I drat well wont. You are the one who is posting complete crap and you got called out for it. So again I will put it bluntly - learn how to read a real P/L before sprouting the same poo poo short sellers have been trying to pedal. You've said a lot of really stupid things over the years, and I've never taken it to a personal name-calling level. I thought you were better than that. I guess I was wrong. 
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Double post for solar chat, I toured a guy's private car collection recently, he got a bunch of standalone solar panels to run his museum and then some, all built at great expense to cat 5 hurricane standards (because space coast). He produces like 15k excess kWh/mo, so he should be sitting pretty, right? Turns out he didn't read the fine print, and he gets charged based on "peak demand". And he doesn't have any kind of battery bank. So basically even if he's producing a net power excess overall, he gets slapped with a monthly bill based on the power he draws when he turns the a/c on on the morning to prepare for tours, when the sun isn't up yet. He of course turned this into a rant about getting screwed by pseudo-governmental utility companies and how solar is a con job, but the lesson I took away was "Read your loving contracts before you sign, dummy". Cool cars, though.
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Taking VC money and using it for making cool cars and science and rockets are good. Hyperloops are dumb and bad.
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ExplodingSims posted:Hyperloops are dumb and bad. But high speed rail is awesome and we are losing to the Chinese so bad with our infrastructure. China has more than 10,000 miles of high speed rail. I had a buddy over there a couple months back and he sent me pictures from a train he was on... with the train's in-car display showing almost 300kph. 
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Seminal Flu posted:Holy gently caress, Tesla is on crack. They just announced pricing for their solar roof shingles... $21 per square FOOT for a 35% solar panel house, they say that homes could go to 70% solar panel, so the price could nearly double. There will still be enough slobbering Elon fanbois that this will still be a viable price.
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Seminal Flu posted:But high speed rail is awesome and we are losing to the Chinese so bad with our infrastructure.  They tend to run them without the safety features installed.
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InitialDave posted:I think Japan is probably still the standard to aim for in terms of how rail travel should work. Route them through major cities and give the rest of the country regular trains?
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Gingerbread House Music posted:Route them through major cities and give the rest of the country regular trains?
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InitialDave posted:Have a cute girl with a little trolley walking between carriages selling cold beer. Can she have an LCD screen on her rear end to satisfy the technological component?
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Enourmo posted:Turns out he didn't read the fine print, and he gets charged based on "peak demand". And he doesn't have any kind of battery bank. So basically even if he's producing a net power excess overall, he gets slapped with a monthly bill based on the power he draws when he turns the a/c on on the morning to prepare for tours, when the sun isn't up yet. Also, some of what Tesla is doing is cool and what not, but they are not Amazon.
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That was 6 years ago... It's not like a high speed demolition derby over there... And that's kinda the point... We're sitting back and mocking and they are putting high speed rail and renewables on the menu.
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InitialDave posted:I think Japan is probably still the standard to aim for in terms of how rail travel should work. Now all we gotta do is pack the entire US population into half of Texas.
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Texas has enough assholes. e: welp guess who has a monitor that decided vertical banding is awesome. At least it's my 2nd monitor (~9 year old 20" Dell) instead of my main one (~5 year old 22" Acer). randomidiot fucked around with this message at 03:33 on May 11, 2017 |
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Real talk on solar, at least it has trickled down enough that I have a few friends living the sailboat life that have managed to turn a few hundred bucks of Chinese solar junk into viable off shore power sources. And they seem to like it from their blog and social media posts. I think anyone who makes their own car company is cool but I foresee a lot more deaths with the whole self driving stuff, it's just not there yet. I don't care enough about Elon or anyone else to comment more except I wish I was rich.
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Rhyno posted:BUT WHAT IF WE DRAIN THE SUN Maybe then we will know peace
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Rhyno posted:BUT WHAT IF WE DRAIN THE SUN I've been burned enough by that fucker over the years to want to burn it back. EAT poo poo HOT SUN.
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Rhyno posted:BUT WHAT IF WE DRAIN THE SUN Maybe it does on Planet Dipshit, hopefully Congress makes sure we don't
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BraveUlysses posted:itt talk about elon musk as if he raped your mum nah dude he's been busy loving actual funding to nasa because libertarians think that space poo poo should be a private venture at this point in humanity's existence
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everdave posted:Real talk on solar, at least it has trickled down enough that I have a few friends living the sailboat life that have managed to turn a few hundred bucks of Chinese solar junk into viable off shore power sources. And they seem to like it from their blog and social media posts. Totally, but the secret to making that work is watching every last milliamp and carefully balancing usage, generation and storage. Meanwhile ashore, I go to the fridge every twenty minutes and to bathe in the cold air and wonder why the selection hasn't changed, and my wife runs every light we own from 30 minutes before dusk until we go to bed. LloydDobler posted:I've been burned enough by that fucker over the years to want to burn it back. 
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funny Star Wars parody posted:nah dude he's been busy loving actual funding to nasa because libertarians think that space poo poo should be a private venture at this point in humanity's existence
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Rhyno posted:gently caress SPACE On the floor.
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Buncha dudes getting worked up on the Steve Jobs of the science-tech sector itt. Unrelated... Mother's Day soon boys. Be ready!
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Gingerbread House Music posted:Route them through major cities and give the rest of the country regular trains? I think that only works really well for Japan because the major cities are pretty much spread across the country in a single line.
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Seminal Flu posted:And that's kinda the point... We're sitting back and mocking and they are putting high speed rail and renewables on the menu. Right, but if a highspeed train crashes in China and your Uncle is killed you will probably get drunk and smoke a cigarette and go to work the next morning (at the highspeed-train railswitch factory). If a highspeed train crashes in the US and your Uncle is killed, you will immediately retain a lawyer(s), create a class-action lawsuit and sue any corporate entity who ever touched that train into oblivion. The Industrial Revolution only happened because lawsuits weren't A Thing at the time.
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Seminal Flu posted:On the floor. more like ON THE CEILING CUZ NO GRAVITY IN SPACE
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funny Star Wars parody posted:I'm mad at the world today so please excuse me (but really, gently caress Musk and the rest of Silicon Valley forever and I look forward to that bubble bursting) Shut up dude. Coming from a guy who openly felates Apple products your comments all sounds pretty loving shallow and stupid. Go for a run with your dog then drink a shower beer.
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Applebees Appetizer posted:Heyyyy, lets see what's going on in the chat thread! Every time I see or hear the name Elon Musk I mentally picutre Mads Mikkelsen.
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The thing is, if we (as a species or as a given country) really wanted to step up space tech stuff, it's not that expensive in big picture terms. I worked it out once and I think the entire Apollo programme, start to finish and adjusted for inflation, cost less than a year of the NHS. So if the US is going to continue to gently caress people on healthcare, you could at least spend the money on something cool like big loving rockets.
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