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Adiabatic
Nov 18, 2007

What have you assholes done now?

CommieGIR posted:

I should really move into doing this, I do Systems Engineering consulting right now, but I have a heavy IT Security background.

Come up here we've got shitloads of work and no good people.

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scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe
This topic is awesome and good. IT work is slogging and dull and I'm looking for a way out.

:buddy:

Adiabatic
Nov 18, 2007

What have you assholes done now?
The best thing is nobody at a manufacturing plant understands any of this poo poo. If you're already a manufacturing engineer, you know their side of it well enough to not sound like a moron. If you also know networking/automation/programming you then become a wizard that spits magic through a keyboard and Makes poo poo Just loving Work.

mariooncrack
Dec 27, 2008
The windows updates last night made my work computer BSOD.

It's been a fun morning.

OBAMNA PHONE
Aug 7, 2002
Ehh I'm just not really interested in manufacturing any more, I think I'm just burned out from not being challenged in this job for so long

Adiabatic
Nov 18, 2007

What have you assholes done now?

CommieGIR posted:

I should really move into doing this, I do Systems Engineering consulting right now, but I have a heavy IT Security background.

Also how much I like a systems engineer is inversely proportional to the amount of times they use the word "holistic" when talking to me. We had a vendor come in last week that used it 18 times (I counted) in a four hour meeting, and I wanted to strangle them.

fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:
some people just have a word that they pick out to sound smart like the guy i knew who would shoehorn in the word copasetic whenever possible 🙆

Adiabatic
Nov 18, 2007

What have you assholes done now?

BraveUlysses posted:

Ehh I'm just not really interested in manufacturing any more, I think I'm just burned out from not being challenged in this job for so long

I mean okay, but if you're looking to get into techy stuff, manufacturing is headed that way and the barrier to entry into the field for tech automation in an industrial setting is much lower than in pure tech where you'll run into 8 billion Tusen Takks that live in a software bubble wholly disconnected from manufacturing/industry. By that I mean you'll be effective and helpful with actual issues much much sooner and have much less competition.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Adiabatic posted:

Also how much I like a systems engineer is inversely proportional to the amount of times they use the word "holistic" when talking to me. We had a vendor come in last week that used it 18 times (I counted) in a four hour meeting, and I wanted to strangle them.

I will not say the word holistic because I will vomit.

Adiabatic
Nov 18, 2007

What have you assholes done now?

CommieGIR posted:

I will not say the word holistic because I will vomit.

I love you.

BigPaddy
Jun 30, 2008

That night we performed the rite and opened the gate.
Halfway through, I went to fix us both a coke float.
By the time I got back, he'd gone insane.
Plus, he'd left the gate open and there was evil everywhere.


IT is a terrible slog and I am glad I got out. Of course now I run a team of devs making a product which doesn't sound too different but it is infinitely better.

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Adiabatic posted:

I love you.

There is a major issue of buzzwords in the System Engineering sectors, bugs the gently caress out of me.

BigPaddy posted:

IT is a terrible slog and I am glad I got out. Of course now I run a team of devs making a product which doesn't sound too different but it is infinitely better.

I'm ready to get into something that's more engineering than being a datacenter janitor.

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



Adiabatic posted:

I mean okay, but if you're looking to get into techy stuff, manufacturing is headed that way and the barrier to entry into the field for tech automation in an industrial setting is much lower than in pure tech where you'll run into 8 billion Tusen Takks that live in a software bubble wholly disconnected from manufacturing/industry. By that I mean you'll be effective and helpful with actual issues much much sooner and have much less competition.

I write automation software though 😞

Fender Anarchist
May 20, 2009

Fender Anarchist

Adiabatic posted:

Also don't let the PID process and time domain / S domain / LaPlace transforms / diffeq scare you. That poo poo's all done with computers now and it's just filling in boxes at this point.


I guess that's why Vibrations and Controls is one class now at my school.

I failed it this semester due to mental health issues. :smith: At least I can retake it over summer, with one of the highest praised professors in the department; I had him for another class and would have passed it easy if it didn't have Vibes as a co-requisite.

Engineering school is hard, guys.

Bajaha
Apr 1, 2011

BajaHAHAHA.



Whatever you do, stay in S-domain. We don't venture into the Z-domain, it's where madness happens.

All hail the mighty PID control loop, may we always keep our operating points on the stable side is the root locus and may our approximation as LTI always be valid.

gimpsuitjones
Mar 27, 2007

What are you lookin at...
I count birds for a living

angryrobots
Mar 31, 2005

Adiabatic posted:


You get around this by having an energy storage system that the renewables are feeding. Less output, but when the death cloud comes you can keep the generation "filtered" by supplying battery power as makeup so you can shuffle some conventional generation on with the 15 minutes you bought yourself.
Energy storage on the utility scale would make even non-renewable generation way more efficient.

The current system is necessarily wasteful by design, to ensure reliability.

Tomarse
Mar 7, 2001

Grr



I had to remove the brake booster from my saab today. Couldnt work out what to undo to remove it. Looked in the Haynes manual:

Haynes Manual posted:

Unscrew the mounting nuts and withdraw the servo unit

gently caress YOU HAYNES!

Ended up removing the servo together with the mounting bracket as one of the servo-bracket nuts is inaccessible. The Swede who designed the bracket was a dick.




Adiabatic posted:

Come up here we've got shitloads of work and no good people.

I would love to do some IT work in control/automation. Give me some work please Mr Adiabetic ;)

meltie
Nov 9, 2003

Not a sodding fridge.

Tomarse posted:

I would love to do some IT work in control/automation. Give me some work please Mr Adiabetic ;)

We're actively hiring for controls engineers and sysadmins, we're in the South Oxon countryside.

We're always on the lookout for people at any level of the stack from linux dabbler and python dev through to PLC engineer and FPGA dev.

If you're a good problem-solver, got some industry or research experience, and are serious, shoot me a PM or a FB message. Open to any of you lot btw.

meltie fucked around with this message at 22:20 on May 11, 2017

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Tomarse posted:

gently caress YOU HAYNES!
My favourite brake servos are the ones where the arrangement of the engine and other stuff in the bay means you can unbolt it in two minutes, but that fucker is never coming out without at least three other major components being removed first.

See also:

VAG Engineer 1: "We can make this engine a non-crossflow design, put the exhaust manifold and turbo immediately below the inlet manifold"

VAG Engineer 2: "Cool, it makes the packaging more compact, and people can easily get at it all"

VAG Engineer 1: "Nah, put it at the back side of the engine bay and get that poo poo rammed up against the firewall, then give a clear foot of space around the front of the engine just to rub it in"

Tomarse
Mar 7, 2001

Grr



meltie posted:

We're actively hiring for controls engineers and sysadmins, we're in the South Oxon countryside.

We're always on the lookout for people at any level of the stack between PLC engineer and FPGA dev through to python dev and linux-brains.

If you're a good problem-solver got some related experience, and are serious, shoot me a PM or a FB message.

Sadly I have no related experience. I just find playing with control and automation stuff interesting and would quite like to move out of little Britain.

I work around educational IT and am just finding it more and more depressing with every school I visit and the way that the system is run and funded is poo poo and only going to get worse.

InitialDave posted:

My favourite brake servos are the ones where the arrangement of the engine and other stuff in the bay means you can unbolt it in two minutes, but that fucker is never coming out without at least three other major components being removed first.

I always thought that they built cars round the heater box, but I now think they generally start with the heaterbox and the brake servo.

They could have taken out all the ballache with this one just by putting a small cut out at the bottom of the bracket so that you could reach the 4th nut without having to take the whole bracket out too.

Tomarse fucked around with this message at 21:07 on May 11, 2017

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
I have used one of those oscillating tools to trim a bracket and casting flash/reinforcement to remove parts from my bus without having to otherwise drop the engine. You look at it and go "why?"

Slung Blade
Jul 11, 2002

IN STEEL WE TRUST

Adiabatic posted:

Get into DCS / SCADA poo poo. There's so much automation occurring in industry. Manufacturing is coming back to America, but the jobs are all logic programming and robit programming and automation.

Repeat after me: Controls Engineer.

Can confirm, working with scada systems is a fun career.

It's definitely better as a customer though.

DJ Commie
Feb 29, 2004

Stupid drivers always breaking car, Gronk fix car...

Metal Geir Skogul posted:

I have used one of those oscillating tools to trim a bracket and casting flash/reinforcement to remove parts from my bus without having to otherwise drop the engine. You look at it and go "why?"

The FNG engineer gets to handle all the packaging work.

Wrar
Sep 9, 2002


Soiled Meat
I'm not an engineer but I'm learning Python because our devs are loving poo poo at support tools and should be fired into the sun. They're 4 years behind where they should be and unless I do something (or someone else) does something my L2 guys have no real tools to solve problems in our area.

Oh well, I can fix this and learn a new skill in the process.

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



i use a lot of python at work and it's pretty nice. it's pretty readable but not using colons and its dependence on whitespace can be annoying

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

gimpsuitjones posted:

I count birds for a living

I babysit adults for a living :hfive:

briefcasefullof
Sep 25, 2004
[This Space for Rent]

Boaz MacPhereson posted:

Mother's Day Pro Tip: If you're gonna get your mom flowers, find a local flower shop to her and call them up directly. If you're lucky, they'll take a CC over the phone and you can just give them a dollar amount and tell them to make something pretty. I've done this several times now and the arrangements always turn out awesome. The florists probably appreciate a chance to get creative and build something they want rather than something out of a book. I get really lucky as my mom lives in a pretty small town so the florist actually knows what she likes and can put something together specifically for her tastes.

DOWN WITH BIG FLOWER.

Seconding this. Always do something similar for my mom and it works out wonderfully. They always make very pretty arrangements for not too much money.

meltie
Nov 9, 2003

Not a sodding fridge.
i'm paid to say 'no' a lot.

Gingerbread House Music
Dec 1, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy
i'm paid to fidn the loving FIVE WAY DELPHI CONNECTOR BURIED UNDER AN UNREMOVABLE SUSPENSION SEAT ON A loving CUB CADET PRO Z100, REEEE

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

Gingerbread House Music posted:

i'm paid to fidn the loving FIVE WAY DELPHI CONNECTOR BURIED UNDER AN UNREMOVABLE SUSPENSION SEAT ON A loving CUB CADET PRO Z100, REEEE

You rang?

meatpimp
May 15, 2004

Psst -- Wanna buy

:) EVERYWHERE :)
some high-quality thread's DESTROYED!

:kheldragar:


:drat:

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)


I think that counts as an orgy.

Elmnt80
Dec 30, 2012


I'm paid to be the rear end in a top hat that won't let you return something because its been in the bed of your truck for 2 months and looks like a pack of dogs tore the packaging apart.

monsterzero
May 12, 2002
-=TOPGUN=-
Boys who love airplanes :respek: Boys who love boys
Lipstick Apathy

Cop Porn Popper posted:

I'm paid to be the rear end in a top hat that won't let you return something because its been in the bed of your truck for 2 months and looks like a pack of dogs tore the packaging apart.

I want to speak to your manager.

Gingerbread House Music
Dec 1, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

Putting a $1500 leaf vac on a $7500 mower is an overly complicated thing. I'm going to blame you, ok?

FAT32 SHAMER
Aug 16, 2012



I'm paid to write android and iOS apps and automation and server backends and a load of other stuff

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

Gingerbread House Music posted:

Putting a $1500 leaf vac on a $7500 mower is an overly complicated thing. I'm going to blame you, ok?

Hey, get off me and then the tractor will stall.

Gingerbread House Music
Dec 1, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

Seat Safety Switch posted:

Hey, get off me and then the tractor will stall.

Um, not if the controls are in the outboard position and i have the parking brake on.

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scuz
Aug 29, 2003

You can't be angry ALL the time!




Fun Shoe
I'm paid to computer janitor.

I mostly sit around all day but the prozac is helping(?).

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