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bunnyofdoom posted:Didn't Anderson slice a finger off while chopping carrots? It was actually a knife fight. it was cutting chicken
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Interesting https://twitter.com/HartnettHockey/status/862730323347599360 Though that seems to be in the context of their usage in the future not necessarily them being traded or bought out https://twitter.com/HartnettHockey/status/862729608353001472
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I'd rather trade Eberle than Nuge. Shooting percentage being off or no he's regressing and he cost too drat much
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May 11, 2017 19:53
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Cody Ceci's only 23.
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May 11, 2017 19:54
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flakeloaf posted:Cody Ceci's only 23. I'll take him over Girardi or Staal because he has a small contract that's over after next season e: I'm pretty sure AV is talking about either draft prospects like Ryan Graves or the guys Gorton signed recently, and hoping at least one of them can step up Kind of worried that means letting Smith walk though
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Stars will take Eberle for a first and a Finnish goaltender. Take your pick, it doesn't matter. You get a pick and cap relief after next season, we get an Eberle to bounce back and play, I dunno, on the third line. Oh, and when The Final Solution is run out of town we'll give you the same package we paid for Seguin. /hf board quality post Cocaine Bear fucked around with this message at 20:01 on May 11, 2017 |
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May 11, 2017 19:58
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A Typical Goon posted:Backstrom is much better and signed to an amazing deal for 4 more seasons. I don't disagree but he's 29 and Kuznetsov is 24. Obviously you want to make moves that are going to benefit both players, but if you have to choose I think at this point it's smarter to rebuild a younger core around Kuzy/Burakovsky
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The Oilers are with the exception of Lucic going to pretty much have bargain basement wingers going forward. Condor, Leon and Nuge are going to be banking them in off of guys like Caggiula, Maroon, Slepyshev, Puljujarvi, Kassian and Khaira for the foreseeable future
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JoelJoel posted:Stars will take Eberle for a first and a Finnish goaltender. Take your pick, it doesn't matter. You get a pick and cap relief after next season, we get an Eberle to bounce back and play, I dunno, on the third line. Canucks Army guys are spitballing on a podcast about taking one of the finnish goalies, not resigning Miller, and asking for Dallas #3 overall in return for... I don't remember. One of the D-men maybe? sounds nuts.
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May 11, 2017 20:03
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Ginette Reno posted:I don't think the Caps should freak out and change a bunch though. As maddening as it is you probably just keep soldiering on with that core and hope the bounces work out eventually. It's not that statistically improbable to have the playoff failures they've had. They're going to have to make changes though due to all of their expiring contracts. Forwards: Kuznetsov: RFA Burakovsky: RFA Oshie: UFA Williams: UFA Connolly: RFA Winnik: UFA Defensemen: Orlov: RFA Schmidt: RFA Alzner: UFA Shattenkirk: UFA Carlson: UFA in 2018 Orpik: SIGNED FOR 2 MORE YEARS AT $5.5M BABY Goalie: Grubauer: RFA They're almost surely going to lose Oshie, Williams, Alzner, and Shattenkirk this season and possibly Carlson next season. And possibly Schmidt or Grubauer in expansion. They have no really significant prospects in the pipeline other than like Samsonov but he's not really at a position of need. Vrana and Bowey were getting healthy scratched in Hershey and those were always thought to be 2 of their best prospects. I still think they have a good young defensive base with Orlov, Niskanen, Schmidt, and Carlson and Holtby *should* be good, but aside from like Kuznetsov and Burakovsky their good forwards are all getting old. They can probably kick the can one or two more times but their window is closing very quickly.
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The Golden Man posted:The Oilers are with the exception of Lucic going to pretty much have bargain basement wingers going forward. Condor, Leon and Nuge are going to be banking them in off of guys like Caggiula, Maroon, Slepyshev, Puljujarvi, Kassian and Khaira for the foreseeable future Don't you forget about Joey Legs!
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JawKnee posted:Canucks Army guys are spitballing on a podcast about taking one of the finnish goalies, not resigning Miller, and asking for Dallas #3 overall in return for... I don't remember. One of the D-men maybe? Lol, a top 3 pick to dump one year worth of salary when we've got 20+ mil to play with. I mean, Nill has been making dumb moves lately but that would be absurd.
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Mind_Taker posted:Vrana and Bowey were getting healthy scratched in Hershey and those were always thought to be 2 of their best prospects. Don't take this to mean anything until next season. Hershey has always been run as an AHL team first, NHL prospects team second. That changes with the new contract that was just signed. (Hershey almost lost their team because of this fact.) The Caps don't own or manage the team, but I think they actually will manage them next year. (Just look at the number of AHL lifers on the team each year.)
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JoelJoel posted:Lol, a top 3 pick to dump one year worth of salary when we've got 20+ mil to play with. I mean, Nill has been making dumb moves lately but that would be absurd. think they were spitballing Tanev, who is a top shutdown d-man in his prime.
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Mind_Taker posted:They're going to have to make changes though due to all of their expiring contracts. Yeah I wish they were in a better position to do what the Penguins do and just load up on cheap young players and fire them out there next to the vets, but their pipeline kind of sucks after all these "win now" decisions the last few seasons. They'll probably be mostly the same but not as good, trailing off in the next couple years. Odds aren't as good to get anywhere, but hey, sometimes you get lucky and a team will trade you a Phil Kessel for peanuts.
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May 11, 2017 20:14
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JawKnee posted:think they were spitballing Tanev, who is a top shutdown d-man in his prime. Ah, missed that bit. I'd gladly do it for the ducks first but a top 3 still seems pretty steep (poo poo draft year or not).
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May 11, 2017 20:18
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^^^ Adam Larsson returned Taylor Hall. A late first round pick in a bad draft year isn't getting you Chris Tanev. That's less than the Canucks paid for Eric Gudbranson. JawKnee posted:think they were spitballing Tanev, who is a top shutdown d-man in his prime. Something structured around Tanev for the 3rd is I guess within the realm of feasibility value wise, but top 5 picks never get traded so it won't happen. Benning should be doing everything he can to pry a 3rd round pick or something out of Dallas in exchange for taking on Niemi's salary. It's an astute rebuilding move that helps both teams and solves our backup problem. As such, it has no chance of happening. ThinkTank fucked around with this message at 20:24 on May 11, 2017 |
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May 11, 2017 20:21
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What the Caps need is a loving team psychologist or something. They need therapy.
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HappyHippo posted:What the Caps need is a loving team psychologist or something. They need therapy. Yeah, Ovi's only 31 and has a ton of grey hair. Dude aged more in 8 years than Obama did.
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ThinkTank posted:^^^ Adam Larsson and Erik Gudbranson were top picks and therefore very good Chris Tanev was undrafted They're going to trade him for Tom Wilson
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May 11, 2017 20:46
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Comparing any hypothetical trade to the hall trade is dumb and you know it. Tanev is a boring, stay at home defenceman who'll put up, what 15 points a year? No one is dumb enough to trade a top 3 pick at that. More to the point, the Stars have enough picks to offer a 3rd or 4th rounder for someone to take one of the finns off their hands, but why bother? They're both off the books after next season and the stars are swimming in cap space.
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JoelJoel posted:Comparing any hypothetical trade to the hall trade is dumb and you know it. Tanev is a boring, stay at home defenceman who'll put up, what 15 points a year? No one is dumb enough to trade a top 3 pick at that. Adam Larsson had 19 points this year and 18 last year in basically full seasons. Chris Tanev had 10 this year playing 53 games and 18 and 20 the years prior playing 70 games or less. So, uh, hmm....
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Here's a neat video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjmGugcxOQw
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Well, yeah, and that Hall trade wasn't in any way one-sided. Any GM would be smart to give up Hall for that return.
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JoelJoel posted:Well, yeah, and that Hall trade wasn't in any way one-sided. Any GM would be smart to give up Hall for that return. Pastrnak for Tanev
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JoelJoel posted:Well, yeah, and that Hall trade wasn't in any way one-sided. Any GM would be smart to give up Hall for that return. Uh okay no one was saying Taylor Hall is what he'll get but, Chris Tanev is gonna cost you more than half of what Eric Gudbranson did. He's one of the top two or three pure shutdown defencemen in the NHL.
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Chris Boyle breaks down Lundqvist's performance. Worse than his career average on tipped shots and cross-ice passes, a bit better on rebounds, otherwise the same. I think part of this can be attributed to terrible defense. http://www.msgnetworks.com/2017/05/11/puck-luck-abandons-rangers-at-the-wrong-time/
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JoelJoel posted:Well, yeah, and that Hall trade wasn't in any way one-sided. Any GM would be smart to give up Hall for that return. Larsson stinks. Just because Edmonton made the playoffs does not make that a good trade. They still would have been way better off keeping TayTay rather than a defenseman who broke even in CF and had 19 points.
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ThinkTank posted:Uh okay no one was saying Taylor Hall is what he'll get but, Chris Tanev is gonna cost you more than half of what Eric Gudbranson did. By pure shutdown do you mean defensemen good at defense and terrible at offense? Because there's plenty of defensemen better at both. edit: for real tho I want the Leafs to trade for Tanev to play with Rielly Technetium fucked around with this message at 21:23 on May 11, 2017 |
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ThinkTank posted:Uh okay no one was saying Taylor Hall is what he'll get but, Chris Tanev is gonna cost you more than half of what Eric Gudbranson did. I probably only watch 3-4 Canucks games a year, but from memory and looking at some numbers, that's a bit of a bold claim. Granted, he probably looks worse on paper because of the poo poo playing around him, but there are plenty of guys that do what he does for shot suppression while also putting up points. Off the top of my head, Ekblad, Stralman, Parayko. Not to mention the likes Karlsson, Letang, Hedman, and like 5 guys in Nashville. Pure shutdown d-man just tells me they play a lot without putting up points. If you're gonna ascribe value, "pure shutdown guy" isn't exactly a selling point for me. Eating minutes is great, but driving offense is how you win games. All that said, I would love Tanev in Dallas, I just don't agree with you guys on his value. Again, that said, the Hall trade happened so there's no ceiling to the stupidity of any given GM. Ginette Reno posted:Larsson stinks. Just because Edmonton made the playoffs does not make that a good trade. They still would have been way better off keeping TayTay rather than a defenseman who broke even in CF and had 19 points. that's my whole point :shh:
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yellowcar posted:Here's a neat video Milwaukee not getting a team makes me sad and has resulted in me hating Chicago sports even more than I did already.
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May 11, 2017 21:23
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yellowcar posted:I would take Eberle at 6M over Shaw at 3.9M. I'd take a bag full of sawdust and sandpaper over Shaw
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May 11, 2017 21:25
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Milwaukee Bar Dice is the name I am giving the future Milwaukee franchise.
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iospace posted:Milwaukee not getting a team makes me sad and has resulted in me hating Chicago sports even more than I did already. Not giving Wisconsin a team is a giant travesty. The Packers/Bears rivalry (when the Bears aren't busy being a poo poo team) is one of the best things in the midwest because the Wisconsin/Illinois rivalry is hilarious and the NHL should do something to cash in on that.
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jason botterill looks about as smart as jim benning but he sounds way better
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Ginette Reno posted:Larsson stinks. Just because Edmonton made the playoffs does not make that a good trade. They still would have been way better off keeping TayTay rather than a defenseman who broke even in CF and had 19 points. Real talk: I bet the Oilers would still be in it if they kept TayTay Oilers are dumb.
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xzzy posted:Not giving Wisconsin a team is a giant travesty. The thing is, the Hawks are the only Chicago team without a Wisconsin rival. They do not want to lose that,which is probably out never happened. Meaning they would likely lose fans to a milwaukee team
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yellowcar posted:Here's a neat video this is a very cool find 
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iospace posted:The thing is, the Hawks are the only Chicago team without a Wisconsin rival. They do not want to lose that,which is probably out never happened. Wait the bulls and Bucks are rivals? 
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