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CBJSprague24 posted:PAS: do you take a 2017 Stanley Cup if it somehow convinces management for whatever inconceivably stupid, albeit somewhat merited, reason to keep MAF and almost certainly lead Vegas to pick Murray? Back to back cups is an easy yes
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kalensc posted:In this hypothetical, wouldn't they trade Murray and expose some other non-Jarry goalie? Or is that not feasible at this juncture, unsure on the rules for minimums per position. Per https://www.capfriendly.com/expansion-draft, Jarry and Maguire are exempt and MAF would have to be protected unless he's bought out/waives, so the non-Jarry goalie would theoretically be Murray unless there were some sort of workaround. CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 15:58 on May 11, 2017 |
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May 11, 2017 15:55
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May 11, 2017 16:14
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I'd probably take a ten year deal for contemporary Rick Nash if it followed back to back NYR cups. More MAF is an easy pill to swallow for that.
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CBJSprague24 posted:Per https://www.capfriendly.com/expansion-draft, Jarry and Maguire are exempt and MAF would have to be protected unless he's bought out/waives, so the non-Jarry goalie would theoretically be Murray unless there were some sort of workaround. They can do some kind of trade where the Penguins give them something else in exchange for not taking Murray, I think?
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May 11, 2017 16:18
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Wamsutta posted:I'd probably take a ten year deal for contemporary Rick Nash if it followed back to back NYR cups. More MAF is an easy pill to swallow for that. Yeah if the Sens win a cup I am ok with another 10 years of terrible Boucher hockey.
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May 11, 2017 16:22
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I'm fine with anyone other than the Ducks. I think Pens vs Preds would be the best final because they're both entertaining to watch.
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May 11, 2017 16:32
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DuhSal posted:I'm fine with anyone other than the Ducks. I think Pens vs Preds would be the best final because they're both entertaining to watch. Agreed. If the Pens have to lose to someone I'd prefer it to be Nashville.
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May 11, 2017 16:34
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CBJSprague24 posted:PAS: do you take a 2017 Stanley Cup if it somehow convinces management for whatever inconceivably stupid, albeit somewhat merited, reason to keep MAF and almost certainly lead Vegas to pick Murray? What a problem to have. I'd take 20 years of the Flyers being absolute poo poo if it meant I'd live to see them win a Cup.
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May 11, 2017 16:50
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Infidel Castro posted:What a problem to have. I'd take 20 years of the Flyers being absolute poo poo if it meant I'd live to see them win a Cup. Oh no I hope we don't win this cup just in case it means management makes a decision that slightly lowers our chances of winning another cup in the future.
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May 11, 2017 17:01
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Would you win WWII if it meant 50 years of dangerous and angry rivalry with the Russians? Your move, Roosevelt.
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May 11, 2017 17:09
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ThinkTank posted:Oh no I hope we don't win this cup just in case it means management makes a decision that slightly lowers our chances of winning another cup in the future. I know ThinkTank, I know...
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May 11, 2017 17:10
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They give out the Cup every year it's not that special. A player like MAF only comes along once in a generation.
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May 11, 2017 17:19
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I think there's zero chance Murray gets picked in the expansion draft. If the Pens can't protect him, then he'll be traded. He's likely the best player available in that draft, and there's no reason they wouldn't want to get that value out of him and lose the next best player. Even with returns for top goalies generally being low, there's a few rebuilding teams who would do well to trade something like a high pick for him. Schneider fetched the 9th overall, Talbot fetched a couple picks, something like that, I guess.
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CBJSprague24 posted:PAS: do you take a 2017 Stanley Cup if it somehow convinces management for whatever inconceivably stupid, albeit somewhat merited, reason to keep MAF and almost certainly lead Vegas to pick Murray? Please tell me this post is not serious. The Penguins have already won the Stanley Cup twice in the MAF era. I'm already so happy that even if they don't win it again this year I can't really bring myself to get angry if they keep MAF and let Vegas have Murray. But more likely they'll keep both and pay Vegas a high pick and/or one of their young forwards not to take Murray. Eric the Mauve fucked around with this message at 20:30 on May 11, 2017 |
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May 11, 2017 17:22
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JawKnee posted:I know ThinkTank, I know... Perhaps on some far distant afternoon, we will look back and reflect on how the years of agony and heartbreak were worth it after all. That the anguish and jealousy weren't for naught. That we weren't the sorry castoffs of a cold and arbitrary universe, but travelers down the path of some grand purpose or design. Its twistings and turnings obscuring its ending, but nonetheless striding purposefully towards a joyous resolution. Or perhaps not.
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May 11, 2017 17:24
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I was a later (still like 16 or 17 years ago...) convert to Ottawa after growing up a Habs fan, and the fact I have memories of watching my team win a championship, even if it wasn't Ottawa, kind of dulls my need to see Ottawa win. That said, if I was a Toronto or Vancouver fan I'd take a decade of miserable hockey for a cup in a heartbeat.
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May 11, 2017 17:38
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Jordan7hm posted:That said, if I was a Toronto or Vancouver fan I'd take a decade of miserable hockey for a cup in a heartbeat. I would happily watch the Canucks finish dead last and pick fourth each year for the rest of my life if I got to see them win one cup.
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May 11, 2017 17:40
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myron cope posted:They can do some kind of trade where the Penguins give them something else in exchange for not taking Murray, I think? Las Vegas gets one player from every team. How they get that player can vary, yes. People are vastly overestimating Fleury's desire to stick around. How is he going to get another contract staying in Pittsburgh as a backup?
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May 11, 2017 17:41
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I am quite pleased that the Ducks won a game 7
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May 11, 2017 17:59
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Zodijackylite posted:I think there's zero chance Murray gets picked in the expansion draft. If the Pens can't protect him, then he'll be traded. He's likely the best player available in that draft, and there's no reason they wouldn't want to get that value out of him and lose the next best player. Even with returns for top goalies generally being low, there's a few rebuilding teams who would do well to trade something like a high pick for him. Schneider fetched the 9th overall, Talbot fetched a couple picks, something like that, I guess. With Fleury's play he probably has some value now as well. Not in the sense of getting assets because goalies always bring back poo poo in return but in the sense that someone might actually want him now. Prior to this playoff run it was a legitimate question as to whether or not a team might want Maf.
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May 11, 2017 18:04
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So....I have somehow won my office bracket already. Go sens.
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May 11, 2017 18:11
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bunnyofdoom posted:So....I have somehow won my office bracket already. RC Cola posted:Go Preds forever Split the difference, go Pens
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May 11, 2017 18:25
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So Sens fans, what do YOU expect is going to happen during this series? Is Karlsson's foot going to need to be amputated? Are the Senators going to pull off a huge upset? Or are you prepared for them to be stomped into the dirt as suggested by all the stat comparisons?
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May 11, 2017 20:17
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Ginette Reno posted:With Fleury's play he probably has some value now as well. Not in the sense of getting assets because goalies always bring back poo poo in return but in the sense that someone might actually want him now. Prior to this playoff run it was a legitimate question as to whether or not a team might want Maf. Fleury's partial NTC can easily block a move to any team that doesn't have a goalie they want to protect. It's more or less up to him whether or not he wants to leave and I don't see why he would.
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May 11, 2017 20:21
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Neitherman posted:So Sens fans, what do YOU expect is going to happen during this series? Is Karlsson's foot going to need to be amputated? Are the Senators going to pull off a huge upset? Or are you prepared for them to be stomped into the dirt as suggested by all the stat comparisons? Not a sens fan (or a pens fan) but the sens did take the season series (2/3, 1OT s/o win)
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May 11, 2017 20:24
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Aphrodite posted:They give out the Cup every year it's not that special. Nah. He comes along every April and disappears in July, kinda like easter candy at Shopper's. Neitherman posted:So Sens fans, what do YOU expect is going to happen during this series? Is Karlsson's foot going to need to be amputated? Are the Senators going to pull off a huge upset? Or are you prepared for them to be stomped into the dirt as suggested by all the stat comparisons? Anderson will either be fantastic or he'll merely be okay and then Condon will be "pretty good for Condon". Either way, those absurd forward lines are going to be forever turning over odd-man rushes from the way 3 guys always seem to fit between 2 and 5. You can't do that with those guys and not expect them to fill your net. Our only hope is MAF forgetting it's the playoffs and turning back into a pumpkin. Or EK remembering that he's Robot Hockey Jesus and winning all by himself.
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Pornographic Memory posted:Phaneuf is a tool but he always comes across as really laughable to me, like he tries really hard to be a tough guy and play guys hard but he always has that stupid look on his face ad constantly gets owned. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v71FqkDMV1c
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May 11, 2017 20:34
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Zodijackylite posted:Fleury's partial NTC can easily block a move to any team that doesn't have a goalie they want to protect. It's more or less up to him whether or not he wants to leave and I don't see why he would. The problem for him is even if he wants to stay they'll just buy him out if he refuses to waive for Vegas or wherever. They aren't gonna let Murray go for nothing or for a crappy return just to keep Maf. MM is too valuable an asset to treat that way and I don't think JR is that dumb. I guess it's possible they change their minds if Maf wins a cup but we'll see.
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flakeloaf posted:Nah. He comes along every April and disappears in July, kinda like easter candy at Shopper's. Only problem is there's only room for one Robot Hockey Jesus and his name is Sidney Crosby.
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May 11, 2017 20:43
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RC Cola posted:Go Preds Fixed for me. So if the Penguins don't make the SCF, the TV ratings are going to be abysmal, aren't they?
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Neitherman posted:So Sens fans, what do YOU expect is going to happen during this series? Is Karlsson's foot going to need to be amputated? Are the Senators going to pull off a huge upset? Or are you prepared for them to be stomped into the dirt as suggested by all the stat comparisons? The Pens have been getting absolutely crushed in possession stats in the postseason and are in the conference finals because of fantastic goaltending and shooting percentages. Ottawa's numbers are significantly better. If MAF is as good as he's been it's going to be tough for Ottawa, but this isn't a one sided contest. Their forwards are better than Ottawa's but their D is definitely worse at the #1 spot and also possibly lower down too. It would be a big upset but it's not out of the realm of possibility at all. It's not like the Pens were lights out during the regular season.
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Wamsutta posted:Preds are far and away the only acceptable cup winners at this point I reckon Yeah! I was so hoping for a Preds/Oilers Western Conference Finals. Oilers' 2006 Stanley Cup run taught me that hockey was loving awesome (and was the last time I had false hope the Sabres could make a Stanley cup final) so it was nice to root for them again. I'm sick of the other three teams, and Preds are just so goddamn entertaining to watch.
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Jordan7hm posted:The Pens have been getting absolutely crushed in possession stats in the postseason and are in the conference finals because of fantastic goaltending and shooting percentages. Ottawa's numbers are significantly better. If MAF is as good as he's been it's going to be tough for Ottawa, but this isn't a one sided contest. The Pens also faced the best team in the conference and the third best team in the conference. That's a far cry from facing Boston and New York. I don't expect the Pens will get crushed as badly at possession moving forward either. Ottawa doesn't have the horses to do the forechecking that Columbus and Washington did. But Ottawa does have some talent, a good goalie, and an absurdly good player in Karlsson. I don't think it will be easy for the Pens. I'm not expecting a pushover series. I'd be pretty surprised if the Pens lost, though. They're much better than Ottawa even without Letang imo.
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May 11, 2017 21:07
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Peter Laviolette is A Good Coach and must be some kind of incredible rear end in a top hat to have gotten fired early in the season by the Hurricanes in favor of Paul Maurice: The Sequel and then by the Flyers in favor of... Craig Berube?
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Eric the Mauve posted:Peter Laviolette is A Good Coach and must be some kind of incredible rear end in a top hat to have gotten fired early in the season by the Hurricanes in favor of Paul Maurice: The Sequel and then by the Flyers in favor of... Craig Berube? This made me realize that Laviolette coached the Canes cup team. I thought that was Maurice, for some reason. Looking at the teams he's had, dude has had pretty good success in the playoffs.
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