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Harrow posted:(Though I think maybe physical attacks were worse than magic in Persona 3? But definitely not in 4, 5, or SMT 3/4/Apocalypse.) phys was about as strong as it always is (outside of no yoshitsune, anyway) in P3. but in the original version of the game a whole bunch of stuff means that magic has legit reasons why you'd want to use it that don't really exist in the other games you mention, not the least of which being that the ultimate end game strat is "cast 9999 damage spell 1-2 times, victory cry, repeat" darealkooky fucked around with this message at 18:02 on May 11, 2017 |
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ROFL Octopus posted:My complaints were pretty much terrible balance, no morality bar so you need a guide to get the only sensible (read: neutral) ending and some demon designs being incredibly lovely and incongruent with the rest of the designs. The designs were made more... not sure of the word, tight? More cohesive? It's still not Kaneko designs, but it all feels like it came from the same artist. They dropped Minotaur for some reason though  Can't comment on balance, I'm the type of rear end in a top hat who bought the grinding DLCs and more or less broke the game in half. That said there's some really neat challenge DLCs that expect you to be super high level with a hand crafted demon team, which is neat. The endings largely come down to making specific choices at specific moments that are super obvious, like in P5. There is a sort of morality mechanic, but it only comes into play if you pick a side that goes against how you've played your character up to that point. Vague endgame spoilers: If you act like a prick all game and pick the "power of friendship" ending, then all your demons get deleted (you keep your compendium though). If you act like a power of friendship shonen action hero all game, and then pick the "gently caress EVERYTHING" ending you lose all your items, which is way harsher.
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May 11, 2017 19:50
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Playing through Persona 3 and I think Fuuka was missing something. Probably would work better with the cross-eye portrait, but I can't find a high quality art of that.
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May 11, 2017 20:14
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Rirse posted:Playing through Persona 3 and I think Fuuka was missing something. Personality
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socialsecurity posted:Should of let you call home at night for Kindness points and maybe some cash. "Yeah mom, I'm doing fine. I'm keeping up with school, yeah. Also our gym teacher turned out to be a physically abusive sexual predator but that turned out fine. Then I almost got sued by an internationally famous artist. Yeah, yeah I'm making plenty of friends. I'm behaving myself. Also I'm dating my teacher." InequalityGodzilla fucked around with this message at 20:48 on May 11, 2017 |
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May 11, 2017 20:42
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Dating the teacher seems kinda iffy to me, not for the usual reasons but because it would feel kind of like blackmail? We all know letting the object of your affection inject mystery chemicals into you so she'll sell you prescription painkillers is the real foundation of a healthy relationship.
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May 11, 2017 20:58
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Dating the teacher seems kinda loving awesome to me, for the usual reasons because she's a wonderful human being and the best. We all know that letting Kawakami be the object of your affection inject mystery chemicals like LOVE and AFFECTION into you so that you will be really successful in life by having the entire night to yourself is the foundation of a healthy relationship in addition to having Takemi's superviagra coursing your veins for fun time.
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May 11, 2017 21:03
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I thought the only true foundation of a healthy relationship was fake dating an alcoholic so she could lie to her boss that she was skipping work to gently caress a minor. Or maybe it was buying into an MLM so you could be taken for a ride by a nihilist.
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May 11, 2017 21:03
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Dating the teacher IS definitely hosed up. Even worse because of the power dynamic since she's YOUR teacher. Literally the only thing that makes it work in the context of the game is that, you, the player, have total agency over the situation with 100% guaranteed no long-term consequences. You're also helping her out of a situation where she's being taken advantage of because of her jobs
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May 11, 2017 21:48
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Josuke Higashikata posted:she's a wonderful human
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May 11, 2017 21:49
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Maybe I should've prefaced that by saying I'm only at Temperance rank 3. If the twist turns out to be she really does have a sick sister, I'll be hella impressed. 
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May 11, 2017 21:50
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The lesson is that you can bang your teacher as long as it is consensual ok
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May 11, 2017 21:57
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Don't date your teacher, doctor, or the random alcoholic at the Gay Bar. I'd be fine they were platonic SL but P5 what have you done?!
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May 11, 2017 21:58
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Scorps posted:The lesson is that you can bang your teacher as long as it is consensual ok the entire reason it is a taboo and illegal in most of the world is that you cannot have a consensual relationship with a minor who you have power over. its bad. Especially when the game opens with a villain who is trying to bang his students.
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May 11, 2017 21:59
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Kawakami was a great teacher and master of fishing, if you enabled your distorted desires through the game, that's on you
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May 11, 2017 22:00
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The infamous teacher loving scene that never happened outside of your weirdo thoughts.
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May 11, 2017 22:01
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probably dont date anyone who is like 9 years older than u when ur 16.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Kawakami was a great teacher and master of fishing, if you enabled your distorted desires through the game, that's on you Basically anybody who dated Kawakami has a Palace.
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May 11, 2017 22:03
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at least kawakami beats the protagonist off in a different way
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spit on my clit posted:at least kawakami beats the protagonist off in a different way I mean I got my evening back after doing that palace so hey.
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May 11, 2017 22:05
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Roobanguy posted:probably dont date anyone who is like 9 years older than u when ur 16. I feel like she's older than that. Unless you're really over the hill as a maid at 25.
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May 11, 2017 22:08
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Date your teacher, date your hot doctor, and date your cute student president. Live out your dreams Joker
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Zore posted:I feel like she's older than that. In Japan women past 25 are called "Christmas Cakes" because no one wants them past the 25th and they'll die alone. Cheery!
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May 11, 2017 22:12
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Saint Freak posted:In Japan women past 25 are called "Christmas Cakes" because no one wants them past the 25th and they'll die alone. Cheery! hahahaha, what the gently caress.
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Zore posted:I feel like she's older than that. I thought Kawakami was in her early 30s so she's probably the oldest woman you can date which is still creepy btw.
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May 11, 2017 22:16
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Zore posted:the entire reason it is a taboo and illegal in most of the world is that you cannot have a consensual relationship with a minor who you have power over. 
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May 11, 2017 22:17
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Saint Freak posted:In Japan women past 25 are called "Christmas Cakes" because no one wants them past the 25th and they'll die alone. Cheery! Japan sounds like A Place To Live.
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May 11, 2017 22:19
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May 11, 2017 22:24
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Date who you like in this video game imo
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May 11, 2017 22:24
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I seriosuly dont understand why people get so bent out of shape about dating kawakami. Sleeping with your hot teacher has got to be one of the most vanilla and common fantasies ever
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May 11, 2017 22:25
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Zore posted:the entire reason it is a taboo and illegal in most of the world is that you cannot have a consensual relationship with a minor who you have power over. I'd definitely argue that Kawakami's on much better ethical grounds than Kamoshida because she's not coercing anybody into sleeping with her. That said, yeah, it's definitely weird. It's more weird that she wants to date Joker than the other way around, admittedly, but it's definitely weird. The thing I keep thinking about is that if Joker was female and Kawakami was male, even if you change nothing else about their relationship dynamics, people would probably find it a lot more uncomfortable. It just makes me think of this South Park scene. The game does try pretty hard to even the power dynamic out between them over the course of the confidant scenes, especially with how much Joker knows about her and how much he does to help her, though I have no idea if that makes it better or not. Zore posted:hahahaha, what the gently caress. Welcome to Japan  Kawakami's probably in her mid-20s, I'd guess.
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Yeah, and if I was Ken I'd be loving stoked that the FeMC wanted to go out with me. Doesn't mean that I, as an adult, can't also recognize it's creepy and bad.
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May 11, 2017 22:30
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The Kawakami haters may have an argument if there were anyone else worth romancing. Alas,
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Harrow posted:I'd definitely argue that Kawakami's on much better ethical grounds than Kamoshida because she's not coercing anybody into sleeping with her. I never got a sense she wanted to date Joker other than she had to work at the maid service. Also, everyone wants to date Joker including the main villain and it doesn't excuse the terrible writing for that situation. Age gap and unequal power dynamics are topics I dislike regardless of gender because of the potential for abuse.
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The Milkman posted:The Kawakami haters may have an argument if there were anyone else worth romancing. Alas, Makoto and Haru. Ann and Hifumi on tier 2. Chihaya as the boring but mostly acceptable older girl. Everyone else is bad/creepy to romance. Now, Kawakami is a good character and the non-romance version of her link is good. Its only really the romance part thats bad. Zore fucked around with this message at 22:58 on May 11, 2017 |
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Piss e: date all the older women imo Motto fucked around with this message at 23:01 on May 11, 2017 |
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Alder posted:I never got a sense she wanted to date Joker other than she had to work at the maid service. Also, everyone wants to date Joker including the main villain and it doesn't excuse the terrible writing for that situation. Age gap and unequal power dynamics are topics I dislike regardless of gender because of the potential for abuse. I mean, if you take the romance route, she definitely falls for Joker. But also, true, everyone wants to date Joker. You're right about the age gap/power dynamic stuff--I was just pointing out that more people would see what's weird about the situation if the genders were reversed. I should clarify that I don't really mind that it's in the game. It's like one of the few times you really can just say "gently caress society's rules" so it's thematically appropriate, if nothing else, and Kawakami is a good character so hey 
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Zore posted:Makoto and Haru. Ann and Hifumi on tier 2. Alternatively, Ryuji's Bro events are entertaining for holidays if you too stressed to date with working p/t, solving murders, studying, exploring palaces, fighting crime, and going to bed early with your cat.
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I don't care if you date the teacher but people jumping through hoops to make it "actually morally normal and good" are being dumb, just admit you like the hot 4 teacher crap without acting like it isn't taboo for a very justifiable reason. And on the other side it's silly to apply real world logic to it since it's a cartoon video game which is not trying to accurately represent real life.
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Saagonsa posted:Yeah, and if I was Ken I'd be loving stoked that the FeMC wanted to go out with me. Doesn't mean that I, as an adult, can't also recognize it's creepy and bad. ken is underage, joker is only "underage"
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