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AlexDeGruven
Jun 29, 2007

Watch me pull my dongle out of this tiny box


Gynovore posted:

How do you buy something that's free? No wait, don't tell me, Microsoft will find a way.

Didn't Ubuntu get in trouble for doing a bunch if tracking/telemetry poo poo themselves a few years ago?

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Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

Ghostlight posted:

It keeps user profile directories and everything stored there, kills the core windows directories like program files and program data, and moves windows to windows.old like an update. Directories that aren't created by a windows install aren't touched providing they are outside of the windows structure that gets nuked - so like c:\porn\ is safe but c:\program files\porn\ isn't.
Yeah, seemed to work.

I hope this kernel SNAFU is gone now and my system's stable again.

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

Ghostlight posted:

It keeps user profile directories and everything stored there, kills the core windows directories like program files and program data, and moves windows to windows.old like an update. Directories that aren't created by a windows install aren't touched providing they are outside of the windows structure that gets nuked - so like c:\porn\ is safe but c:\program files\porn\ isn't.

C:\Temporary files\Faxes\Inbox\0103948901348\Cache\Boring stuff\Oh god please dont look\Porn\

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!
I have all the porn on my NAS, that's not the concern.

Anyway, is there still not an easily reachable option to configure networks public or private? The direct network link to my NAS gets treated as public and as such disables SMB. I mean, why even, since there's no gateway configured. Like what the gently caress, do I have to drop to Powershell once again to fix this?

Double Punctuation
Dec 30, 2009

Ships were made for sinking;
Whiskey made for drinking;
If we were made of cellophane
We'd all get stinking drunk much faster!
It's worth noting that Ubuntu isn't really bringing anything unique to the table. Unity is dead, Mir is dead, their mobile efforts are dead, Upstart is dead, they can't compete with Red Hat for support, they can't compete with Arch for documentation, and they can't compete with SUSE for administration suites. The only thing they have going for them is ease-of-use, and Linux Mint does that better, so they're basically only useful as an upstream for Mint. And since Mint already has LMDE, they could probably switch over to Debian with some effort.

So if Microsoft bought Canonical, the only value they'd be getting out of it would be for WSL, and they probably know it would end up like SUA if they did that.

SUNKOS
Jun 4, 2016


This may be a stupid question with a very simple answer (I really hope this is the case) but I was wondering if someone could tell me how to remove an account from Windows 10?

I have no real experience using the OS since I still run Windows 7 on my computer, but my father has a new PC with Windows 10. I set it up for him without creating a Microsoft account, just a standard user account instead and as such the computer booted straight to the desktop. Since then however, he's somehow created a Microsoft account that uses his Gmail address and it has the standard lock screen on startup that's always asking for a password. He says it's ever since he entered his email address and created a password to watch some free movies on the Store or something, but now he wants it gone and the Microsoft account removed, so it's back to how it was before.

I've looked online and saw tutorials explaining to go into Settings and then Accounts to remove the account, but it's listed as Administrator now and there's no way to remove it. I've tried 'managing' the account to see if I can remove it for him, but it loads up the Microsoft site in the browser and when I enter the email address and password (this is the same combo used to unlock the PC and use it) it says that the password is wrong?

I'm at a loss as to what to do right now and he keeps complaining about it and wanting me to fix it for him, so any advice tips would be appreciated because I have no idea what he's done here and why it's so hard to unlink and remove all of this stuff.

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



Did he add another account or did he just link the earlier account to a Microsoft account? In the former case, you can't delete the last administrator account on the pc, for fairly obvious reasons. Make the/an other account administrator while logged in as the old administrator and delete the offending account logged in as the new administrator. If the latter, just go to settings - accounts while logged in as the offending account and it should show you the option to "sign in with a local account instead".

Note that you can instead add a pin code to make logging in easer, while still having easy access to the store and whatever. There's also some tool from Microsoft to set up an autologon or something.

SUNKOS
Jun 4, 2016


Ah, great. So I can just make a new user account, keep it simple and not tied to any email addresses or anything, then turn it into the administrator account and delete the old one? Thanks ever so much for the help and yeah, I think he turned the original account I setup for him into a Microsoft account by adding his email details, since there aren't two different accounts on the computer, just the one. Then again it's difficult to know what he's actually done, I'm just assuming this is what happened since he said he added his email and everything when logged into the normal account, which must have been upgraded/changed to a Microsoft account when he did so. Still have no idea why the email won't be recognized on the Microsoft account management site, though.

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



SUNKOS posted:

I'm just assuming this is what happened since he said he added his email and everything when logged into the normal account, which must have been upgraded/changed to a Microsoft account when he did so.
The second thing I mentioned, with the "sign in with a local account instead" option, reverses that action. From what you said, I'd think that's the low hassle thing you want then, not the actually deleting.

redeyes
Sep 14, 2002

by Fluffdaddy

Combat Pretzel posted:

I have all the porn on my NAS, that's not the concern.

Anyway, is there still not an easily reachable option to configure networks public or private? The direct network link to my NAS gets treated as public and as such disables SMB. I mean, why even, since there's no gateway configured. Like what the gently caress, do I have to drop to Powershell once again to fix this?

Settings -> Network and Internet -> Ethernet -> Click your adapter/nic -> Make this PC discover able -> On

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

redeyes posted:

Settings -> Network and Internet -> Ethernet -> Click your adapter/nic -> Make this PC discover able -> On
Ya think I'd complain if it were that easy?



The option shows on my other Ethernet card, that's hooked up to the web, but not where I actually want/need it.

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

Combat Pretzel posted:

Ya think I'd complain if it were that easy?



The option shows on my other Ethernet card, that's hooked up to the web, but not where I actually want/need it.

Stupid idea i can't test right now but might work, set a gateway IP on that connection aimed at the NAS. You may have to tweak the route metric to make sure the system doesn't actually try to use it, but I'm pretty sure Windows uses the gateway MAC as its primary method of identifying wired connections. It may be idiotically refusing to play ball on a connection without a gateway.

Khablam
Mar 29, 2012

AlexDeGruven posted:

Didn't Ubuntu get in trouble for doing a bunch if tracking/telemetry poo poo themselves a few years ago?

They were tracking, and injecting amazon (affiliate) results into searches from unity. Basically, provably doing what the tin-foilers think MS might do in the future.
Additionally, since Siri is now in MacOS their TOS basically reads the same as the MS/cortana one, as everything you ask siri to do has to be shared with Apple.

But it's Win10 that still gets the bad press for its optional features.

Combat Pretzel
Jun 23, 2004

No, seriously... what kurds?!

wolrah posted:

Stupid idea i can't test right now but might work, set a gateway IP on that connection aimed at the NAS. You may have to tweak the route metric to make sure the system doesn't actually try to use it, but I'm pretty sure Windows uses the gateway MAC as its primary method of identifying wired connections. It may be idiotically refusing to play ball on a connection without a gateway.
Yeah, I've added a gateway and the option popped up. How stupid is that.

--edit: Regardless of that, my issue of the kernel racking up threads like a motherfucker seems gone. Of course, I have yet to install Adobe Creative Cloud and Solidworks, so I wholeheartedly expect things to go to poo poo again.

CatHorse
Jan 5, 2008

Combat Pretzel posted:

IIRC there was talk of delta updates. Right now it downloads a complete image and installs it.

Yes. Delta download then reconstruct image and install. So less data but more work.

wargames
Mar 16, 2008

official yospos cat censor
Goons I have problem

explorer crash and came back and works fine but that little carrot thing that pops open to show you every program that is running but not on your taskbar isn't there.



Top one is the referance carrot on the left, bottom is mine



How do I re-enable it?

edit:
fixed, I updated graphics and it got fixed somehow.

wargames fucked around with this message at 00:47 on May 4, 2017

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


It stopped for a while, but Windows has gone back to creating a new album of recent pictures every few weeks, except now each one is titled in a different language - the last four have been in Spanish, German, Japanese and what looks like Thai or similar to my untrained eye. What the gently caress is it doing, and how do I get it to stop?

Jan
Feb 27, 2008

The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.
Is it actually possible to have Windows Spotlight (the randomized pictures on lock screen) without having the dumb text over it? Everything I find from searching either suggests disabling Windows Spotlight (durrr) or changing group policies which don't actually seem to achieve this.


e: vvvvv
Ugh, how dumb. If it was just a little blurb in the corner, it wouldn't be so bad, but some of these are just so heavy handed and tacky. No, I don't give a poo poo that flamingos are found all over the world (and on some people's lawns!!).

Jan fucked around with this message at 17:41 on May 8, 2017

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

Nope, you can't disable the text.

astral
Apr 26, 2004

Jan posted:

Is it actually possible to have Windows Spotlight (the randomized pictures on lock screen) without having the dumb text over it? Everything I find from searching either suggests disabling Windows Spotlight (durrr) or changing group policies which don't actually seem to achieve this.


e: vvvvv
Ugh, how dumb. If it was just a little blurb in the corner, it wouldn't be so bad, but some of these are just so heavy handed and tacky. No, I don't give a poo poo that flamingos are found all over the world (and on some people's lawns!!).

It was much better before they added those "tips" to it.

CatHorse
Jan 5, 2008

Jan posted:

Is it actually possible to have Windows Spotlight (the randomized pictures on lock screen) without having the dumb text over it? Everything I find from searching either suggests disabling Windows Spotlight (durrr) or changing group policies which don't actually seem to achieve this.


https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p/dynamic-theme/9nblggh1zbkw

FronzelNeekburm
Jun 1, 2001

STOP, MORTTIME

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

It stopped for a while, but Windows has gone back to creating a new album of recent pictures every few weeks, except now each one is titled in a different language - the last four have been in Spanish, German, Japanese and what looks like Thai or similar to my untrained eye. What the gently caress is it doing, and how do I get it to stop?

It seems like the answer is to remove all photo folders from the Photos app preferences. TechNet forums say automated album creation can't be disabled short of uninstalling the app.

PerrineClostermann
Dec 15, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

FronzelNeekburm posted:

It seems like the answer is to remove all photo folders from the Photos app preferences. TechNet forums say automated album creation can't be disabled short of uninstalling the app.

:psyduck:

Snuffman
May 21, 2004

I wonder if you guys can clear up some encryption confusion with Windows 10 for me.

I know Pro, Edu and Enterprise can all have Bitlocker enabled and that's all well and good. I was looking at a client's surface tablet (surface 4, so I assume it has a TPM chip), and under Settings and About, there's a bit about how "this device is encrypted, it needs a Windows Account to complete the process". I didn't catch what version of Windows 10 the surface was running but I assume Home if only because the client purchased the laptop themselves from retail.

Is this the same thing as Bitlocker? Or is this just EFS?

Snuffman fucked around with this message at 19:58 on May 10, 2017

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



Snuffman posted:

I wonder if you guys can clear up some encryption confusion with Windows 10 for me.

I know Pro, Edu and Enterprise can all have Bitlocker enabled and that's all well and good. I was looking at a client's surface tablet (surface 4, so I assume it has a TPM chip), and under Settings and About, there's a bit about how "this device is encrypted, it needs a Windows Account to complete the process". I didn't catch what version of Windows 10 the surface was running but I assumeHome if only because the client purchased the laptop themselves from retail.

Is this the same thing as Bitlocker? Or is this just EFS?
Surface Pros come with the Pro windows edition.

Snuffman
May 21, 2004

Flipperwaldt posted:

Surface Pros come with the Pro windows edition.

Ah, thanks.

So if I get the client to convert their local account to a Microsoft account, enabling this option is just as good as Bitlocker? Outside Bitlocker not forcing me to hand the recovery key over to Microsoft for "safekeeping".

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



It is Bitlocker as far as I understand. I just checked and my Surface Pro 4 has Bitlocker enabled and it would have been like that out of the box.

Outside of that I can't say I know or understand the further implications.

cat doter
Jul 27, 2006



gonna need more cheese...australia has a lot of crackers
For some reason ever since the "creators update" I've had two random shutdowns, which is extremely odd. It's entirely new behaviour, with the first random shutdown happening not even an hour after the update finished installing. I tried to run a game, it just hanged for a while, then shut down. It was fine for a few days, then I got another a few hours ago, which happened after I paused a youtube video. It's very bizarre.

Anyone know if this is like a known issue with a fix? Or do I have to roll back?

Phoenixan
Jan 16, 2010

Just Keep Cool-idge

Snuffman posted:

Ah, thanks.

So if I get the client to convert their local account to a Microsoft account, enabling this option is just as good as Bitlocker? Outside Bitlocker not forcing me to hand the recovery key over to Microsoft for "safekeeping".
Just select backing up the key to a usb & it won't put the bitlocker key into your online account if that's what you're concerned with.

FronzelNeekburm posted:

It seems like the answer is to remove all photo folders from the Photos app preferences. TechNet forums say automated album creation can't be disabled short of uninstalling the app.
The biggest annoyance about the automatic album creation is the notifications it pops up with, which I switched off.

Still don't know why they didn't include a toggle for it though. Also sucks that they still don't even allow basic features such as the ability to change the background to 50% gray (I deal with transparent pngs a lot and they just show up invisible too many times), and that colors distort on cmyk images, and that images are blurred for no reason, and that the photos app fucks up completely on screens with higher color gamuts. The photos app is a massive piece of poo poo.

Phoenixan fucked around with this message at 01:00 on May 11, 2017

Double Punctuation
Dec 30, 2009

Ships were made for sinking;
Whiskey made for drinking;
If we were made of cellophane
We'd all get stinking drunk much faster!
Device Encryption is BitLocker with the key stored with a Microsoft account. If you don't want to risk the :nsacloud:, you can switch to normal BitLocker. You can set that to use TPM, a USB drive, or both, plus a hand-printed or saved recovery key. TPM by itself is the bare minimum and doesn't involve any user accounts; as long as you don't touch UEFI setup or the bootloader, it will decrypt automatically.

man nurse
Feb 18, 2014


So Windows Update is hosed up for me. It gets stuck at Downloading 0% anytime I check for updates. Running the troubleshooting tool does not seem to help. What do?

WattsvilleBlues
Jan 25, 2005

Every demon wants his pound of flesh

man nurse posted:

So Windows Update is hosed up for me. It gets stuck at Downloading 0% anytime I check for updates. Running the troubleshooting tool does not seem to help. What do?

I take it you're on Windows 10? Try the Windows Update MiniTool, it's quite handy.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/windows_update_minitool.html

drunken officeparty
Aug 23, 2006

I put my computer on sleep at night. It woke me up at like 3 am by blasting on to full brightness instantly all by itself. I figured it was updating, cursed microsoft, and went back to sleep. Nope. It woke itself and me up in the middle of the night to tell me that it will update itself outside active hours. What the gently caress.

Khablam
Mar 29, 2012

The chance of you not knowing about the upcoming update would seem to be about zero.
Notification working as intended.

Jenny Agutter
Mar 18, 2009

Creators update ended up in an unrecoverable state. Cant boot into Windows. Is there really no way to repair Windows with an installation USB without losing all of my installed programs?

redeyes
Sep 14, 2002

by Fluffdaddy

Jenny Agutter posted:

Creators update ended up in an unrecoverable state. Cant boot into Windows. Is there really no way to repair Windows with an installation USB without losing all of my installed programs?

Nope and it pisses me off greatly. That went away with Vista and never came back.

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Jenny Agutter posted:

Creators update ended up in an unrecoverable state. Cant boot into Windows. Is there really no way to repair Windows with an installation USB without losing all of my installed programs?

Uh, use the same process as in 8 - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12415/windows-10-recovery-options

When it asks you to choose your options, when booting from a dedicated recovery drive or the Windows 10 install USB, click Troubleshoot and then the Advanced Options. Try to use one of the options available like the command prompt, system restore, or automated boot repair - just as you would with Windows 7.


redeyes posted:

Nope and it pisses me off greatly. That went away with Vista and never came back.

This is 100% false and frankly I don't understand how you've somehow managed to miss how to get to these options in 7, 8, and 10. Windows 7 even does it in exactly the same way as Windows Vista!

Jan
Feb 27, 2008

The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

cat doter posted:

For some reason ever since the "creators update" I've had two random shutdowns, which is extremely odd. It's entirely new behaviour, with the first random shutdown happening not even an hour after the update finished installing. I tried to run a game, it just hanged for a while, then shut down. It was fine for a few days, then I got another a few hours ago, which happened after I paused a youtube video. It's very bizarre.

Sounds like it could be a STOP screen. Have you checked the Event Viewer?

Jenny Agutter
Mar 18, 2009

fishmech posted:

Uh, use the same process as in 8 - https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/12415/windows-10-recovery-options

When it asks you to choose your options, when booting from a dedicated recovery drive or the Windows 10 install USB, click Troubleshoot and then the Advanced Options. Try to use one of the options available like the command prompt, system restore, or automated boot repair - just as you would with Windows 7.

Yeah I know about that fishmech. System restore couldn't find any restore points, automated boot repair was unable to repair, and running sfc and chkdsk from the command prompt didn't do anything. It was unrecoverable. I ended up doing a reinstall. It wasn't too much trouble to get everything back in place but this same thing happened with anniversary update and I'm mad, mad at Microsoft

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cat doter
Jul 27, 2006



gonna need more cheese...australia has a lot of crackers

Jan posted:

Sounds like it could be a STOP screen. Have you checked the Event Viewer?

There's 2 errors, both which just say "The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly."

Usually this sort of behaviour might be a dying power supply, but it's strange that it started happening immediately after this creators update, and I can run really system intensive stuff and nothing happens. The shut downs appear to be random.

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