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Freudian Slip posted:Is the strike just for this week? I haven't visited any Fairfax newspapers while the strike has been on and I really miss reading it at work. It ended on Tuesday.
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The ABC posted:Prime Minister Malcom Turnbull says drug testing welfare recipients and potentially managing their spending is "a policy based on love". If you loved them enough that you wanted them off drugs maybe put money into programmes that are effective at doing just that instead of pissing it up against the wall with your hate boner stunt bullshit.
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Bogan King posted:Latham has a cookbook coming out. I thought political advice was going to be the last thing I wanted to take from him but it turns out I was wrong. The Anarchocapitalists cookbook?
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Nah, you see it's like when your beloved wife gets a bit out of line and you have to whack her.
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Bogan King posted:If you loved them enough that you wanted them off drugs maybe put money into programmes that are effective at doing just that instead of pissing it up against the wall with your hate boner stunt bullshit. Yeah holy poo poo stripping financial support from people struggling with drug addiction is a pure recipe for suicide. gently caress you Turnbull you piece of poo poo, you could sell this as fairness, or smell test or any other bullshit rationale but selling this as if it is loving helping people is beyond the loving pale.
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JBP posted:It ended on Tuesday. Thanks!
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JBP posted:She's a bad freelancer that needs to break a picket to sell work. House is always scab
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Libs are much better at dog whistles than Labor. Compare: -Framing drug tests for poors as an act of compassion to prevent drug abuse -Framing offshore detention as an act of compassion to prevent drownings To "I'm Bill Shorten and I want jobs to be for Australians only and here's some white people to illustrate what an Australian is."
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You can tell the strike is over because House is Haunt has been updated
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Bogan King posted:I know this is the age of equality and you shouldn't mansplain stuff to women but maybe someone should quietly whisper in Farrelly's ear that she should be digging up. The picture of the guy smirking and pointing to his forehead is below this, right?
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In a previous job I got to do onsite tech support at her house and I can honestly say she is a crazy person.
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Bogan King posted:If you loved them enough that you wanted them off drugs maybe put money into programmes that are effective at doing just that instead of pissing it up against the wall with your hate boner stunt bullshit.
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iajanus posted:In a previous job I got to do onsite tech support at her house and I can honestly say she is a crazy person. I can confirm
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AMWU have nailed Farrelly's latest bit https://twitter.com/theamwu/status/862881551138250752
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Cartoon posted:The Department of Social Security will also be renamed the Ministry of Love. 
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'They’ve lost the lot': how the Australian mining boom blew up in property owners' faces
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GorgeOnMySyphilis posted:'They’ve lost the lot': how the Australian mining boom blew up in property owners' faces Like I know it's wrong to gloat about other people's suffering and all that - But knowing that this demographic almost exclusively voted liberal in 2013 AND 2016, reading this I can't help be a little  
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GorgeOnMySyphilis posted:'They’ve lost the lot': how the Australian mining boom blew up in property owners' faces My tiny violin shares are soaring.
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How do I convince people that drug testing welfare recipients is hosed up? It's amazing the amount of people that are for it, and I'm poo poo at arguing. Can auspol give me some talking points?Don Dongington posted:I don't know how many of you have been on a bargaining team, but it's pretty loving clear from day 1 that unless you're rocking huge densities, (>30%, which is AF rare outside of pockets of the public sector, construction, maybe maritime?) , the employer holds all of the cards. I'm in a union for the first time in my life (no union in previous workplace) and we're rocking membership somewhere like 90%+ and I cannot for the life of me think of my anyone WOULDN'T be in their union. It's the only way for the workers to not get hosed. "Yeah, nah what have unions ever fuckin' done for me" *gets paid a fair wage with 4 weeks annual leave a year and public holidays* "They're all hosed aye" We must smash the state, seize the means of production etc, etc. JBP posted:The 17% interest thing is a loving load of poo poo because when people bought that debt ... they paid off loans in record time and had a fuckload of equity available. This is amazing and I love it. Dude McAwesome fucked around with this message at 07:43 on May 12, 2017 |
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Ask them how they think drug testing welfare recipients will make the world a better place.
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Dude McAwesome posted:How do I convince people that drug testing welfare recipients is hosed up? It's amazing the amount of people that are for it, and I'm poo poo at arguing. Can auspol give me some talking points? Tell them it will cost a fortune in screening, testing and implementing the restricted card and that poor people will still effectively have the same amount of money to use.
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It is a colossal waste of money that will catch basically no one given that drugs are expensive and no one on welfare could reasonably afford them. The whole policy is the government wasting millions on purely political posturing.
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Would you prefer our addicts to be doing dirt cheap meth or something way worse and even cheaper? Actually forcing people to sell themselves for a hit is better than spending taxpayer money on keeping our most vulnerable even slightly useful to society. WhiskeyWhiskers fucked around with this message at 08:01 on May 12, 2017 |
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Would you prefer our addicts to be doing dirt cheap meth or something way worse and even cheaper?
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I too am looking forward to a time in the near future when the only hope for society's most vulnerable is to roll around in a bathtub full of cheap internet-sourced pachyderm tranquiliser
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I highly doubt it would even punish the poor that well. If this thing does actually gain traction, it would be the easiest thing in the world to sell it for cash. $1 ~ 85c on a basics card etc. e. monetarily, for making people feel like they are poo poo, it's probably not bad.
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Zenithe posted:I highly doubt it would even punish the poor that well. If this thing does actually gain traction, it would be the easiest thing in the world to sell it for cash. $1 ~ 85c on a basics card etc. It's not about punishing the poor. That's just a bonus. The entire point is to give money to a mate's card processing company with a sweet long term government contract. You know. Good old fashioned corruption. That's why all the costs are commercial in confidence.
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Dude McAwesome posted:How do I convince people that drug testing welfare recipients is hosed up? It's amazing the amount of people that are for it, and I'm poo poo at arguing. Can auspol give me some talking points? This employment provider says taking away income causes people to remove themselves from aid
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Ask them how far they want to punish drug users. Should they be imprisoned for using or merely left destitute? Are they irredeemable? Why was cocaine excluded from the tests? Edit: also if we should arrest them for positive tests and if not should the drugs be legal and if legal why punish them for taking a substance they think should be legal
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Ask them why they think it is a good policy. Save money? It will absolutely cost more to implement than any possible savings. Help people? It won't. The rehab option will be short term and doesn't remove the drivers to substance abuse, eg poverty, joblessness, homelessness. Punishment? Yeah, I thought so. Kick 'em whilst they're down. Drive people at the bottom of the heap to further depths of disadvantage and desperation. Also, alcohol is consistently one of the most abused and harm inducing drugs. But we wouldn't mess with that. (Please dont mess with booze, it's keeping me happy). Licence to blunt? :scoff vs scoff:
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Mandatory weekly drug tests to claim any deductions on your tax return. If you fail a test and own investment properties they are seized by the state and used as social housing. Random breath tests on the streets of capital cities to ensure people aren't publicly intoxicated. Same penalties as for drugs.
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Capt.Whorebags posted:Ask them why they think it is a good policy. Good way to drive addicts further to things like burglary and robbery too, more poor in the jails! I shouldn't have to look at them on the streets, their visage offends me.
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